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[Candidate 88766]

Montezuma IV wrote...

RolandX9 wrote...

If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.

This is the only thing I wish BioWare keeps in mind.

Really? You really saying you wouldn'd be interested in a game about a GALACTIC WAR!? To me thats just about the best game premise I've ever heard. 

[Candidate 88766]

Thompson family wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

ME3 is the main event, what the entire ME story has been bulding up to. We've known this all along.

That's the long and short of it, although I still think the "who cares?" Superbowl analogy was cringingly over-the-top. I could see the rest of this thread coming as soon as I read that.

Of course, thousands more customers and potential customers will read the IGN article than there are people who will read this thread, and most people reading and posting on this thread (myself included) have had their minds made up for years about whether they'll buy ME3 or not.

Oh yeah, it was a terrible line, but as you say it was directed at people who don't want to have to buy ME1 and ME2 to enjoy what looks like a pretty good game about a galactic war.

[C-Sec Nova]

Lol my friend always told me ign was a joke, and i always agreed it was a joke... But now after reading that, ign is one of those pointless jokes no one finds funny...

[Ricinator]

@Candidate
Again, What type of person only watches the Last movie of the series?

Would you watch Harry Potter starting with the last movie?

[onelifecrisis]

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Bioware haven't let us down with ME1 and ME2, why are people so willing to go ape**** over one quote in an IGN article?

Some would debate the bold bit. Besides, it's not just one article. Recently David Silverman said something like:
"Who can even remember what happened in ME1&2? I know I can't. It's not important."

[Biotic Sage]

Thompson family wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

ME3 is the main event, what the entire ME story has been bulding up to. We've known this all along.

That's the long and short of it, although I still think the "who cares?" Superbowl analogy was cringingly over-the-top. I could see the rest of this thread coming as soon as I read that.

Of course, thousands more customers and potential customers will read the IGN article than there are people who will read this thread, and most people reading and posting on this thread (myself included) have had their minds made up for years about whether they'll buy ME3 or not.

Exactly.  The mods just make it worse when they stubbornly defend things like that to the bitter end.  It's a BAD ANALOGY.  All I want them to do is admit it, I'm not accusing Bioware of "selling out" or actually making ME3 a stand-alone game.  ME3 looks awesome.  I have been looking forward to it for years.  Just admit that it is a terrible analogy.

ADMIT IT BIOWARE!!!
:innocent:

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:44 .

[Jade Elf]

Thompson family wrote...

That's the long and short of it,
although I still think the "who cares?" Superbowl analogy was cringingly
over-the-top. I could see the rest of this thread coming as soon as I
read that.

Of course, thousands more customers and potential
customers will read the IGN article than there are people who will read
this thread, and most people reading and posting on this thread (myself
included) have had their minds made up for years about whether they'll
buy ME3 or not.

Indeed. Just to reiterate - taken all by itself, the superbowl analogy isn't so great, but that's not all Aaryn said (see above/original Eurogamer article). But I guess IGN is partially to blame for that...

Also, what IEatWhatIPoo posted last on the previous page.





Edit: ok, this thread is moving fast

Modifié par Jade Elf, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:46 .

[aridor1570]

Ricinator wrote...

@Candidate
Again, What type of person only watches the Last movie of the series?

Would you watch Harry Potter starting with the last movie?

Movies=/=Video Games.

[Ricinator]

onelifecrisis wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Bioware haven't let us down with ME1, why are people so willing to go ape**** over one quote in an IGN article?

Some would debate the bold bit. Besides, it's not just one article. Recently David Silverman said something like:
"Who can even remember what happened in ME1&2? I know I can't. It's not important."

i haven't seen that yet could you find it good sir?

removed the bold because its wrong

[Biotic Sage]

aridor1570 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

@Candidate
Again, What type of person only watches the Last movie of the series?

Would you watch Harry Potter starting with the last movie?

Movies=/=Video Games.

Narrative = Narrative

[aridor1570]

onelifecrisis wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Bioware haven't let us down with ME1 and ME2, why are people so willing to go ape**** over one quote in an IGN article?

Some would debate the bold bit. Besides, it's not just one article. Recently David Silverman said something like:
"Who can even remember what happened in ME1&2? I know I can't. It's not important."

I hope that helps out.

[Ricinator]

aridor1570 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

@Candidate
Again, What type of person only watches the Last movie of the series?

Would you watch Harry Potter starting with the last movie?

Movies=/=Video Games.

yea movies understand you cant start with the end

[onelifecrisis]

Ricinator wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Bioware haven't let us down with ME1, why are people so willing to go ape**** over one quote in an IGN article?

Some would debate the bold bit. Besides, it's not just one article. Recently David Silverman said something like:
"Who can even remember what happened in ME1&2? I know I can't. It's not important."

i haven't seen that yet could you find it good sir?

removed the bold because its wrong

Found it. The line was:
"Mass Effect came out almost eight years ago - you're not going to remember all the details from when you played that game, right? Even I can't recall everything that happened to me when that came out in 2007."

Link: http://www.computera...ut-selling-out/

Edit:
Wait a minute... 2011 - 8 = 2007? 

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:54 .

[chris2365]

Ok guys. Let's just stay on topic. I'm pretty sure Bioware has a great game in store for both hardcore and casual fans of the Mass Effect series

[Ricinator]

@onelifecrisis
ty kind sir

[Ricinator]

chris2365 wrote...

