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[blothulfur]

Every Qunari in existence considers her an enemy without honour, her crimes shall be paid for and her repentance shall last a lifetime.

[KenKenpachi]

Well she's a pirate **** and her actions did lead to a slaughter and mini war, so yes.

[Flashflame58]

Everyone has haters.

I happen to like Isabela. Minus her skanky nature, she's a pretty cool companion.

[Mr.House]

KenKenpachi wrote...

Well she's a pirate **** and her actions did lead to a slaughter and mini war, so yes.

Yes because Izzy led a group of people that where pissing off the the Qunari and killing converts. Oh wait....

[Master Shiori]

ladyofpayne wrote...

She annoing me too much.

No more than you're annoying us by playing a broken record. 

I mean, seriously, how many hate threads do you need to make?! We got the message after the first 2, so thank you and good night.

[Ryzaki]

Mr.House wrote...

The Warden is a Sue!

Uh...the warden actually kind of *is* an actual Sue. None of the companions in the games are actual sues though Tallis to me anyway is easily the most sueish of the companions. 

It's a running BW protagonist trend. 

But of *course* the PC is a sue due to the virtue of him/her almost always being self inserty. That's not automatically a bad thing.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 novembre 2011 - 07:53 .

[Quething]

jlb524 wrote...

(3) After stealing the relic, Isabela's ship fought a qunari warship but Isabela still somehow survived even when most of her crew died. Again, Isabela should have died.

I think her objection to "qunary warship" is actually in reference to Isabela's escape from the Arishok if you hand her over. The game is mocking her, see. It gives her this perfect chance to punish Izzy for her indifference to sexist patriarchal reproductive mores "betrayal of Kirkwall" by sending her off to be mindraped by the Qunari, and then snatches that petty vindictiveness away by saying Isabela escaped anyway and you didn't manage to punish her at all.

(You'd think people could get some satisfaction out of the sheer cruelty of betraying her in the first place when Hawke's the first person she's ever started to believe she could trust, but I suppose nothing is sufficient punishment for a woman who dares to enjoy sex.)

[upsettingshorts]

Master Shiori wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

She annoing me too much.

No more than you're annoying us by playing a broken record. 

I mean, seriously, how many hate threads do you need to make?! We got the message after the first 2, so thank you and good night.

And her Isabela hate group continues to swell in numbers, as a testament to the righteousness of her cause!

No, wait, it's still just her and five other sad people.

[Thor Rand Al]

ladyofpayne wrote...
Just look at her clothes. That just fanservice- real pirates don looks like this. Het jokes anly about sex. I am speaking the truth - that is the one of main reasons that fanboys love her so much. 
Anders similar at Isabela in personality but if he was a woman and has opened clothes fanboys love him too like her. 

Just to let u know I am not a guy, I am a straight female n my fem Hawke's always see Isy as their bff and my male Hawke's 9 times out of 10 romance her or shag her 
But I absolutely adore Isabela because this girl has personality, she has spunk.  She's fun to be around, her banter is funny.  She's got spirit.  So what she's got sex on the brain, see past that.  Yes she did cause probs stealing that relic but no companion in DA2 is innocent of wrong doing.  Everyone has killed someone or caused a death, shyt even Hawke. 

[Sunnie]

Thor Rand Al wrote...
So what she's got sex on the brain, see past that.

 

Or don't and play into it! /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/80463.gif
She's a human female after all, and I can attest as a human female, I have sex on the the brain all the time! For the average correctly functioning human female, sex (whether with someone else or solo) is a majorly important part of life! /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/43394.gif

[Terryballer]

 I have to agree with Ladyofpayne. I absolutely hate Isabelaand bioware for putting her in my game. How dare she be the Li I've romancedeleven out of my fourteen playthroughs. How dare she be so awesome, I play thegame fourteen times in the first place. I absolutely can't stand how her bantermakes me laugh. The nerve of bioware for making a character that I have to getto REALLY know and delve into to understand, and then give me the opportunity to get to know her better;). In fact just to prove my hate for her, I'm going torivalmance her, and NOT give her the boat, and then I won't feel at all satisfied for her wanting to be a better person for me.

Modifié par Terryballer, 05 novembre 2011 - 12:15 .

[ReallyRue]

I don't hate Isabela, I love her. She's hilarious. She also has a good dose of self-confidence, but not so much that she's deluded. One of her banters with Aveline shows this:
The banter at 2:07 -

And there's an insightful one from her in a banter with Anders about justice (the concept, not the spirit):
At 3:44 -

And one about regrets:
At 1:49 -

And there's her kindness and protectiveness towards Merrill, and the fact she comes back for you if you get her into friendship/rivalry, and her anti-slavery, anti-judgemental attitudes. Isabela is deeper than people give her credit for.

