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Alex Savchovsky

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The Angry One wrote...

Quite untrue, remember her tale about how that Chasind guy got arrested by some caravan guards when she played the innocent little girl against his raving accusations?
An easy mark, to be sure. But she has had practice, and knows how to pull a man's strings.


A single performance is hardly enough practice to make a decent actress... or so I would think. And as far as we know, she mostly stayed in the Wilds.
As I said - it is possible, but I find it unlikely.

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I don't want any DLC, even though the ending was sad (I also romanced her, but I chose not to have the baby. I was willing to sacrifice myself.



Not only that, but we all know the DLC won't give you or any one else a sense of resolution, you'll still end up wanting more of a connection. For the sake of the plot and imminent sequel, Morrigan's location and what she is doing must remain a mystery.

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Sure Morrigan is a manipulator or would like to think herself one, but she also admits if you romance her that she never planned on falling in love with the PC and that makes her going through with the ritual ( and leaving the PC in the end) more difficult than it was supposed to be. Heck, Leliana seems to be a more apt manipulator of men than Morrigan and a better "actress" given her past.



If Morrigan really is a super cunning manipulator of men, then I guess she could just have been faking it when she acts all confused and conflicted over her feelings for the PC, but I doubt it. There is obviously a ton more we don't know about Morrigan and Flemeth for that matter, so I want to find out more about them in any expansion/sequel.

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Mikazukinoyaiba2 wrote...

I don't want any DLC, even though the ending was sad (I also romanced her, but I chose not to have the baby. I was willing to sacrifice myself.

Not only that, but we all know the DLC won't give you or any one else a sense of resolution, you'll still end up wanting more of a connection. For the sake of the plot and imminent sequel, Morrigan's location and what she is doing must remain a mystery.


Yeah, I highly doubt we get any DLC directly involving Morrigan, but it would be neat to have some DLC that might further explore Morrigan or Flemeth's past in some way. Maybe exploring the Kocari Wilds some more and getting little snippets of information that might shed a little more light on her upbringing or the truth about Flemeth.

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The Angry One wrote...

How in blazes could she do it without you knowing? It's somewhat hard, especially if you're not playing a man, or are playing a man who doesn't immediately fall for her shallow so-called charms (surely some must exist!).


But if you are a man sleeping with her then it's easy, unless there is some magical aspect to the ritual that they didnt show but she neednt tell you what it's for.  If she was such manipulator she could have made up something you would buy.  But she doesnt do that.  She's open and honest and tells you what will happen.   

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VernRyan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

How in blazes could she do it without you knowing? It's somewhat hard, especially if you're not playing a man, or are playing a man who doesn't immediately fall for her shallow so-called charms (surely some must exist!).


But if you are a man sleeping with her then it's easy, unless there is some magical aspect to the ritual that they didnt show but she neednt tell you what it's for.  If she was such manipulator she could have made up something you would buy.  But she doesnt do that.  She's open and honest and tells you what will happen.   


I never thought of it like that, interesting. Perhaps she isn't a complete manipulative b*****.

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Needs to be in a sequel not DLC.



Besides some people won't have her present in their epilogue saves.

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.

Actually I was thinking more bandagy where we essentially find her and then don't let her escape and get all the answers. Then convince her to come back because she is being stupid.

It's not like she is going to kill you or anything and I know I agree with the OP, I REALLY want to be able to find her because I was very attatched to her and I willnever romance her in this game again because of the ending with her.,

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Anyone that dont see that Morrigan and her child is being set up to be the main focus of an expansion/sequel have not played enough story based rpg's

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I would support DLC 10 years in the future where you have a confrontation with Morrigan, who may or may not be herself in the presence of her demon child.  I can see how that would also be sequel material, but given the way the true paragon good ending goes I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Modifié par Astalder, 06 décembre 2009 - 04:45 .


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Astalder wrote...

I would support DLC 10 years in the future where you have a confrontation with Morrigan, who may or may not be herself in the presence of her demon child.  I can see how that would also be sequel material, but given the way the true paragon good ending goes I'm not sure how I feel about that.


Why 10 years?

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I have not played a male character who romanced Morrigan yet, but reading this thread has got me interested. All I've seen of her is the cold **** side, I find it hard to believe that she would be capable of anything else... Of course, she obviously is, which makes her character quite intriguing.

However, seeing how things go at the end... I don't see how it would be posisble to have a happy ending with her. Say you did manage to track her down? What would you expect to find? Would you live with her in a forest taking care of an Old God baby and live happily ever after? I think not.

Dragon Age in general is a pretty depressing and cruel story of love and betrayal, it didn't go much better for my city elf with Alistair despite my efforts...

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Having not read all 17 pages, my comments are as follows....



I am certain we will see Morrigan again. Bioware wouldnt leave us with a cliff hanger ending in regards to her otherwise. I dont think she will be on our side of things next time we encounter her though. Morrigan serves her own needs and ends above all else. She is cooking something up and Ferelden wont like it....

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VernRyan wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

How in blazes could she do it without you knowing? It's somewhat hard, especially if you're not playing a man, or are playing a man who doesn't immediately fall for her shallow so-called charms (surely some must exist!).


But if you are a man sleeping with her then it's easy, unless there is some magical aspect to the ritual that they didnt show but she neednt tell you what it's for.  If she was such manipulator she could have made up something you would buy.  But she doesnt do that.  She's open and honest and tells you what will happen.   


For all you know the ritual requires awareness and consent on the part of the male.

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The Angry One wrote...
For all you know the ritual requires awareness and consent on the part of the male.


I don't remember such a thing, but maybe I missed something. Could you provide some references?

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?


