DarkDragon777 wrote...
Because we all know everything they claim is true....<_<
Modifié par Jade Elf, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:30 .
Jade Elf wrote...
Ah, another day at BSN...
Methinks it's worth pointing out a quote or two from the original Eurogamer article:
"As such, Flynn promised fans a "proper ending", one packed with surprises."
"[...]exactly what we're trying to do with the game we kicked off almost ten
years ago. They're working really hard to make it a real proper
conclusion, something that's fitting to what they've worked on for so
long, and what the fans are telling us they're dying to see.
"
Now that doesn't sound like a developer who is solely trying to cater to people new to the series, does it? Ok, so the footbal/superbowl analogy might not be the best, but I get the point.
Chris Priestly wrote...
Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.
Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.
That is Mass Effect 3.
Jade Elf wrote...
Ah, another day at BSN...
Methinks it's worth pointing out a quote or two from the original Eurogamer article:
"As such, Flynn promised fans a "proper ending", one packed with surprises."
"[...]exactly what we're trying to do with the game we kicked off almost ten
years ago. They're working really hard to make it a real proper
conclusion, something that's fitting to what they've worked on for so
long, and what the fans are telling us they're dying to see.
"
Now that doesn't sound like a developer who is solely trying to cater to people new to the series, does it? Ok, so the footbal/superbowl analogy might not be the best, but I get the point.
IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
This is the BSN! This is no place for reason and logic!
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Ofcoursenot wrote...
I'm now fully convinced that Bioware has undergone the IRL equivalent of indoctrination by their money-grubbing overlords at EA. Oh, so this game can stand alone? Buzz off. They're not even trying to hide that they're trying to draw in newbies to the franchise whilst ignoring those of us that were with them from the beginning of the trilogy. ****ing superbowl, eh? You know who watches the superbowl without watching the season? Children, and people who really don't give a damn about football. That applies to this, too.
I give Bioware this warning:
If they're going to boast like this about how great this game is by itself, then it had better exceed every word of praise and every great expectation. Because even if it manages to match the prior games in quality without any new improvements overall, it will be a failure. For an action-RPG franchise like Mass Effect, the end MUST be made with the Fans' enjoyment as the highest priority. Followed by developer's emotional closure, and THEN appeasing of newcomers and money. But bioware seems to be doing this out of order. Don't disappoint us. We brought you to this high. Don't you dare drop us.
Ofcoursenot wrote...
I'm now fully convinced that Bioware has undergone the IRL equivalent of indoctrination by their money-grubbing overlords at EA. Oh, so this game can stand alone? Buzz off. They're not even trying to hide that they're trying to draw in newbies to the franchise whilst ignoring those of us that were with them from the beginning of the trilogy. ****ing superbowl, eh? You know who watches the superbowl without watching the season? Children, and people who really don't give a damn about football. That applies to this, too.
I give Bioware this warning:
If they're going to boast like this about how great this game is by itself, then it had better exceed every word of praise and every great expectation. Because even if it manages to match the prior games in quality without any new improvements overall, it will be a failure. For an action-RPG franchise like Mass Effect, the end MUST be made with the Fans' enjoyment as the highest priority. Followed by developer's emotional closure, and THEN appeasing of newcomers and money. But bioware seems to be doing this out of order. Don't disappoint us. We brought you to this high. Don't you dare drop us.
RolandX9 wrote...
If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.
Sgt Stryker wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.
Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.
That is Mass Effect 3.
Yes, but unlike in football, shouldn't past victories/defeats influence how the rest of the war will play out? I can think of at least 6 different choices from ME1 and ME2 that should have had vast political ramifications and should have some influence on course of the war - the Rachni choice, save/destroy the Destiny Ascension, the Collector Base decision, the Genophage data, the quarian dilemma, and the Heretic geth problem. Granted, three of these are optional, but shouldn't making different choices in all of these instances set you up for a different experience each time?
Modifié par Biotic Sage, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:40 .
Candidate 88766 wrote...
ME3 is the main event, what the entire ME story has been bulding up to. We've known this all along.
ME1 and ME2 were the journey to get to that galactic war. They're a preamble to it. That doesn't somehow invalidate them. ME3 will mean much more to people because they've had two games worth of time building up this universe and relationships with the characters. ME1 and ME2 aren't necessary to enjoy the story of the galactic war - they're a bit like what The Hobbit is to The Lord of the Rings. They build up the universe, they build up the characters, they set the stage for the galactic war. They're fantastic stories in their own right, but they are purely preamble - the galactic war has always mean the main event of the Mass Effect story, what everything so far has been building up to and you're kidding yourselves if you think any differently.