Edit: And after reading Terryballer's comment, I remember that you can rivalry her if you really don't like her attitude, and she will become a "better person"! What more could anyone want? Trousers? That would be madness!

Modifié par ReallyRue, 05 novembre 2011 - 12:12 .

[Cutlasskiwi]

ladyofpayne wrote...

Isabela like Morry "Love is stupid, blah-blah-blah" , "harm in youth", then "I love you", so predictable and boring. I'd like to see female character as Aribeth- strong but feminity, not a wh*re and selfish b*tch - Isabela seduce Hawke and tell him that it was just for fun, she just backstub Hawke with foliat of Kolsine like stubborn wh*re as she is. Also she sleeps with everything that moves, her apperiance just fanservice, and she has some deseases.

 

Whenever I see someone calling Issy that and hating her because of it, to me, it just comes of as fixating on one part of her character, exaggerate it and deciding not to like her no matter what. There's a lot more to her character than her sexual nature.

ladyofpayne wrote...

Just tell me the trith- you love her more than Anders because of her ******.

 

Also, really? Wow...

[CrimsonZephyr]

ReallyRue wrote...

I don't hate Isabela, I love her. She's hilarious. She also has a good dose of self-confidence, but not so much that she's deluded. One of her banters with Aveline shows this:
The banter at 2:07 -

And there's an insightful one from her in a banter with Anders about justice (the concept, not the spirit):
At 3:44 -

And one about regrets:
At 1:49 -

And there's her kindness and protectiveness towards Merrill, and the fact she comes back for you if you get her into friendship/rivalry, and her anti-slavery, anti-judgemental attitudes. Isabela is deeper than people give her credit for.

Edit: And after reading Terryballer's comment, I remember that you can rivalry her if you really don't like her attitude, and she will become a "better person"! What more could anyone want? Trousers? That would be madness!

Trousers, under pain of death. The glorious father, our Maker demands it.

[Quething]

ReallyRue wrote...

Edit: And after reading Terryballer's comment, I remember that you can rivalry her if you really don't like her attitude, and she will become a "better person"! What more could anyone want? Trousers? That would be madness!

Honestly, if that's your sticking point, that's what mods are for.  Either by giving her normal outfit pants (I like the black ones that lace up the sides, they're very her) or by letting her equip any armor Hawke can (she looks really good in that Flint Company cuirass).

[Mr.House]

Pants? With Izzy? What?

[ReallyRue]

Mr.House wrote...

Pants? With Izzy? What?

I know, it'd be like sanity on Anders, perish the thought!

[lobi]

Isabella is more anti-Castillon than she is anti-slavery, and who can blame her. The French won.

Modifié par lobi, 05 novembre 2011 - 01:53 .

[Knight of Dane]

I thought Castillon was Antivan, aka. Italian?

[Heidenreich]

I can't believe you guys let this get 5 pages long. Seriously.

[Shepard Lives]

Knight of Dane wrote...

I thought Castillon was Antivan, aka. Italian?

Antiva may be a Venice-like city state, but its inhabitants are clearly inspired by the Spanish.

EDIT - Oh my God, I bumped this. What is wrong with me.

Modifié par Shepard Lives, 05 novembre 2011 - 02:13 .

[LobselVith8]

Shepard Lives wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

I thought Castillon was Antivan, aka. Italian?

Antiva may be a Venice-like city state, but its inhabitants are clearly inspired by the Spanish.

I agree. Antivans speak Spanish, after all. Zevran says "si amor?" to a romanced Warden, and Vincento (Feynriel's father) says maldición.

[Riknas]

Every time I pass by this thread, I think of replying to it. But every time I just realize that the grammar is off and should be, "Are there people who hate Isabela?" so I get mad and stomp off.

But no, I don't hate her.

[Knight of Dane]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Shepard Lives wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

I thought Castillon was Antivan, aka. Italian?

Antiva may be a Venice-like city state, but its inhabitants are clearly inspired by the Spanish.

I agree. Antivans speak Spanish, after all. Zevran says "si amor?" to a romanced Warden, and Vincento (Feynriel's father) says maldición.

Perhaps you are right, i just always saw them as Italian and the Rivaini as Spanish, but aside from Isabela i don't really remember anyone from there, much less one speaking the native tounge.