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[Vicious]

Morrigan has a survival of the fittest belief coupled with a holier than thou attitude. Despite her possible feelings for your character, she WILL abandon him in the end if he doesn't make a deal with her.

That said she is wildly inconsistent.
 
Wants to help Help Sten trapped in a Cage and resigned toh is fate.

Stands up for Jowan mostly just because he's a blood mage by the dialogue.

Wants to leave Redcliffe to die in an 'unwinnable battle' that isnt.

Is utterly blown away that you would dare to destroy the Anvil of the Void.

Is more than happy to kill Wynne MERELY because she's with the Circle. [violent to go with her generally holier than thou attitude]

etc etc ad nauseam.

Morrigan is an emotionally and socially stunted wreck with zero wisdom who in carrying out her mother's designs becomes pretty much a shell of her mother. [lol]

my opinion.

[Dsurian]

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

Dont you guys/girls talk bad about the mother of your Char in Dragon Age 2!
I mean... isnt this obviously going in the direction of Baldurs Gate 1(followed by 2) plot-and-storyline?
Seems like DA:O 1 was "just" the "Baldurs Gate Prologue Story".

Never thought of it, but yeah...and not to spoil BG2, but isnt there a bhaal spawn (the giant maybe?...memories fuzzy) that was raised by a witch of the wilds?...oddly similar.

[Malsumis]

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

Dont you guys/girls talk bad about the mother of your Char in Dragon Age 2!
I mean... isnt this obviously going in the direction of Baldurs Gate 1(followed by 2) plot-and-storyline?
Seems like DA:O 1 was "just" the "Baldurs Gate Prologue Story".

What's people obssesion with this? Aren't people meant to be sick of playing the 'chosen one'? Do people really think the Bio writers came up with the DA universe to just copy and paste the BG saga story?

IF Bio decide to make the ritual happeing canon(Alistair/MPC/Loghain), it's for more likely the child would be used as the weapon for the old religion to battle the new religion. Personally I would love to see something like this. Yes that also is very close to another tale, but to me it's just a far more appealing tale, then uber PC/god/chosen one tale #238484.

[Vicious]

What's people obssesion with this? Aren't people meant to be sick of playing the 'chosen one'? Do people really think the Bio writers came up with the DA universe to just copy and paste the BG saga story?

THANK YOU

[Fishy]

I just had an idea about this while drinking my coffee lol.
Morrigan tell the PC that she have to leave and raise the kid away from men but  the kids  will know about his/her origin and learn to respect it (he/she will know who he's the father prob)

The whole thing make me ponder. Maybe because of the old god the kid can't be close to someone tainted by the blight.Thus can't be close to civilization and especialy his father .She did not want to do bongo bongo with my character after falling in love  but yet , remained very jealous and possesive.

Prob thinking the PC would just stop loving her and that would be much more easier for her to leave.She said she don't deserve all the attention and actually try everything for the PC to stop loving her.She told also that one word from the PC and she would leave right away when she's in love.

All of that make me more and more question all of this.Morrigan ain't evil.Far from it.She's actually making a huge sacrifice just like the Warden.

[MoSa09]

Suprez30 wrote...

I just had an idea about this while drinking my coffee lol.
Morrigan tell the PC that she have to leave and raise the kid away from men but  the kids  will know about his/her origin and learn to respect it (he/she will know who he's the father prob)

The whole thing make me ponder. Maybe because of the old god the kid can't be close to someone tainted by the blight.Thus can't be close to civilization and especialy his father .She did not want to do bongo bongo with my character after falling in love  but yet , remained very jealous and possesive.

Prob thinking the PC would just stop loving her and that would be much more easier for her to leave.She said she don't deserve all the attention and actually try everything for the PC to stop loving her.She told also that one word from the PC and she would leave right away when she's in love.

All of that make me more and more question all of this.Morrigan ain't evil.Far from it.She's actually making a huge sacrifice just like the Warden.

Some true and wise words against all the hatred here. If you get to know her better, there are indeed reasons to believe she is doing this for a higher purpose in which she really beliefs in. This is not to say that what she beliefs is equally good for everyone (in fact, no such decision exists in DAO, every choice is kinda grey and has it's goods and bads, and you have to decide what you value more personally), but she has her own reasons for her doing this and these reasos are most probably far from selfish. I believe she wants to restore an old order of the world, that was before the chantry and their iron fist enslaved the mages and controlled the world. She wants to restore a time where magic was free, i believe. That you can view as good or bad, as it has it's charm and it's risk, but it's surely not evil.
And if you look at the hatred the chantry hold against the mages, and how they treat them, i'd say there is reason to believe that there is more to this than just the fear of mages being posseed by demons. The chantry supresses the mages for more reason than we know, they're hiding something and i'd bet whatever Morrigan is up to will bring her at odds with them (and after my game experiences with the chantry, i can't blame her, on the contrary)

[The Angry One]

Vicious wrote...

