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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.

Many things could happen, but i hope for a happy ending.

Considering that SPOILERS

BG2: Romance Viconia, she dies
Planescape: You get sent to another place for eternity, away from Fall-From-Grace and that other chick
Neverwinter: Aribeth dies
NWN2:Hordes of underdark: only game with happy ending.

I don't think people care so much what happens so long as there is a happy ending in the end.

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Vanatos wrote...Neverwinter: Aribeth dies


In the original campaign you can save her and it's left ambigous.
In Hordes of the Underdark... well.. Hordes of the Underdark never happened.

NEVER.
HAPPENED.

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.


Seeing as my character is dead, I can't track her down at all. Though, given the opportunity, I'd rise from my grave just to gut her.

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?


There would be several things to think about. Did the Warden give her the Black Grimoire? Did he/she go and get Flemeths Grimoire for Morrigan? Without those two things, Morrigan will have never learned to actually possess the God-Child as Flemeth would possess her daughters.

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.


Honestly.. I think it would be better NOT to find her.. I mean a DLC where you search for her would be great.. but maybe you don't exactly find her. Maybe you run across an old hut she was using, surrounded by Darkspawn.. or maybe Templars that caught on her trail who found a note inside. The note giving a little more insight into what she plans, if you romanced her, or became really good friends, how she feels regret for running, but still stands by her decision. Possibly mad and yet happy you're looking for her without any real hope of finding her. Of course, she's long gone from the hut, and you'll never find her. I'd rather have a DLC where you find out what it is she's exactly planning.. or just remove some of the confusion about what happend? Just throwing it up there is all.

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Modifié par Kalamity_Jones, 23 novembre 2009 - 12:00 .


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Morrigan gets captured and turned into a brood mother. Most evil ending of them all!!

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I think Flemeths is helping darkspawns... i mean how did she save you from the tower in ostagar... how she get true horde of darkspawns...


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Signed for more Morrigan.

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i'd like a morrigan dlc

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Serotax wrote...

I think Flemeths is helping darkspawns... i mean how did she save you from the tower in ostagar... how she get true horde of darkspawns...


Considering a nubby Grey Warden who's hardly even out of diapers can fight through the tower I don't think it be that much of a challenge for Flemeth to change in to a Dragon, grab the player and alistair with it's claws and take them back to the camp.

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I am all for a Morrigan DLC ... even a Morrigan dressed in a baggy turtleneck and loose overalls.

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The Angry One wrote...
In the original campaign you can save her and it's left ambigous.
In Hordes of the Underdark... well.. Hordes of the Underdark never happened.

NEVER.
HAPPENED.

Your right i guess but

It did happen :(

I was also peeved off that your NWN1 character is not your NWN2 character

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As much as I became attached to Morrigan as a character and companion, I can appreciate the idea that nothing lasts forever. The romance with Morrigan is intended to be something that while it could not last forever was still special. I think that was what the writers were going for.



Nonetheless, I add my signature to this thread, I think it would certainly be an interesting idea to see what happened to her.

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Shar888 wrote...

As much as I became attached to Morrigan as a character and companion, I can appreciate the idea that nothing lasts forever. The romance with Morrigan is intended to be something that while it could not last forever was still special. I think that was what the writers were going for.

Nonetheless, I add my signature to this thread, I think it would certainly be an interesting idea to see what happened to her.


I would have no problem with that but it is not what we were given. We got a story with a giant hole at the end that was clearly the set up for further development.

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I personally cant see how they can make a whole game out of it - not everybody romanced Morrigan... If they made a game based around the baby of Morrigan even tho alot of us probably refused to sleep with her like I did and she left before the battle without being pregnant, then suddenly next game you being told the way you played was wrong... I wouldnt really like that tbh.



I would prefer a well made lengthy DLC - that changes depending on how Morrigan left you. That way it would fit in with everybodies game and story.

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No matter how much the story and fate of Morrigan touched me, i cannot
see a happy ending or a continuing story to this.  I myself see the hero
spending years in agonying heartbreak, wondering the lands in search
of his love, looking in every village, every cottage or farm, but never finding
the love he lost.

He lost his family to betrayal, he lost his friends to the darkspawn,
and finally, he lost his mind to love.

