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[Heidenreich]

I was going to say, there's at least two thousand pages worth of just that sort of dissection-and-defense of Anders in the ANDERS THREAD. silly.

As for hating these characters... I just don't understand it. Not a single character in this game is hate-worthy. Not even Meredith. In fact the only one who comes even close is Patrice. And I can even understand why SHE did things. Not that I agree, but I can see the point.

Also, it's really, really easy to keep bela and nearly never use her ever. I can get a full 50% friendship with her in act2 simply by doing her quest in act 1, giving her a gift, and taking her into the fade.

After that, its purple-line text that gets the most friendship points out of her, much like Varric.

[angie_e45]

I find that I liked her more in Origins. At least in that game she seemed to have some standards and didn't come off as a selfish ****. I hate her clothes. I hate how selfish she is and I hate the way she seems so desperate for sex. A woman as strong as her shouldn't have to throw herself at men or women.

[Quething]

Desperate? Hardly. A desperate woman wouldn't have turned down the Bad Poet.

(Which I'm still a little surprised by. So he's not great with words. Neither is Hawke half the time, and the Poet's not a bad-looking dude. I bet he's a generous lover, too, which can make up for any skill he might lack.

I suppose that "dusky goddess" bit was a little over the line, though.)

[Ravensword]

Quething wrote...

Desperate? Hardly. A desperate woman wouldn't have turned down the Bad Poet.

-snip-

No one can resist the charm of the Bad Poet.

[Annie_Dear]

[Drone696]

Ravensword wrote...

Quething wrote...

Desperate? Hardly. A desperate woman wouldn't have turned down the Bad Poet.

-snip-

No one can resist the charm of the Bad Poet.

Dat voice, seriously.

(Does it ring a bell, ladyofpayne? ;D)

Edit: Just for the record, I like Isabela.

Modifié par rapunzel696, 09 décembre 2011 - 05:23 .

[Ravensword]

Annie_Dear wrote...

Oh, look. It's Pacifien.

[Thiefy]

Celestina wrote...



Kidding aside, I actually hate her for her selfish and apathetic nature.

LOL oh god

I actually also dislike her; not for the sex thing so much as the lack of loyalty. I also had problems with getting her to stay unless I metagamed. Or slept with her - which is a big no. My PC doesn't need to catch anything from her. To be fair, I liked her before I played the game (you know, before the game was even released, lol), does that count? 

Anyway, everyone has their own personal tastes, but I don't think they should take her out completely. While I wouldn't mind it and would prefr a "fresh" leading lady, I don't think it's fair to the people that do enjoy her character and want her in their games.

I don't think it's really right to impose my personal preferrence or taste on other people, especially when it's easy enough to just ignore her. I do wish there was an option to kill her though. Turning her into the Qunari isn't good enough since she escapes. =/ We can ruin the lifes of or kill any of the other companions so I call BS and shenanigans on this.

[jlb524]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

Anyway, everyone has their own personal tastes, but I don't think they should take her out completely. While I wouldn't mind it and would prefr a "fresh" leading lady, I don't think it's fair to the people that do enjoy her character and want her in their games.

There will be a new leading lady for DA3 (along with a new PC)...unless you mean for DA2.

[BBK4114]

I actually really love Izzy.
The biggest problem with her though, is that I have to metagame her to either get friendship or rivalry. Yeah, like her but no num-nums for her diseased self. (If you play as a female she's at Anders clinic with an STD - so...no.)
But she's the least jerk-y of the companions, well besides Varric, and has the best banters, imo.

And like someone else said, besides Varric, Aveline, and the sib, they all do horrible, horrible things, most of which involve killing innocents.

Modifié par BBK4114, 14 décembre 2011 - 05:09 .

[brightblueink]

I don't hate her, but I don't really like her, either. I'm just sorta "meh" on her. She's my least favorite of the companions (besides maybe Sebastian, I don't have his DLC so I don't know too much about what he's like).

It could just be that I haven't spent much time with her, though. She dumped me in the 2nd chapter of my first playthrough, and I'm currently on the first second playthrough that's gotten past the first act.

[Quething]

BBK4114 wrote...
(If you play as a female she's at Anders clinic with an STD - so...no.) 

You all realize she's at the clinic getting it cured, right?

If you sleep with her after talking to Anders, she's got a clean bill of health and won't be passing anything along to you.

If you sleep with her before talking to Anders it's more likely than not she got whatever it was from Hawke. So, y'know.

