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#151
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Say what you will about Rockstar-- even if the sort of games they make have always been well on the sleazy side-- they deliver. They have big giant budgets; they make big giant worlds with a ton to do in them; the they have good writing and voice acting and are loads of fun to play; and they don't bull**** their customers with a mountain of PR talk about what they are going to do: they show a couple trailers and then deliver a great gaming experience. There's no distractions or broken promises or nasty DLC schemes: they make what they want to make and you can take them or leave them. The GTA games are arguably as much an RPG as what Bethesda has done lately; but the writing and story is actually superior.

And up until GTA4 you could say that RS were still doing it old-school: there's the story, and then there's the game-- and the game part was actually still a GAME. The goofball fun stuff was compartmentalized from the story part, and nobody got confused about which was which-- they were too busy having fun.

It's going to be interesting to see which direction V goes, having seen IV and MP3. I hope they correct their mistakes from IV-- the two major ones being the over-focus on narrative control over the player and the lack of earning money being meaningful. That they mention "earning money is the goal" sort of makes me think they've fixed at least one of the problems.



Because killing someone with a chainsaw, taking pictures of "Martha" seeing spillberg direct porn, a football player with a chopshop, a plane dropping porn film advertisements, a guy that shoots birds in his front yard in the middle of a city, a voodoo woman who looks like shes from a syrp bottle, Burt Reynolds having you to fly a toy helicopter to chop people up and then blow up said building, and toy airplanes that fly into boats and blow up, and a mean lady that has you selling drugs from an icecream truck, and a gang of cabbie drives who all want you dead, and is part of the story missions, isn't goofball at all.

Have you ever played Vice City? Almost every mission in that game was fantastic, and nuts.


Yeah, I basically mean all the gamey things you could do outside of the missions-- you know, like stunt-driving school and running marathons and lauching off monsterous cliffs on dirt bikes. That sort of wacky meta-game stuff that has no relationship at all to the story-driven half.  GTAIV worked to tell a more serious sort of narrative by integrating those things into the plot or removing them.  My point is that silly gamey stuff was a welcome distraction, and didn't tarnish the story-driven experience.

And in a way, I think that that sort of compartmentalization is more like older cRPGs-- that is to say, story and the gamelike parts were more compartmentalized.  And that is just fine.  It's only the modern cinematic games that have an anxiety attack over that sort of design and try to smoosh it all into one package, out of fear that the storytelling will somehow suffer or be cheapened.  But they are symboitic-- they aren't at odds.

Granted, the cinematic games in which everything is glommed together seem to be partitioning themselves again.  But it's not the same.  The two parts don't exist simultaneously and symbiotically.  

It's now one part that's been chopped up, and both halves suffer for it.

Modifié par Keylime73, 14 juillet 2012 - 03:21 .


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lolz
i know when GTA IV didnt have really any of the older,classical songs i was pissed.actually ill admit it pretty damn salty.
SR1 had some good ones too.SR2 no idea of the soundtrack

that just gave me an idea.i would like to see a blender used as a weapon in GTA V

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Keylime73 wrote...

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Ah figured you were one of those  who try and say "GTA ROCKS AS ITS REALISTIC*. My bad. See that alot online, I agree with you alot, some of the super silly momments in GTA VC and SA added to the game and didn't hurt. GTA 4 I really just don't like the feel of it and its hard for me to keep playing I've bought the game once, then again when I seen it real cheap, and just the mechanics, the story, so much of it was "meh" there was no fun factor, it felt like I was watching a Modern Godfather, and I'm sorry but no, thats not a great movie. lulz *flamesuit*

But yeah I agree with that.

And T&M agreed on that, it was the lulz.

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Eh if I could get it to work I'd have my own playlist from my own music.

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GTA4 already did that which is a cool idea but you had to install i-tunes.

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GTA4 already did that which is a cool idea but you had to install i-tunes.

I was not aware of this. I missed the custom radio station from San Andreas and wondered why they took it out. I was disappointed I had a hard drive full of music and the game wouldn't use it.

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Who needs music when you have Jason Sudeikis doing his best Rush Limbaugh impression. The talk radio stations were hilarious and never got old.

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Who needs music when you have Jason Sudeikis doing his best Rush Limbaugh impression. The talk radio stations were hilarious and never got old.

This. Wasn't there a kid on there who talked about murdering old people to keep the population down?

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I only liked the Talk Radio from Vice City, Thor ftw.

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Confess-A-Bear wrote...

I only liked the Talk Radio from Vice City, Thor ftw.


San Andreas had my favorite. Hans Oberlander was my favorite ever XD

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 New screenshots!

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3 more screenshots coming later this week.

Modifié par chunkyman, 20 août 2012 - 10:25 .


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Rumors rumors rumors. Heard one said they are aiming for release this year, maybe around October. Anyrate, no proof. Hopefulley they drop us some more info other than screenies this week.

Other rumors have it that the game world is at least 4x larger than GTA IV and it will have character customization + activities/features that were in SA. I hope so!

Regardless....I simply adore sandbox games. /stoked!

Modifié par fixit6, 20 août 2012 - 10:35 .


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fixit6 wrote...

Rumors rumors rumors. Heard one said they are aiming for release this year, maybe around October. Anyrate, no proof. Hopefulley they drop us some more info other than screenies this week.

Other rumors have it that the game world is at least 4x larger than GTA IV and it will have character customization + activities/features that were in SA. I hope so!

Regardless....I simply adore sandbox games. /stoked!

October? Lol hell no.....if it was coming in October we would've already known about it months ago. Sometime next year though, like in the summer would be more reasonable. Full character customization would be AWESOME though :)

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 New screenshots!

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BIKES AND PLANES?! Looking good, as long as that plane is pilotable

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J. Reezy wrote...

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 New screenshots!
*snips*

3 more screenshots coming later this week.

BIKES AND PLANES?! Looking good, as long as that plane is pilotable


In truth, I doubt they'd be showing off the planes so much if they weren't flyable. That was a big complaint in GTA IV as I remember, so I think they're trying to basically make it clear that it's back from SA

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I'm pretty sure a blimp is seen in the trailer, so hopefully that's pilotable too.

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GTA IV + GTA San Andreas = GTA V

Y'know, assuming that Rockstar isn't stupid.

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chunkyman wrote...

I'm pretty sure a blimp is seen in the trailer, so hopefully that's pilotable too.

That would be a new one, and awesome.

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I'm pretty sure a blimp is seen in the trailer, so hopefully that's pilotable too.

Knocking fighter planes out of the sky with one would be cool.....a bit ridiculous, but cool lol.

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Planes ftw. The graphic seem very good.

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Hmm I wondering with how the game looks if it will even release this Gen or next.

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I need this game. Right now.

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Hmm I wondering with how the game looks if it will even release this Gen or next.

Looks like a current-gen game tbh.

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Am I the only one who preferred the more serious atmosphere of GTA IV? I'm hoping they find a balance between seriousness and fun for this instalment. And I hope all cars will have randomised number plates too, which could be the case.

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Am I the only one who preferred the more serious atmosphere of GTA IV? I'm hoping they find a balance between seriousness and fun for this instalment. And I hope all cars will have randomised number plates too, which could be the case.

I always thought the GTA games before IV did have a pretty good balance between serious and fun. GTA IV seemed to lean too much towards serious and sacrificed what was fun about the story and gameplay.