Is utterly blown away that you would dare to destroy the Anvil of the Void.

As much as I hate agreeing with the evil witch, this one does make sense. Golems are effective weapons against the darkspawn. While the process of creating them is questionable, it's a means to an end. Like, you know, Grey Wardens tainting themselves.
More extreme, sure. But outright destroying it is a silly luddite solution that helps no one.

[GarouM]

Suprez30 wrote...

[...]Morrigan ain't evil.Far from it.She's actually making a huge sacrifice just like the Warden.

I tend to agree here, even though I wouldn't discount the possibility that she actually is just manipulating you ("We believe what we want to believe. It's all we ever do").

In an idealistic way, the ending with Morrigan reminds me a little of the ending of Casablanca, albeit with partly switched roles.

[Elanareon]

Don't be ridiculous. The Morrigan story will be continued yes but don't get your hopes up that your pc will be there! Too manu choices to continue with the same PC. What i think will happen is the next antagonist will be the gos child or you yourself will be the godchild. TBH that's why i don't like open ended stories. There's little possibility of continuing it. If it did it's vague and not the same story anymore.

[Shadin_2]

Signed. ^^

[animacruor]

I feel like "I'm" the one being off topic here....anyway...*Sign*

[MadMaligor]

Elanareon wrote...

Don't be ridiculous. The Morrigan story will be continued yes but don't get your hopes up that your pc will be there! Too manu choices to continue with the same PC. What i think will happen is the next antagonist will be the gos child or you yourself will be the godchild. TBH that's why i don't like open ended stories. There's little possibility of continuing it. If it did it's vague and not the same story anymore.

An expansion can easily capitalize on the open end.  Writing script to include questions regarding how the PC ended events, or check original choices in the first run through is simple.  Pop in some optional dialogue at points for each variable and "Walla!" your on the road again.

Going from lvl 20(ish) to lvl 30(ish) is balance ready.

A true sequel, lets say "Dragon Age:Blood Wars" or something along those lines, where you are an original character is a bit more open-ended.  The thing is, most fans will have played through a couple of different ways, and those that only played it one way, one time, will still accept a differing storyline, so long as it fits.  You could even be as vague as to just reference a child born of a union between the witch of the forest and a Warden.  This could happen even if Morrigan is killed by Flemeth.

[Sarevok Anchev]

Elanareon wrote...

Don't be ridiculous. The Morrigan story will be continued yes but don't get your hopes up that your pc will be there! Too manu choices to continue with the same PC. What i think will happen is the next antagonist will be the gos child or you yourself will be the godchild. TBH that's why i don't like open ended stories. There's little possibility of continuing it. If it did it's vague and not the same story anymore.

^ This
It should be difficult to explain, how your highlevel char will start from the beginning in DA:O 2.
... still there is the Gothic-solution: Sailing ship crashes and you get washed onto an mystic island+ lost all your memory.
THEN I WOULD EVEN PREFER  the cliche of the Godchild as an PC...

[kaiki01]

*sign*

[Rhystic1]

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[tkaz85]

The Angry One wrote...

Vicious wrote...

Is utterly blown away that you would dare to destroy the Anvil of the Void.

As much as I hate agreeing with the evil witch, this one does make sense. Golems are effective weapons against the darkspawn. While the process of creating them is questionable, it's a means to an end. Like, you know, Grey Wardens tainting themselves.
More extreme, sure. But outright destroying it is a silly luddite solution that helps no one.

I believe the main argument for destroying the Anvil isn't that the creation of golems involves horrible things (which it does), but that it has a massive potential to be abused.  Carridin himself was sacrificed to the Anvil over a political dispute with the Dwarven king.  Carridin, a Paragon!

[OzzyMcRcky]

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[ZuuZuu]

I posted this on a forum the other day, despite thinking after it didn't quite make sense in the way I put it but whatever

A possible sequel could be the invasion by Orlais on Ferelden. Firstly, it would be the perfect opportunity to allow everyone to carry on as their PC with as many characters Bioware wanted to bring back. Secondly, the epilogues say [dependent on the ending] Morrigan either goes to Orlais, or is heading past the Frostback Mountains [towards Orlais]. This 'invasion' would be the perfect opportunity to destroy the new religion from it's HQ, which is is Orlais if I read the codex right, and bring back the Old God Religion [or something to that effect].