Ok guys. Let's just stay on topic. I'm pretty sure Bioware has a great game in store for both hardcore and casual fans of the Mass Effect series

i seriously doubt that if its more ME2 than ME1

[billy the squid]

DiebytheSword wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.

Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.

That is Mass Effect 3.

Not to be stupid, but what people are concerned about is that the injured quarterback in some people's game might be dead, and yeah, that's pretty important going into the superbowl.  By that same token, I respect you guys enough to know that you'll do something about dead quarterbacks or romances with the cheerleaders, franchise changes in week 4-8 (you know, where our star quarterback played for another team) even if your overhyping the superbowl and not back advertising for a game that happened in week 6.

Its seems to me that the communtiy is overreacting, but you can't expect them not to for that very same reason.  Its how your selling it. (not you personally, but the team you represent)

Gaahhh! Football analogies, I can never understand them, or the game itself for that matter, I'm still stumped by it.

Aside from that I would imagine it is one of those wonderful foot in the mouth marketing moments, were it sounded better in one's head than it did when it came out. I assume it is a general over reaction and as the article is as flimsy as a wet paper towel and doesn't tell anyone anything that we don't already know, I'll take what is printed at face value.

If we were told that the space hamster in ME2 is actually a squad member, then I'd start to get worried.

Modifié par billy the squid, 01 novembre 2011 - 10:51 .

[Candidate 88766]

Ricinator wrote...

@Candidate
Again, What type of person only watches the Last movie of the series?

Would you watch Harry Potter starting with the last movie?

Again, you kinda missed the point. Think of Mass Effect like the entire works about Middle Earth. ME1 and ME2 act a bit like the Hobbit - Sauron, like the Reapers, is generally a distant threat apart form a few instances. The story introduces many of the characters and key elements such as the Ring. ME3 is a bit like the entire Lord of the Rings. LotR is about the quest to destroy the Ring, and the war with Sauron. Likewise, ME3 is about a galactic war with the Reapers. While the Hobbit introduces the Ring and many characters, you don't need to read it to enjoy LotR. Likewise, despite characters and the universe being ste up in the previous installments, you don't need to play ME1 and ME2 to enjoy ME3's story of the galactic war.

With the example of Harry Potter, books 1-3 merely set up stuff. Book 4 onwards is about the battle against Voldemort, and in this regard ME3 is like books 4-7. It helps if you've read books 1-3, but they were all independant stories that aren't actually necessary to understand the story of the battle with Voldemort.

[The Spamming Troll]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Which doesn't say it invalidates or that ME1 & 2 aren't important. Just that in the face of ME3, they seem less important.

Perhaps you don't follow football so do not get the analogy. It doesn't matter whether during the regular season you went 15-1 or 8-8. It doesn't matter whether your quarterback got hurt in week 6 or not. It doesn't matter if you traded your kicker in week 12. It absolutely did matter in week 6 or week 12 or whatever, but NOW is the superbowl. You had to work like hell through opponents and obstacles to get here, but THE TIME IS NOW and what came before was only the path to get you here.

That is Mass Effect 3.

BS.

its too bad im not conviced the superbowl, or even the regular season was or will be better then the preseason was.

the time is NOT now. atleast i never felt like it was.

[Candidate 88766]

Montezuma IV wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...

RolandX9 wrote...

If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.

This is the only thing I wish BioWare keeps in mind.

Really? You really saying you wouldn'd be interested in a game about a GALACTIC WAR!? To me thats just about the best game premise I've ever heard. 

If it was a movie, sure....but it's a video game...one I have to actually play.

Surely interacting in a galactic war is better than merely watching it? It would make a great film, sure, but in a game you actions dictate whether you win or not and to me thats much more exciting. I can't be the only one who gets all giddy at the thought of this premise.

[Candidate 88766]

aridor1570 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

@Candidate
Again, What type of person only watches the Last movie of the series?

Would you watch Harry Potter starting with the last movie?

Movies=/=Video Games.

Also a good point. Because of the higher cost of games, they are almost always independant stories even when part of a larger story arc. They have to be - no-one wants to pay £50 only to find out they need to spend another £50 to find out the end. Thats why ME1 and ME2 were self-contained while at the same time providing plenty of story hooks into each other, and into ME3.

[Beerfish]

A good number of people on gaming sites are quire clearly insane. The angst is paplable.

[aridor1570]

You know what I find funny?

When a developer says something that's sounds bad to the community they'll consider it as the ultimate truth, but when another developer comes in to tell others that what they think is the wrong analogy they take it as lies, the BSN is truly an amazing place.

[Ricinator]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

Montezuma IV wrote...

RolandX9 wrote...

If it weren't for ME1, I wouldn't even be looking at ME3.

This is the only thing I wish BioWare keeps in mind.

Really? You really saying you wouldn'd be interested in a game about a GALACTIC WAR!? To me thats just about the best game premise I've ever heard. 

If it was a movie, sure....but it's a video game...one I have to actually play.

Surely interacting in a galactic war is better than merely watching it? It would make a great film, sure, but in a game you actions dictate whether you win or not and to me thats much more exciting. I can't be the only one who gets all giddy at the thought of this premise.

i love that is time for the galactic war, but Bioware has abandoned almost everything that made ME1 great so its not hard for them to make it worse.