Love will break even the strongest of hearts.

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Thats your lame hero. Mine is off partying with Zevran.

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hurricaneez1 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.


To me it doesnt have to be a "happy" ending. I could see maybe something like you find her only to discover that the kid has turned into a evil demon and you and Morrigan get killed trying to stop it....which could lead into the main quest of Dragon Age 2.

I honestly dont think anyone is looking for the PC and Morrigan to settle down in Flemeth's hut to raise babies and live happily ever after. I would, however, like to see some closure.....especially since at the end of the game you are given the option of going after her. To do that and not follow thru would be kinda weak IMO.



I agree a 100% with you hurricaneez1, so with that I also agree that there would be nice with a Morrigan DLC :)

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I must say I am relieved to see Mr. Gaider viewing this thread and the subject in general with a good deal of skepticism.

Tying Morrigan down with some PC who is trying to 'tame' her (whether they consciously realize it or not) would be the worst betrayal of her character and what she represents. The end was excellent, and whatever they do in the future, I hope it maintains a similar tone. Once, just for once, let a primal force of nature not be desecrated, raped, violated.

Modifié par marshalleck, 23 novembre 2009 - 02:08 .


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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.


Since my pc was firend with and will raise from the dead to search her... She will mostly want answers and may want to kill her.

If my pc was her firend and was saved by the ritual... she would like to have some news from Morrigan, if she is all right and if she need anything. She would like to visit her as a good "firend".

Seriously ? I think, that's point less to make a reunion because Morrigan would care less unless and would see you as a threat.<_<

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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.


Okay. I'll take a crack at this, if only for fun...

PC Origin: Human Mage/Arcane Warrior/Blood Mage, having romanced Morrigan; She has had your child.

5 years after the game ends, you continue to search for your lost love. You made 2 kings, saved the Circle, the Elves, and killed an archdemon all in one year, yet it's been half a decade and still she has managed to evade you. The hunt has been exhausting to the point of madness. Your once-allies have all fallen by the wayside. King Alistair and Anora his Queen rule Ferelden in tandem, his optimism and her practicality guiding the nation into a time of hopeful prosperity following the Blight. But darker tides approach Ferelden...

Wynne stayed on to advise the new king for a time. She died 2 years ago, having imparted a sense of justice and equality in Ferelden's ruling body toward Mages. Her position as High Magus, advisor to the King, has been granted to another mage from the Tower, a young prodigy whose carefully-masked ambitions may spell doom for the new respect the Circle has received in recent years.

Sten returned to his homeland almost immediately, his sword in-hand and his pack filled to bursting with pastry recipes. When asked about the latter, he would not speakon the subject.

You parted company with Liliana in Haven 9 months after you were named Hero of Ferelden. While she was willing to follow you for a time, she remained torn between her desires for peace and adventure. As your obession with finding Morrigan became increasingly evident, Liliana saw in you what madness would be found in the search for excitement. She left for Andraste's Temple, rebuilt by the Chantry, and was gravely injured when the temple was destroyed. While her body is permanently damaged, her spirit remains strong. She prays for you nightly, pleading with the Maker to give you strength to resist both the love spell Morrigan surely placed upon you and the insanity of the Taint gestating within you.

Your last conversation with your friend King Alistair was a year ago when he swore you had been posessed by Morrigan as surely as if she were a demon of the Fade. Believing the Taint within you had weakened you to her madness, and in an attempt to save you from yourself, Alistair dispatched a phalanx of Templars from the Chantry to bring you in.

You slaughtered 49 of the 50 men sent against you. The last you spared to take a message back to your former fellow Grey Warden: "Remember who made you, King of Ferelden." Your noble friend the King sought only to aid you, but in so doing has turned you into a fugitive of both Church and nation. Anora, whose keen mind foresaw this inevitability, did nothing to prevent it. She has hated you for years, and the chance to drive a wedge between the throne and theso-called Hero of Ferelden was a welcome one.

Shale left 2 years ago, returning to Orzimmar when one of Bhelen's emissaries requested her pesence. She went to guard the new Dwarven King, taking the request as a sign of honor. In truth he used her as a symbol of progress, vowing she was the first of a new group of Golems with Free Will. But Bhelen was always one to hedge his bets. Even as he paraded Shale as a symbol of the future, he secretly had a new control rod fashioned for her. Few know of its existence, or if he has ever used it.