This would allow the perfect opportunity for the PC to conclude his/her story with Morrigan. Killing her to prevent it from happening [and inturn the child?] & perhaps for revenge I know some of the people here want! Or siding with her and destroying the Chantry. Or a new character could be influenced depending on if Alistair slept with Morrigan in your DAO game etc etc.

What I particularly like about this is that the start is completly open. Want to continue as your DAO PC? Fits in fine. Did you PC die at the end of DAO? It wouldn't be hard to alter the game to put in references to your character, through both the setting and the dialogue. Or a new character will fit in easily, another 'origins' starter showing why there is a Dwarf noble in Denerim wouldn't be hard to fit in. Due to the fact the story itself is basically completely different, but with just the Morrigan part so it continues on from the first game.

Opinions?

EDIT: Just had a thoughts about this plot. It would make more sense if for whatever reason Ferelden & Orlais were on the brink of war with both lands ready to fight. This would allow the plot to develop with Alistair having a increasing hatred of Orlais, ala Loghain without Alistair coming to this conclusion himself till a appriopiate realisation.

The playable character in the game could simply be traveling to Orlais as a diplomat of sorts for Ferelden to try and discourage or halt any potention war. Your random encounters could be fulfilled with Orleisans trying to assassinate the character! The one idea I had with this was that while all this was going on Morrigan was slowly putting the pieces together to destroy the chantry and have the child/Old God's religion resurrected[probably not the best word but you hopefully get the idea of what I mean]. This could/would create mass conflicts between both Ferelden, Orlais and the other lands of Thedas both against each other and within themselves. Then something big happens that ends the war, if I was writing this as a fan fiction [tempting!] I would probably put it as if the character sides with Morrigan or not, such as killing her and the Old God, to end the war. Another reason why I like this story is how the original main plot is overtaken by something much bigger at the end instead of a linear "Oh do this that and whatever and the war won't happen. The end.".

Modifié par ZuuZuu, 29 novembre 2009 - 06:36 .

[trh5001]

Personally I'd like to find her kill her and raise the old god child as my own.

[Malkut]

The Angry One wrote...

As much as I hate agreeing with the evil witch, this one does make sense. Golems are effective weapons against the darkspawn. While the process of creating them is questionable, it's a means to an end. Like, you know, Grey Wardens tainting themselves.
More extreme, sure. But outright destroying it is a silly luddite solution that helps no one.

Yeah, but you're overlooking the fact that the Grey Wardens aren't traitorous, coniving morons who've lost everything but one city, a city who's streets are currently strewn with corpses due to an entirely self-administered dose of social anarchy.

Nevermind the Anvil; the dwarves should probably be kept away from all sharp objects at all times for their own safety and the safety of others.

[eternalnightmare13]

RunCDFirst wrote...

I'd only support Morrigan DLC if the option to kill her was present.

Slowly...kill her slowly.

[EmperorSahlertz]

It strikes me that a lot of people are ready to write Morrigan's child off as evil or a demon child almost immediately. None of us have any idea of what it will be, perhaps it will be the best thing that ever happened to the world? Perhaps the Old God of Beauty will finally show the corrupt and evil chantry for what it is?

A lot of people appears to have eaten the Chantry propaganda raw, and actually don't just believe anymore, they KNOW that the old gods were all evil...

[Chaosy]

*signed*

[Kolaris8472]

Orogun01 wrote...

Did the same as and yet I don't want it to change. Hopeless romances are so beautiful, why would you soil the beauty of you PC spending all of his life searching for Morrigan with a DLC.

1st page quotes summing up my feelings exactly...hoorah.

I mean, if we keep the same characters into a second game, I'll gladly take up my search for her, but...not in a DLC. That would be rushing it and weaken the relationship completely.

[ZuuZuu]

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Orogun01 wrote...

Did the same as and yet I don't want it to change. Hopeless romances are so beautiful, why would you soil the beauty of you PC spending all of his life searching for Morrigan with a DLC.

1st page quotes summing up my feelings exactly...hoorah.

I mean, if we keep the same characters into a second game, I'll gladly take up my search for her, but...not in a DLC. That would be rushing it and weaken the relationship completely.

Yeah I completely agree. I mean if you add the amount of topics on forum across the internet regarding this, there are thousands of people who want to see what happens with Morrigan. But the amount they can fit on a DLC will just not do it justice, a sequel will probably be in order, with perhaps a DLC that hints at what happens nearer the release date for DA2 [if DA2 concerns Morrigan at all that is].