[bleetman]

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
I do wish there was an option to kill her though. Turning her into the Qunari isn't good enough since she escapes. =/ We can ruin the lifes of or kill any of the other companions so I call BS and shenanigans on this.

It's clearly a failing of the game for not allowing the player to maximise their unecessary pettiness, yes.

'I don't like this character, thus they deserve to have their lives ruined and/or ended by my hand.'

Modifié par bleetman, 14 décembre 2011 - 07:34 .

[jlb524]

BBK4114 wrote...
(If you play as a female she's at Anders clinic with an STD - so...no.)

I didn't realize that depended on Hawke's gender...which is kind of odd.

[Arcadian Legend]

bleetman wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
I do wish there was an option to kill her though. Turning her into the Qunari isn't good enough since she escapes. =/ We can ruin the lifes of or kill any of the other companions so I call BS and shenanigans on this.

It's clearly a failing of the game for not allowing the player to maximise their unecessary pettiness, yes.

'I don't like this character, thus they deserve to have their lives ruined and/or ended by my hand.'

I sadly have to agree with this. We gamers can be a grim lot.

[syllogi]

jlb524 wrote...

BBK4114 wrote...
(If you play as a female she's at Anders clinic with an STD - so...no.)

I didn't realize that depended on Hawke's gender...which is kind of odd.

In at least one of my games, it was Seneschal Bran at the clinic, but that was when Isabela ran away.  What other scene would male characters see?

[TEWR]

bleetman wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
I do wish there was an option to kill her though. Turning her into the Qunari isn't good enough since she escapes. =/ We can ruin the lifes of or kill any of the other companions so I call BS and shenanigans on this.

It's clearly a failing of the game for not allowing the player to maximise their unecessary pettiness, yes.

'I don't like this character, thus they deserve to have their lives ruined and/or ended by my hand.'

This.

I absolutely abhor killing companions as a way to remove them from the party. And I think it's just.... weird for people to get mad at a game because they can't kill a companion/NPC.

[Drone696]

jlb524 wrote...

BBK4114 wrote...
(If you play as a female she's at Anders clinic with an STD - so...no.)

I didn't realize that depended on Hawke's gender...which is kind of odd.

I got the scene with both dude Hawke and Hawkette, so...

[whykikyouwhy]

I believe it's as liesandpropaganda stated - that scene is based on whether or not she is actively in your party. If she's in the group, you get to see Bran.

[maxernst]

BBK4114 wrote...

I actually really love Izzy.
The biggest problem with her though, is that I have to metagame her to either get friendship or rivalry. Yeah, like her but no num-nums for her diseased self.

Yeah, that's my only real issue with her...I find I can only keep her by romancing her.  Then again, she is the only romantic interest with any common sense at all.

[jlb524]

liesandpropaganda wrote...

Her convo in Anders' clinic depends on weather you have her in your party or not, not by player's gender. If she's with you, Bran replaces her

OMG BRAN HAS AN STD WHAT A **** I HATE HIM SO MUCH HE MUST DIE

etc

Okay, thanks!  I've seen both scenes with Isabela and Bran (playing as a female)...I didn't know if there was another one that was dependent on gender or whatever.

[Darth Death]

For the first time, I read the entire op & enjoyed it. That has never happened since I became a member.

As for the discussion... When I think of Isabella, I think of a nasty STD with legs. As a guy, I find her unusual sex craving nature disturbing & a complete penis shrinker . I never bothered having her in my platoon, so inevitably she betrays me every play through. The fact she doesn't wear any pants, for some odd reason has always bugged me. It's so disgusting & unattractive. I'm a man with respect & standards for the opposite sex, but Isabella has neither.

[Thiefy]

bleetman wrote...

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
I do wish there was an option to kill her though. Turning her into the Qunari isn't good enough since she escapes. =/ We can ruin the lifes of or kill any of the other companions so I call BS and shenanigans on this.

It's clearly a failing of the game for not allowing the player to maximise their unecessary pettiness, yes.

it is when you can be "petty" with every single other character other than isabella. it's called 'play style' and a lot of people have different types. or are you saying i shouldn't be allowed to do something in game because YOU wouldn't do/enjoy it?

This.

I absolutely abhor killing companions as a way to remove them from the party. And I think it's just.... weird for people to get mad at a game because they can't kill a companion/NPC.

No one is getting angry at you for anything

I'm a man with respect & standards for the opposite sex, but Isabella has neither.

hahaha

[TEWR]

No one is getting angry at you for anything

I said "mad at the game".

Not "mad at me".