Ironically it was the Antivan assassin who remained at your side longest. In truth this was due entirely to the fact that he had nothing else pressing, and was amused by your obsession with the witch. After helping you kill Alistair's Templars, Zevran finally voiced his concern, stating that there are so many in the world to warm one's bed, why hunt one who is clearly so unwilling to be found?

You simply narrowed your eyes, nodded and walked off sadly. The former assassin did not follow.

So it is down to you and your trusty Mabari hound Krom. Krom is the only one who has never judged you. He is the only one still by your side. And as you stand outside the Korkari Wilds with him, it occurs to you that the last 5 years have taken a toll. You began your search here in the Korkari. When that yeilded nothing you heard something about Morrigan from the Frostbacks. Following rumor after rumor you have crossed much of the known world, always with the same result: Nothing. It seemed Morrigan would never allow herself to be found, even when you could occasionally feelher regret and longing for you.

But the child, it seems, has become your trail of bread crumbs. As the child has grown into its power, you have begun to see him in dreams. Like the dreams from the Archdemon, you followed the boy's psychic casting-out. You've spoken with him a number of times over the last months, and now know he and his mother are here in the Wilds. You've also stopped wearing Morrigan's Ring, since you're fairly certain she's been keeping a step ahead of you via its power from the beginning. The ring remains precious to you, and is currently held in a magically-warded box in your pack to prevent her feeling its presence.

The boy, your son, has been frightened recently by several attacks from Darkspawn, who have also been drawn to the child by the dreams. Morrigan has returned to the Wilds -- her place of Power -- in an effort to defend against them.

As you step into the Forest, you steel yourself for a fight. You would gladly aid Morrigan against the Darkspawn as she aided you so long ago. But you know her well, and likely her pride would never allow her to ask it of you. Or perhaps she seeks to use the boy to ensnare the Darkspawn under herself... But that doesn't sound like Morrigan, really, or so you hope. Perhaps all this was really to try and redeem the spirit of the Old God, now in your son, from the Taint. Whatever the answers might be, they await within the Wilds.

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So you battle through the Korkari Wilds., hound at your side, through hordes of giant spiders, attacking trees, wolves, and bears. Eventually you face Morrigan herself, and in the calm of a break in the battle, you call out to her "We need not do this, Morrigan! I'm not here to harm you!"

She looks tired. Raising a child isn't easy, especially on your own, and being always on the run makes it that much worse. "I warned you, Warden! I told you not to follow me! 'Tis no chance encounter that brings you here today. I sent my son to draw you to me, in this place, that I can end your dogged hunt for me once and for all!"

The battle is long and exhausting. You send Krom to find the boy early on; maybe the sight of her son will soften Morrigan's heart. Krom has yet to return.Thankfully you know her well, and came prepared for her cold spells. Your armor is enchanted to resist her...

But eventually, over an hour into the fight, you realize your heart is not. This is the woman you loved, once, not so very long ago. And as you battle against her, all the familiar spells and battlecries you once took comfort in having at your back are now levied against you. And it occurs to you, she killed you 5 years ago. Answers or not, right or not, you loved her. And she loved you. Surely she had her duty as well... You had to fight the Archdemon, and she felt just as strongly that she had to have this child. You don't know the full breadth of her plan, and the fact that she felt she couldn't trust you with it hurts worst of all.

Maker damn you, you love her still.

You cast Force Field around yourself and reach into your pack. She watches, pain and anger burning sharp lines into her perfect face as she downs a health poultice and casts a handful of spells in preparation of resuming the battle. "You're holding back, Warden," she says, and her voice is milk and honey. "I can tell. You can't kill me, and I can't let you take my son. This will be the end of one of us."

"Is that what you think this is about?" you ask, unfastening your enchanted gauntlets. "Morrigan, I'm not here to take the boy. I... I want to know him. He's my son! But I'm here for you. I just... I want to be with you. Whatever you're doing out here, with OUR son... I want to be part of it. I want to protect you both. If I can find you, others can as well. I can sense the Darkspawn as they seek him out. They're moving all the time now. I can tell."

