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[Shady314]

Forget Morrigan for a second, I just don't want to be a deadbeat dad. I'll search for MY CHILD till the day I die.

[Sarevok Anchev]

isnt it obvious...
this whole Special Child with enigmatic Witch storyending is MADE for
Dragon Age 2.
You "just" killed the Archdemon. What about the Black Palace in the Fade?
The strange Wardens in Weisshaupt? The "Athkatlan-style" of Orlais' Val Royeaux?

Sounds for me much like Dragon Age was the Prologue to a story that "copies" Baldurs Gate 1+2
Only that this time Gorion is a woman

Modifié par Sarevok Anchev, 23 novembre 2009 - 10:15 .

[Element CL]

Sarevok Anchev wrote...

isnt it obvious...
this whole Special Child with enigmatic Witch storyending is MADE for
Dragon Age 2.
You "just" killed the Archdemon. What about the Black Palace in the Fade?
The strange Wardens in Weisshaupt? The "Athkatlan-style" of Orlais' Val Royeaux?

Sounds for me much like Dragon Age was the Prologue to a story that "copies" Baldurs Gate 1+2
Only that this time Gorion is a woman

The black city would kinda be the Holy Grail of stories in the Dragon Age series, I hope they save THAT for the last one. 

[Sarevok Anchev]

...hmmm... the more i think about it.... all seems to reflect the Baldurs Gate series.

The black city reminds me of the Throne of Bhaal. Who will be "Irenicus" in Dragon Age 2

and who will be Melissan in Dragon Age 3 ? *g

[Vilegrim]

David Gaider wrote...

Just as a question, let's say you romanced Morrigan and you *did* chase after her once the story is over. What would you expect to happen if you found her?

I find it hard to believe that you would honestly expect a reunion where you run towards each other across a field of grass, arms open to sweep each other up? Morrigan says, "you found me, you big silly! I know I told you to never come after me, but I was totally wrong!" And then you go off to raise your demon baby in a nice cottage with a white picket fence?

Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.

for me, answers and maybe a chance knowing your child, if only for a while, it may be necessary that you do leave and never come back, a convincing reason why would be good (beyond 'that would be unwise) so yea don't expect white picket fences and domestic bliss, but want the oppurtunity to at least find answers, maybe stay to help (but I doubt that is possible, it appears to have been setup that way) hell at worst speak to Morrigan and your child, before the calling takes you. Iif all it can be is a proper goodbye then so be it.   


Actually the more I think about it, the more it sounds like the origin story of a sequel, or a full blown expansion than a DLC, 

Modifié par Vilegrim, 23 novembre 2009 - 10:57 .

[GarouM]

I promised Morrigan I wouldn't go after her. Why should I betray that promise? We'll always have Redcliffe.

[Shady314]

You promised not to follow her. Not that you'd never run into her again. ;-) Alternately you can always claim you followed your child and she just happened to be going the same way.

[GarouM]

I don't know. She said that I would never see her again. Repeatedly. Running into her, while possible, would be.. weird. But there's probably little chance of that for my character, as he chose to travel with Sten after he defeated the Archdemon.



But then, I'm a sucker for bitter endings.

[Shady314]

What is Morrigan now God? She doesn't see the future or control it. She only means she's not going to let you see her. Not that it is somehow magically impossible or something.



Anyways my point was that even if you made an arrangement with her you can still wriggle out on technicalities.

[Element CL]

Am I really the only one who thinks Morrigan would do a little soul searching after her Mother's betrayal comes to light and then end up completely and utterly lost?

Modifié par Element CL, 23 novembre 2009 - 11:26 .

[MoSa09]

David Gaider wrote...
Or you think that, having found her, she will answer questions for you then? Do you intend to offer child support, what? I know that you were hoping for something *more* -- but that's part of the point. I obviously have my own ideas on where the story will go, but now I'm just really curious as to what sort of romantic reunion is being pictured here.

Honestly, that would have been funny but quite unbelievable if she'd rush into your arms and simply answers your question.