It sounds to me David that you cornered yourself with Morrigans plot/romance possiblitys. Have fun making a intelligent and interesting continuation of that character. You left yourself plenty of canvas but the "Morrigan" colors and brushes seem fairly limited.

You want to go darker, knock yourself out but don't expect applause next time around rather a yawn. Why? Her character seems all too predictable.

A) Goes Nutz(whatever reason)
B) Enslaved by child
C) Flemeth Strikes back
D) Crusade for freedom(laughable)

You make a story that doesn't include any of those theorys and you win, but you won't.

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A DLC wouldn't do justice to the potential this storyline has. It's sequel-worthy stuff.



I would imagine that no matter how Morrigan may feel about your character, your showing up would probably just make her want to kill you. Sure, it'd be nice to get some answers from her but I cannot imagine a generic happy ending when it comes to Morrigan. Like she said, she has her own desires and if they coincide with yours, good.

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MassEffect762 wrote...
It sounds to me David that you cornered yourself with Morrigans plot/romance possiblitys. Have fun making a intelligent and interesting continuation of that character. You left yourself plenty of canvas but the "Morrigan" colors and brushes seem fairly limited.

You want to go darker, knock yourself out but don't expect applause next time around rather a yawn. Why? Her character seems all too predictable.

A) Goes Nutz(whatever reason)
B) Enslaved by child
C) Flemeth Strikes back
D) Crusade for freedom(laughable)

You make a story that doesn't include any of those theorys and you win, but you won't.


It's not fair to condemn the guy for a game that hasn't come out yet. Who knows what he has planned?

There are plenty of places to take the story that could be very compelling and not involve any of those. The character is well developed in this game - some faith is in order that the team knows what they are doing.

I'd be as disappointed as anyone if the story didn't continue the relationship between Morrigan and the PC and allow for them to remain united (I would be a shame to not continue it regardless of the romantic choices you made during the game - there could be excellent development with them as friends as well), but it's clear there is a plan for the character that we just don't know about yet. A bit more info would be nice, sure - but keep in mind this character didn't happen by accident.

Plus getting to write a reunion is an awesome chance for juicy drama. Who can resist that?

Modifié par Driveninhifi, 07 décembre 2009 - 03:48 .


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Driveninhifi wrote...


It's not fair to condemn the guy for a game that hasn't come out yet. Who knows what he has planned?

There are plenty of places to take the story that could be very compelling and not involve any of those. The character is well developed in this game - some faith is in order that the team knows what they are doing.


Definitely.  I could see a take on the Connor storyline but cranked up to 11.  Can you teach the god childe to be god and kind to humanity or does it turn and try and destroy them?

Or the God childe could be self aware from the get go and have things it wants that it cant achieve on it's own and needs the pc's help.

Or Morrigan/Flemeth could be raising it/planning to control it for their own ends which could be nefarious or not.

Plenty of ways it could go.

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.


I don't know. I am not sure what or how the reunion should happen but I seriously doubt she would fight the PC for simply saying...."I found you and I'm not going anywhere. You can't run from me either so start talking." Well not an exact quote but you get the general idea of my intent. Basically facing Morrigan with the fact that as long as the PC lives she'll just have to get along with him and make room for him in her plans. It isn't a perfect reunion nor is it a great ugly drama ending. It's just......well learning to get along. As to what her plans are and whether or not there was more she hid about the part with Flemeth well I can't anticipate the reaction to those things since I don't exactly know what she intends nor do I think she told everything about Flemeth.

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I'm pretty sure most people see Morrigan as property, or some sort of prize. Like a suit of unique armor that steals your sperm and runs away.

How would any of us feel if our main tank's Juggernaut armor decided to book it in the middle of the night for no good reason? I, for one, would demand answers... and violence. Mostly violence.

I sign this petition under the condition that killing Morrigan and/or getting my stuff back is an option. :devil:

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Considering the game literally says "Morrigan's plans remain a mystery...for now" and immediately follows that up with "It wouldn't be last Ferelden heard of " it seems pretty obvious they've got something planned.



And, personally, it's the character development I'm interested in the most. That's part of the disappointment for me - it was going along so nicely and then ended too quickly. You can say that, yeah, making the player passively accept Morrigan's decision feels disingenuous with the influence you are given on the rest of the game (which I do think it does), but I'm more disappointed we don't get to see the interaction between her and the PC continue, as that's really what I found intriguing about the character.

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I'm rather interested in seeing some manner of resolution to the whole Morrigan/ godchild thing, but not for the OP's reason. I kinda despised Morrigan for being a flat, arbitrarily evil idiot unable to see that just because an action assists someone doesn't mean it can't be self-motivated. I have no interest in Morrigan herself-- bi*ch can rot for all I care...



I want to chat up the freaking physical god she's got in the oven. And possibly kill it again, if it proves susceptible to the taint (did it once, after all, and this time it doesn't have a dragon body to make things difficult).

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.


LOL well said!

Personally I hope you all leave Morrigan outta the DLC stuff (unless your expanding her story before she leaves in the game) as she and child are obviously set up for future Dragon Age game! Im guessing DA:O3 as this suppose to be a trilogy!

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Doc Faust wrote...

I'm rather interested in seeing some manner of resolution to the whole Morrigan/ godchild thing, but not for the OP's reason. I kinda despised Morrigan for being a flat, arbitrarily evil idiot unable to see that just because an action assists someone doesn't mean it can't be self-motivated. I have no interest in Morrigan herself-- bi*ch can rot for all I care...

I want to chat up the freaking physical god she's got in the oven. And possibly kill it again, if it proves susceptible to the taint (did it once, after all, and this time it doesn't have a dragon body to make things difficult).


Morrigan was many things, FLAT was not one of them :PPP heh