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[The Cow King]

I've completed Athkatla + Windspear hills on my current playthrough of BG2, but I've noticed my loading times have skyrocketed. At the moment it takes 20-25 seconds for a quickload, which is far... far too much.

I'm running a very bare bones install (fixpack + tweakpack + widescreen), and I've already tried generalized biffing (with no help).

Are there any other ways to decrease loading times? I'm not exactly running a 10 year old computer either, so it's not that I'm sure.

What's even worse is that I'm playing a Wild Mage, and having dizzy, dizzy, gold vanishes in a row of loads means I'm spending 2 minutes watching the loading screen in one simple fight.

Modifié par The Cow King, 02 novembre 2011 - 04:16 .

[Humanoid_Taifun]

I think that reducing the number of save games was supposed to reduce the loading time...

[The Cow King]

I think that cannot be the problem, seeing my early save games load in approx. 1-2 seconds.

[devSin]

My guess would be that you've probably funked out your install by shuffling mods, or possibly some of the mods didn't install correctly.

With the other problems you're having, I think you're just going to keep moving from bad to worse.

Modifié par devSin, 02 novembre 2011 - 05:44 .

[Humanoid_Taifun]

The Cow King wrote...

I think that cannot be the problem, seeing my early save games load in approx. 1-2 seconds.

Then apparently your save games are accumulating a lot of junk. Haven't seen that before in my games though...

[Gate70]

Sounds like you need the beta patch, not sure what complications your mods will have though. Details below, from Sorcerer's Place

Throne of Bhaal BETA Patch 26499 4.2MB

This BETA patch is being provided to fix a particular issue with the Throne of Bhaal 26498 patch (above). If you are having a problem with save and load times noticeably increasing, the new Throne of Bhaal 26499 BETA patch has been found to resolve the problem. The patch is applicable to the English, German, French, Italian, and Spanish versions of Throne of Bhaal.

Note: Please keep in mind that this patch has received limited testing and so is marked as BETA. You should only install this if you are having very slow save and load times in Throne of Bhaal. If you are not experiencing these problems, do not install this. Installation of the 26499 BETA patch must only be done after the 26498 patch is installed.

Instructions

To repair a slow saving/loading saved game, you must first have the BETA patch installed. The patch installer copies a new BGMain.exe into your Baldur’s Gate II root directory. Then start the game and load the affected game (with the slow loading time), and resave it (the saving time will continue to be slow at this point). The save game has now been fixed and future saving/loading of the saved game will now take the normal amount of time. This new BETA patched version of Throne of Bhaal is still multiplayer compatible with the 26498 patched version of the game.

[Ishad Nha]

Did you do a full install of the original game?

[The Cow King]

Gate70 wrote...

Sounds like you need the beta patch, not sure what complications your mods will have though. Details below, from Sorcerer's Place

That sounds great thanks very much. Seems to fit my problem description. I'll try it out.

I do have fixpack + tweakpack + widescreen + generalized biffing installed though, can I just lump the beta patch on top of them without uninstalling & reinstalling all my mods?

I guess I'll uninstall all my mods, install the patch, then reinstall my mods. I have a list of all components I have of each (installed).

Or I might just do a full reinstall of BG2/TOB, install the beta patch on top of the official patch, then install all my mods as they were.

Ishad Nha wrote...

Did you do a full install of the original game?

Yes, I always do full installs with BGs.

Modifié par The Cow King, 03 novembre 2011 - 06:04 .

[AnonymousHero]

The Cow King wrote...

I guess I'll uninstall all my mods, install the patch, then reinstall my mods. I have a list of all components I have of each (installed).

Or I might just do a full reinstall of BG2/TOB, install the beta patch on top of the official patch, then install all my mods as they were.

Save yourself a world of pain and do a full reinstall. Keep your old WEIDU.log (from the BG2 directory) around for reference when reinstalling.

I would try a full reinstall without the BETA patch first.

[The Cow King]

I did a full re-install with the beta patch, and it worked. My original saves are still affected, but when I quicksave-quickload, loading times are back to 1-2 seconds, as per the patch description (need to resave for the patch to take effect).

BUT

Widescreen mod doesn't work for the beta patch, and I've read that you can't even play the game from start to finish with the beta patch.

Does anyone know if it's possible to somehow manually fix your game in the same way 26499 does it? How does 26499 actually fix the loading time bug, what causes it?

It'd be a great shame to throw away 150 something hours of playing at this point :/

It's almost like the universe itself is trying to prevent me from playing BG1->TOB, every time I run into a gamebreaking bug.

Modifié par The Cow King, 03 novembre 2011 - 09:16 .

[The Cow King]

How can I even start a new game knowing I might run into this crap again :(/

[Gate70]

I've never experienced this issue so haven't used the beta patch. I don't quicksave, usually alternating between two proper savegames. Maybe that helps avoid this sort of issue?

You could copy your shiny/new/fixed save game, uninstall again, install without the beta patch, install your mods, copy your savegame back and resume your game.

Understand your concern about this happening again in Amn nobody can hear you scream so I'm going to make a suggestion about something you could try if that happens.