Me, i have no special image in mind how a possible reunion would look like. But i can say for those of us who loved to romance and where depressed by her departure: what made her romance so rewarding for us was the effort and energy you have to put in that relationship to see it growing just a little bit. I said it somewhere before, romancing her was a tough fight, a real battle for the better part of her soul. That's where the reward and the loss come from in the end, i have earned myself her saying she loves  trough my hard work i put into her.

For a possible reunion. i personally would like to contiue that path. She will probably really be pissed that you found her, and it won't start with them being happily in love with each other, on the contrary, that would be hilarious. They have a very complicated relationship going on, and it's gotten even more complicated since she left the player after telling him she loves him. I would love to  start where this left us, in a coplicated relationship, where maybe the hurt feelings of the PC and her sorrow and regret for leaving will further complicate their personal mixture.

I would really like to get to a bright ending with her (for those who romance her of course, those who hate her have every right to reach their own personal end with her like they want it imo). But i would want to be a tough fight like it was in DAO, maybe even tougher like the situation is even more complicated now. As much as i earned me her her love, i want to earn me that within this sequel that she will not leave me and we will reach and ending together. This will of course inculde some major up's and down and heavy decisions, maybe between her and the rest of your party or something like that. As she and the relationship developed in DAO, i personally would like to see the same development happening with a sequel/dlc or whatever.
And to come to an end, their first meeting after her leaving would probably end in a bitter fight of accusations where both end up even more heartbroken than before, and coming to terms with her and her reasons as well as for her with her feeling will be a long and hard process from both of them to finally get the reward (bright ending) in the end for both of them.
Just my own thoughts of cause how i, one who liked the romance option, would like it to be continued.

[GarouM]

Of course she' can't control the future, and I'm not suggesting that a future meeting with her would be impossible. Keep in mind that this is just my interpretation of my player character and his relationship with Morrigan, but I prefer to treasure that relationship while it lasted and not cheapen it by pursuing her (or the child) against her wishes. I find the Morrigan romance beautifully written, and an ending where you never see her again seems absolutely fitting. "You are going to regret this, and so am I. But perhaps this is as it must be" - this line just sums it up for me. But again, I like my bittersweet endings.



That being said, I can fully understand other players' desire to seek her out and get some kind of closure with her, after the final battle. The only thing I would have liked to see is one last farewell after the battle.

[Shar888]

After reading the text at the end of the epilogue and David Gaider's comments I'd speculate that bumping into Morrigan in a sequel is much more likely. There certainly seems to be a door left wide open for the most revered Grey Warden in 400 years to be called upon to face some new threat. As for if they died, I haven't played an ending where the PC dies yet but it is quite possible that you could be revived by a good spirit within the fade, similar to what happened to Wynne.

[LynxAQ]

Alot of you speak as tho everybody chose to have a child with Morrigan. Myself and alot of people no doubt never did. I executed Lorghain as I listened to Alistair as I felt he was my PC's best friend and I told Morrigan to get lost when she wanted to have a child.



I would be extremely annoyed if an expansion came along and all of sudden she is pregnant with my child...

[Skellimancer]

/sign for mod to kill Morrigan

[Gragnak]

Signed in!
I agree. I want Morrigan back in my party!!!!

[banner the bloodguard]

Morrigan is just not that interesting to me. If she headed towards me in a field, I'd have my shields up and be ready to spam spells. So far her team contributions in battle have not been that remarkable. Dog/Shale/Leliana/Wynne have (to me) been more productive.

[Fishy]

The Angry One wrote...

Levowitz wrote...

Well let's face it. Morrigan feels regret and sorrow. She misses the main character.

It's cute that you believe that.
I suppose Morrigan is right about men..

Nosuchluck wrote...

IT'S NOT A DEMON KID.

Damnit, don't people ever listen to stuff ingame? It's a pure soul of the Old God. It's not evil.

According to who? Morrigan?
Let's see, an evil witch seeks to concieve a child with darkspawn blood and blood magic.
If that doesn't say devil child to you, what does?

You seriously don't understand the whole character of Morrigan.
She's not evil at all.

When you're in red cliffs she don't want to save the villager.Does that make her Evil or realistic? Actually it's make her character feel more real than the happy goofy character who want to save every kitten.You're trying to save the world .. Not trying to save every damn paysan in the process..You're one of the 2 left Warden in Ferelden.. Risking your life to save a village ... that just make no sense.