"I..." she hesitates for a moment. Fireballs and arrows she was prepared for, but honest emotion was always outside her element. The hesitation doesn't last. "No! You were a useful tool. A means to an end. And the boy is too important to risk on my own desire!"

"So you admit you desire me still," you allow yourself a half-smile. It feels strange, like it's been too long since you used those muscles. You remove Morrigan's Ring from its box and slip it on. Funny that it feels more familiar than your own smile.

You then pull a dagger from her pack and let your unstrapped breastplate drop to the ground with a dull clank. The duration of the Force Field expires, and as it fades, she makes the last motion to cast Blizzard. The sudden snowstorm bites through your padded undershirt. She is a powerful mage, and you stand before her defenseless, in only your leg armor and boots and a padded shirt. Your muscles scream as you fight through the stinging cold towards her.

"Morrigan, I'm here for you both or not at all!" you cry out over the blizzard. Suddenly you can't tell which hurts more, the cold or the fact that she's causing it. "But you'll not leave me again! I'll find you; I've proven that much!"

"DAMN you, Warden!!" Her voice is a shriek of anguish. Maybe she can't kill you, either. But she'll have to, or you'll hound her endlessly. "You cannot be a part of it! You don't understand what you say!"

"Dammit, witch! I love you! I need understand no more than that!" And with that you're upon her. She looks down at your hand over hers, the handle of your dagger thrust into her grip. The point of the blade stings as it presses into your chest where you placed it yourself. Your words are whispers in the snowstorm, but she hears them well enough. "Now kill me, beloved, or stand at my side once again."

And with that you kiss her. It might be your last act in this life, or it might save what's left of your soul and hers. She'll stab you, or she won't. But as you lean into her, you can see the worn leather strap around her neck. It's a simple cord worn to a shine and bound tight to her throat, and it's not been removed often, if ever. The twin to your ring hangs there at her throat, and she doesn't resist your kiss.

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Of course she then stabs our hero in the heart LITERALLY this time, since doing so figuratively wasn't enough to keep him off her tail. And the kid killed and ate the dog. But there you go. Heh.

Of course, that's just my take. Got a bit more long-winded than I originally intended, but it was fun, anyway.

;)

Modifié par CimmerianJester, 23 novembre 2009 - 02:30 .


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David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?


I did romance her but chose Lelianna when made too but became good friends with her. I also died at the end so I could never search for her but if I could,

I would like to have shown her that the way she is, cynical and callous is a product of how Flemeth brought her up, remember she says about her childhood stories giving her nightmares. I want to show her that there is another way to live. I genuinely liked her and was thankful for her help. I did not blame her, I blamed Flameth.

So  to be able to undertake some quests and have speech with her that could leave her a warmer, nicer person that can have normal relationships and understands and  feels (more) compassion would be  nice. The flip side could be you corrupt her emotional abilities even further, creating a true monster if you went about it the wrong way.

I'm sure she would say, tis was all foolish talk.

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From this site, it seems hard to imagine Morrigan in an expansion too : http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Epilogue



* Morrigan can be killed by Flemeth if Flemeth was spared by the Grey Warden.

* Morrigan was last seen traveling the Frostback Mountains, possibly with child.

* If the Grey Warden has romanced Morrigan and in possession of her ring he can sense her and her regret through the ring.

* Morrigan can disappear and a woman of her description becomes an advisor to the Queen of Orlais.

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Truthfully I don't see much of a chance of DLC containing Morrigans story resolution. The save is set before the end game, if they planned to continue the story with DLC this would not be the case.

If they decide to continue the PC story through expansions/sequels, the only way I can see Morrigan being back in any meaningful way is if she needs the PC for something. And really the only thing that would require her needing the PC is if someone steals the child(Flemeth/Chantry/Darkspawn).

The problem with this of course being, not everyone is going to care. I'm talking male PCs here, because Alistair would definitely care given his character, which would volunteer the female PCs. But then there are those that romanced Leliana/Zevran instead and those that spared Loghain.... The writers must get a headache thinking about all this.

David Gaider wrote...
I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.



Curiosity killed the cat. Personally I would expect any reunion to be out of necessity rather than love/desire.

Modifié par Malsumis, 23 novembre 2009 - 02:27 .