The beta patch looks like it is just a replacement EXE. So, make a copy of your game EXE and if you need to beta patch again you could just try running that one instead. Have a backup of your savegame in case it all goes horribly wrong, and you may have to remove the widescreen mod. If it works delete the beta BGMain.exe and copy the original one back.

Afterthought;
Or you could try extracting BGMain.EXE from the previous patch instead of yet another re-install. If it runs automatically I expect various other files are replaced and potentially over-write mod changes.

Modifié par Gate70, 03 novembre 2011 - 07:27 .

[Son of Imoen]

I am suffering slow loading of save-games as well, since a System-Restore I made after I messed something up, not related to BG at all. After system-restore, my save-games have been slower to load. I backup my BGmain.exe to try out that beta-fix, but for me it didn't help at all. I can confirm widescreen mod didn't work with that beta-patch. But I did backup my BGmain.exe and placed it back, so I can continue as before.

I remember having this problem before after a system-restore and if I remember it well, it was solved after a reinstall. However, the slow loading affects all my games now, and I have 7 campaigns with 5 different sets of mods (only 2 are copies of another install), so that task would take a frighteningly long time, with more chance of doing things wrong than with writing the word frighteningly if you're not a native speaker of english.

[The Cow King]

Gate70 wrote...
You could copy your shiny/new/fixed save game, uninstall again, install without the beta patch, install your mods, copy your savegame back and resume your game.

Hoowee, this worked. At least now I know how to fix this if I ever run into it again. Or maybe someone runs into this thread through google if they have the same problem.

HOWEVER

When you're not playing Baldur's Gate, you're thinking about Baldur's Gate, and my mind wandered around new and exciting character builds, and I'm now somewhat tempted to start a Firetooth archer. Or maybe an assassin who lobs around fire seeds with Poison Weapon.

Cursed be.

Modifié par The Cow King, 04 novembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[TimmyMcSkinny]

The Cow King wrote...

I did a full re-install with the beta patch, and it worked. My original saves are still affected, but when I quicksave-quickload, loading times are back to 1-2 seconds, as per the patch description (need to resave for the patch to take effect).

I have reinstalled BG2 & TOB numerous times with the 26498 patch and the 26499 Beta patch also but no matter what I do the game still takes forever to save and load. The further I get into the game the longer it takes. I've only just completed De'arnise's Keep and undertook this quest pretty much straight away so the game looks like it'll be virtually unplayable if I ever get near to the end of it.

Now I've seen a fix on some other sites regarding the file default.tot in the temp folder. At the moment this file size is at 516mb and continuously rising and this appears to be the reason for the long saves/loads. But alas, the fix does not work for me.

I played BG2 & TOB on my old pc back in the day running Windows XP and had no problems whatsoever. I'm still running Windows XP but on a newer computer and am only just encountering this problem. 

If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[morbidest2]

I've recently encountered slow loading times. I went to my Save Folder and got rid of about 100 saves from old runs and the problem went away. I also use Windows XP on the old computer I keep the BG saga on.

[TimmyMcSkinny]

morbidest2 wrote...

I've recently encountered slow loading times. I went to my Save Folder and got rid of about 100 saves from old runs and the problem went away. I also use Windows XP on the old computer I keep the BG saga on.

I wish that was the problem. I only have 4 saves. Autosave, quick save, my current game, and a game where I tried out the wild mage. The first 3 take ages to load/save but the wild mage file loads and saves super quick as I'm only in Irenicus' Dungeon and the default.tot file here is in the kilobytes. Minuscule in comparison to the 515mb of my recent saves. 

Thanks for the help though. Glad you can enjoy BG2!

[Ishad Nha]

"515mb"? My saves are only 1.35MB at the end of the game...

[Gate70]

Have you tried alternating between two save slots e.g. wmage1 and wmage2, probably too late for your other games. Not sure this will help but painless to try.

Are you sure the patch installed OK and did you do the correct order (patch, run the game exe, load, save).

[TimmyMcSkinny]

My actual save files are around 2mb but the 515mb is the default.tot file that exists in the temp folder when you're playing the game. It keeps on growing. Initially had two save files but gave one up and now use a quick save for that. Definitely done everything in that order. Well, it's a Saturday today, I shall try to see if I can get it to work.

[morbidest2]

Is the computer you're using old enough that 1 GB is a significant part of the hard drive? Is your hard drive 85%, or more, filled?

I just tried loading a save from near the end of SoA - before entering the palace in Suldan - and a save in a current run in ToB. In both cases the size of the Temp folder was a little less than 6 MB. When you shut down the game that Temp folder is supposed to essentially go to zero. Is that happening on your computer?

Have you tried posting this issue on the technical problem forum? You may find more "machine" savvy players ther.

Modifié par morbidest2, 03 décembre 2011 - 04:32 .

[Ishad Nha]

It took around 20 seconds for me to load the save from when the party was in Hell. My temp folder was all of 4.98MB in size and my default.tot file was only 4.09KB!

Even for one of the last save games for Throne of Bhaal, load time was up to 40 seconds, temp folder was 6.51MB and the default.tot file was still only 19.4KB.  Are you suffering from a problem with a mod?

Temp folder should be totally empty after you shut down the game: 0KB.

Modifié par Ishad Nha, 04 décembre 2011 - 12:55 .