The Golem now .. She told you how useful it'scould be .. It's could help against the blight ..What 's evil into that?Why feel guilty for someone that created something you did not?You're here to save the world .. You need asset.

The circle of magi .. Well ... She want to eradicate it .. Why not? They live like Slave and every human being with arcane power are sent in that *golden prison* .. The templar tracker her often .Because of that tower , every other mage are seen has renegade and are tracked down like animals.

also the god baby now .. She told the PC that it's not going to end well and she's no ordinary woman.If it's not clear she has a plan i don't know.

While character like Allistair .. He's Just a zealot who want to save every puppy while doing a mission to save the world.Who's the most stupid?

I find Moriggan to be the most plausible character .
i find it funny that allistair  respect so much Duncan..Yet Duncan Killed Jory like Nothing.I think this zealot haven't learned anything.

[Malsumis]

LynxAQ wrote...

Alot of you speak as tho everybody chose to have a child with Morrigan. Myself and alot of people no doubt never did. I executed Lorghain as I listened to Alistair as I felt he was my PC's best friend and I told Morrigan to get lost when she wanted to have a child.

I would be extremely annoyed if an expansion came along and all of sudden she is pregnant with my child...

That is sort of like saying because Shepard can die in ME2, Bio should not make ME3 where you play Shepard. When clearly if your PC dies that is the end of that characters tale. Not the story. If your PC dies at the end of DA it says that those tales are for other heroes for this story ended with *name* sacrifice.

If you don't do the ritual, it clearly states Morrigan is never seen again. Where if you do it, it states " what happens is a mystery.... for now.

[usualsuspect747]

signed for morrigan full game. Leliana is annoying as all hell. I romance morrigan on every character and drop leliana like a two bit rag.

[Ace Attorney]

DLC for a decision dependant ending (aka it is useless for those who don't accept her offer)? No thanks.

[Alan Rickman]

Forgot to say in my earlier post that after giving it some thought, I really don't want Morrigan's continued story to be resolved through DLC. There's simply too much to cover. That said, I'd still like DLC that would shed SOME light on her motives and work as a prologue and tease for the sequel.

[Wynne]

eyencee wrote...

i say she should be old in a next game and the protagonist should be you as that child /wich would explain the never seen again thing

There are some problems with that idea.

(a) Some players didn't make the deal.
( That child is either a dragon or a powerful new body for either Morrigan or Flemeth, not PC material.
© It would RUIN the idea of "Origins." It would be DA 2: Origin, or Dragon Age: Sorry, No More Origins.
(d) You could NOT play as an elf. The children of elves and humans are always humans, remember? If  Morrigan was an elf it could've worked, but since Morrigan is a human, that would limit character choice significantly.

Unless they go full-on "we're insane enough to do the Mass Effect 2" thing (which would suck if you ask me because it would be waaaaaaaay more work to do {like 6x, in fact} than it was for ME2 for very few player benefits) DA2 would either have to drastically cram its own canon into a box with some dull male human noble as the assumed protagonist of the first game and many other interesting choices reduced to what somebody thought most people picked, or it would have to occur in a whole other setting. Either Tevinter, Orlais, or Ferelden far enough into the future that the choices you made in the first game are no longer so relevant anymore.

So the Morrigan thing... yeah, I know a guy who thought the same thing, but if you think about it a little longer it would not work very well. Limiting player choice and player origin is just simply awful for a setting like this where it's all supposed to matter humongously.

Modifié par Wynne, 23 novembre 2009 - 01:46 .

[Tyrias Greysong]

Wynne wrote...

eyencee wrote...

i say she should be old in a next game and the protagonist should be you as that child /wich would explain the never seen again thing

There are some problems with that idea.

(a) Some players didn't make the deal.
( That child is either a dragon or a powerful new body for either Morrigan or Flemeth, not PC material.
© It would RUIN the idea of "Origins." It would be DA 2: Origin, or Dragon Age: Sorry, No More Origins.
(d) You could NOT play as an elf. The children of elves and humans are always humans, remember? If  Morrigan was an elf it could've worked, but since Morrigan is a human, that would limit character choice significantly.

(e) One Bhaalspawn is more then enough.