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[DiebytheSword]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.

Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.

That is Mass Effect 3.

Not to be stupid, but what people are concerned about is that the injured quarterback in some people's game might be dead, and yeah, that's pretty important going into the superbowl.  By that same token, I respect you guys enough to know that you'll do something about dead quarterbacks or romances with the cheerleaders, franchise changes in week 4-8 (you know, where our star quarterback played for another team) even if your overhyping the superbowl and not back advertising for a game that happened in week 6.

Its seems to me that the communtiy is overreacting, but you can't expect them not to for that very same reason.  Its how your selling it. (not you personally, but the team you represent)

[ObserverStatus]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

It was all great until they said ME1 and ME2 were "a preamble" to ME3. Oh wait, that was the entire article.

I really don't understand why everyone seems to have a problem with the "preamble" part.  What I took out of it was that Mass Effect 3 will be so much grater in scope and depth that it will dwarf ME1 and 2 in every conceivable way.  Bioware may have been exaggerating a bit, but I don't see any way this could be negative.

[Someone With Mass]

I see that IGN is reaching for a new level of retardation.

[Ghost Lightning]

I love how everyone is making it sound like ME1 and ME2 were crap games just cause Bioware is saying that they wanna have ME3 improve on them XD

Modifié par Ghost Lightning, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:18 .

[Selene Moonsong]

*sigh* You didn't need to play ME to play ME 2, either. However, you do miss out on a lot and is only partially improved through use of the Interactive Backstory Comic DLC, which only highlights the more important events.

[onelifecrisis]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.

Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.

That is Mass Effect 3.

Oh. No I don't follow (American?) Football. Thanks for the explanation, and I now see what you meant by "out of context".

[J0HNL3I]

another amazing article from IGNorant

[Ricinator]

basicly i get "we shot the RPG story in the face, here is some multiplayer and polished combat for people who never played the series can enjoy..." i might just cancel my pre-order.

[crimzontearz]

this is almost worse than "think like a general fight like a spartan" or "press a button and something awesome happens"

[alex90c]

I kinda feel sorry for the people who jump in to the ME franchise at ME3, while waiting for the game to come out blows a giant pair of testicles, people who play ME3 first won't have that same level of anticipation and they won't really feel the Reapers are so mysterious when they will learn pretty much everything by playing the last game of the trilogy, whereas if you started at say ME1 you've had time to think of completely absurd Reaper theories and all the other weird stuff that goes around BSN.

[Thompson family]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

It was all great until they said ME1 and ME2 were "a preamble" to ME3. Oh wait, that was the entire article.

Correct me if I'm wrong: At the end of ME1, does Shep not say "The Reapers are still out there, and I'm going to find a way to stop them."

At the end of ME2, we see an armada of Reapers heading to the Milky Way Galaxy.

While I just criticized the particular wording quoted by IGN, I will point out that the unfortunate wording does not change the fact that the statement itself is true. ME1 and ME2 ARE preambles to the Reaper Invasion.

preamble |ˈprēˌambəl|
noun
a preliminary or preparatory statement; an introduction

[aridor1570]

Ricinator wrote...

basicly i get "we shot the RPG story in the face, here is some multiplayer and polished combat for people who never played the series can enjoy..." i might just cancel my pre-order.

Look who's jumping to conclusions.

[DarkDragon777]

It just amazes me how Bioware seems to purposely release stupid statements that get even dumber every time.

[Chris Priestly]

onelifecrisis wrote...
I'm not "trying" to do anything. The guy said what he said, I just quoted him. I'm not putting words in his mouth, nor am I taking any out, unless you think that he meant something other than ME1&2 when he referred to "the regular season"? In which case please tell me what he meant.

Yes you are. You are putting words in Aaryn's mouth in your post as he never said what you quoted him as saying. "Who cares what happened in [ME1&2]? " Hewas making a football analogy what you are deliberately misquoteing and misinterpreting.

I am done speaking with you as you are deliberately trying to distort the meaning and claiming you are not. You can tell you are because you couldn't post the actual quote and keep your take on teh meaning to be true.

[Reever]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.

Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.

That is Mass Effect 3.

Well, if he meant it like that, then it´s not that bad.

Still, for the overly sensible people here, it´s the ultimate insult

[Ricinator]

aridor1570 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

basicly i get "we shot the RPG story in the face, here is some multiplayer and polished combat for people who never played the series can enjoy..." i might just cancel my pre-order.

Look who's jumping to conclusions.

not that far of a leap when presented with all info so far

[onelifecrisis]

Chris Priestly wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...
I'm not "trying" to do anything. The guy said what he said, I just quoted him. I'm not putting words in his mouth, nor am I taking any out, unless you think that he meant something other than ME1&2 when he referred to "the regular season"? In which case please tell me what he meant.

Yes you are. You are putting words in Aaryn's mouth in your post as he never said what you quoted him as saying. "Who cares what happened in [ME1&2]? " Hewas making a football analogy what you are deliberately misquoteing and misinterpreting.

I am done speaking with you as you are deliberately trying to distort the meaning and claiming you are not. You can tell you are because you couldn't post the actual quote and keep your take on teh meaning to be true.

I wasn't (see my previous post). I just misunderstood the American Football reference (I'm British).

[Biotic Sage]

Also, that Superbowl comparison is pretty lame. Yes, I do follow American football, quite closely in fact. I also follow Mass Effect closely. Comparing a NARRATIVE (with characters, plot, consequences, the whole shabang) to a SPORT where each game you get a fresh start with a 0-0 score is just inappropriate.

Once again, I get the quote's INTENT, but it is not a defensible quote.  Let's all just admit it was a poor choice of words and move on.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:27 .

[TheGreenAlloy]

sympathyforsaren wrote...

The older games were singleplayer games with a focus on singleplayer. Back when Mass Effect was good, before multiplayer, energy swords, railgun sequences and plastic FemShep.

Mass Effect 3 is the new Dragon Age 2

Back when Mass Effect was good?

Alrigthy, hipster.

[Ricinator]

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

sympathyforsaren wrote...

The older games were singleplayer games with a focus on singleplayer. Back when Mass Effect was good, before multiplayer, energy swords, railgun sequences and plastic FemShep.

Mass Effect 3 is the new Dragon Age 2

Back when Mass Effect was good?

Alrigthy, hipster.

he is right, it has been going down hill since EA took control

[Jade Elf]

Ah, another day at BSN...

Methinks it's worth pointing out a quote or two from the original Eurogamer article:

"As such, Flynn promised fans a "proper ending", one packed with surprises."

"[...]exactly what we're trying to do with the game we kicked off almost ten
years ago. They're working really hard to make it a real proper
conclusion, something that's fitting to what they've worked on for so
long, and what the fans are telling us they're dying to see.
"

Now that doesn't sound like a developer who is solely trying to cater to people new to the series, does it? Ok, so the footbal/superbowl analogy might not be the best, but I get the point.

[DarkDragon777]

Jade Elf wrote...

Ah, another day at BSN...

Methinks it's worth pointing out a quote or two from the original Eurogamer article:

"As such, Flynn promised fans a "proper ending", one packed with surprises."

"[...]exactly what we're trying to do with the game we kicked off almost ten
years ago. They're working really hard to make it a real proper
conclusion, something that's fitting to what they've worked on for so
long, and what the fans are telling us they're dying to see.
"

Now that doesn't sound like a developer who is solely trying to cater to people new to the series, does it? Ok, so the footbal/superbowl analogy might not be the best, but I get the point.

Because we all know everything they claim is true....<_<

[aridor1570]

Ricinator wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

basicly i get "we shot the RPG story in the face, here is some multiplayer and polished combat for people who never played the series can enjoy..." i might just cancel my pre-order.

Look who's jumping to conclusions.

not that far of a leap when presented with all info so far

Where do they imply that they shot the RPG story in the face? The MP was made by another team with a separate budget for it, which WOULDN'T exist if the team didn't exist, and the combat should be improved, because after playing ME for only one hour I got bored out of my mind from it, compare that to ME2... it took me 100 hours to get me bored out of it.