ME3 will be so much more to the people who have experienced the journey building up to it by playing ME1 and ME2, but they're not truly necessary to enjoy the galactic war story. They're only necessary in the fact that decisions that shape your character were made in those parts of the story.
The Spamming Troll wrote...
RolandX9 wrote...
If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.
read this over and over and over untill you puke bioware.
im not playing ME3 becasue its a subpar GoW rip off.
Modifié par alex90c, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:37 .
Jade Elf wrote...
Ah, another day at BSN...
Methinks it's worth pointing out a quote or two from the original Eurogamer article:
"As such, Flynn promised fans a "proper ending", one packed with surprises."
"[...]exactly what we're trying to do with the game we kicked off almost ten
years ago. They're working really hard to make it a real proper
conclusion, something that's fitting to what they've worked on for so
long, and what the fans are telling us they're dying to see.
"
Now that doesn't sound like a developer who is solely trying to cater to people new to the series, does it? Ok, so the footbal/superbowl analogy might not be the best, but I get the point.
Guest_Montezuma IV_*
RolandX9 wrote...
If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.
Biotic Sage wrote...
Sgt Stryker wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.
Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.
That is Mass Effect 3.
Yes, but unlike in football, shouldn't past victories/defeats influence how the rest of the war will play out? I can think of at least 6 different choices from ME1 and ME2 that should have had vast political ramifications and should have some influence on course of the war - the Rachni choice, save/destroy the Destiny Ascension, the Collector Base decision, the Genophage data, the quarian dilemma, and the Heretic geth problem. Granted, three of these are optional, but shouldn't making different choices in all of these instances set you up for a different experience each time?
Priestly should just admit it was a less than ideal comparison and move on. Defending this comparison is facepalm-worthy. He should just emphasize to the whiners, "Stop overreacting, you get the point the dev was trying to make." That way, he has conceded a point, the whiners will be more likely to concede a point, and the world can keep spinning.
Sgt Stryker wrote...
Chris Priestly wrote...
Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.
Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.
That is Mass Effect 3.
Yes, but unlike in football, shouldn't past victories/defeats influence how the rest of the war will play out? I can think of at least 6 different choices from ME1 and ME2 that should have had vast political ramifications and should have some influence on course of the war - the Rachni choice, save/destroy the Destiny Ascension, the Collector Base decision, the Genophage data, the quarian dilemma, and the Heretic geth problem. Granted, three of these are optional, but shouldn't making different choices in all of these instances set you up for a different experience each time?
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Jade Elf wrote...
IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
This is the BSN! This is no place for reason and logic!
Hey, that's what's fun about BSN, in a facepalm kind of way...
The Spamming Troll wrote...
RolandX9 wrote...
If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.
read this over and over and over untill you puke bioware.
im not playing ME3 becasue its a subpar GoW rip off.
Try reading.Ricinator wrote...
Candidate 88766 wrote...
ME3 is the main event, what the entire ME story has been bulding up to. We've known this all along.
ME1 and ME2 were the journey to get to that galactic war. They're a preamble to it. That doesn't somehow invalidate them. ME3 will mean much more to people because they've had two games worth of time building up this universe and relationships with the characters. ME1 and ME2 aren't necessary to enjoy the story of the galactic war - they're a bit like what The Hobbit is to The Lord of the Rings. They build up the universe, they build up the characters, they set the stage for the galactic war. They're fantastic stories in their own right, but they are purely preamble - the galactic war has always mean the main event of the Mass Effect story, what everything so far has been building up to and you're kidding yourselves if you think any differently.
ME3 will be so much more to the people who have experienced the journey building up to it by playing ME1 and ME2, but they're not truly necessary to enjoy the galactic war story. They're only necessary in the fact that decisions that shape your character were made in those parts of the story.
what jerk only watches the return of the king?
IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
Jade Elf wrote...
IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
This is the BSN! This is no place for reason and logic!
Hey, that's what's fun about BSN, in a facepalm kind of way...
Aye, pretty much.
Your previous post pretty much confirms that Bioware DOES care about the choices made and that they DO care about what happened in ME1 and ME2.
It's just that Flynn's quote wasn't a very good example of that (one reason being that nobody really cares about American Football outside of North America).
Bioware haven't let us down with ME1 and ME2, why are people so willing to go ape**** over one quote in an IGN article?
Maybe they are targetting new fans too. They're a company. Companies need money. How dare they want more buyers of their products, right? For shame!
Candidate 88766 wrote...
ME3 is the main event, what the entire ME story has been bulding up to. We've known this all along.
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