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[alperez]

ladyvader wrote...

In the long run, they are better off leaving actually. With Shepard's blessing.  The Cerberus perosonal are in danger themselves by being Cerberus.  The Alliance does have a policy of arresting them if caught.  

Also keep in mind, Mac Walters has stated that is more of an investigation than an actual trial and last a few weeks.

I have no problem with them leaving, for the simple reason its easier to implement, to show each character go through their reactions isn't really something that would work in an opening game sequence, so instead we'll probably get Shepard in a cell as the starting point.

What i'd like though is sometime later some acknowledgement from the characters about how they felt regarding the trial, something like Garrus saying "its just as well those reapers attacked and set you free because i was just about to do the same thing" not exactly that off course but the general jist.

Or a really nice touch would be something like if you romanced Miranda or Jack then while Shepard's waiting around you get a little flashback scene of him telling them they need to go or something like that.

As for it being more of an investigation than an actual trial, considering what hackett said and how it looks in conviction, it sure as hell looks like a trial rather than an investigation.

[1Less2WorryAbout]

CrutchCricket I love your idea of which ways the characters would go. I agree with most of everything you said. However one thing I may not agree on is what direction Samara may go in... Omega seems the likely place that she goes. 1. Because it is a Justicar's prime hunting ground. 2. You can interact with her on Omega in which she states she very well may return there after the mission is over due to the injustice..... Overall I loved your theories.

My own personal stand on the issue? I guess I would need to have it be more clarified whether or not the "trial" is an actual trial before I make any assumptions as a trial or an investigation can change the way the team feels about the situation by just the name itself let alone the actual events between the two differing scenarios... Either way I guess we'll just have to wait a bit longer for more details.

Modifié par 1Less2WorryAbout, 04 novembre 2011 - 04:38 .

[Meesherbeans]

alperez wrote...

Or a really nice touch would be something like if you romanced Miranda or Jack then while Shepard's waiting around you get a little flashback scene of him telling them they need to go or something like that.

For a love interest (regardless of whom your Shepard romanced) that would be so touching, if done well. I wholeheartedly approve.

[Ryuzetsu]

By the numbers, it not only is about what will certain squadmates do at the trial, but who is there at all. Let's say you saved all in ME 2 and you completed the DLC's. Bioware would most likely structure the trail around characters who would not be affected by online presence, as most people who will play this game may or may not be online. So sadly, Zaeed and Kasumi, not at trial. Chakwas, Joker, and Kelly and the rest of the crew day palyers there, insert Joker smart-ass lines here.
Tali,..Definitely there and mouthy if it comes to it (especially if you romanced her).
Garrus, if anybody is more reliable to Shep, show me. He's in.
Grunt, blood oathed, in.
Legion probably stays on the ship.
Jacob, eenh, this ones a tough call, may have gone with Miranda don't think she'd want to be there. But he could have gone back to the Alliance.
Jack, on world but most likely away from the authorities.
Krios, moved on, probably come across him later.
Samara, on Omega as a previous poster described, or most likely back on the asari homeworld.

But to be honest dear forum I don't believe it will get that far, the reaper attack will probably bust the trial before it even begins. The rest of the crew I did not mention (ie. Mordin etc) as the video we've seen, clearly shows that that you will bump into them later.

[Silver77nz]

Your LI is going to have their own reaction to it. Most of them will be supportive especially after they learned you were sent by yourself. You had no backup or help. That has to count for something. They might be pissed that Allience asked you to go in alone. I would believe they know you and know you would never just blow up 300 k  Batarians even if your family was killed on Mindoir. <---try explaining that one

Liara-Ok she is The Shadow Broker!!! She can do pretty much anything. She can dig up intel on any politician she wants. I see her as a major key to helping Shep with his/her tria/investigationl. She might make threats ^^

Garrus-He has your back no matter what. He has played 2 games with you now. He pretty much knows your motives. He hates C-sec, The Council and any political matters. He has seen the crap first hand.

Tali-She will support you no matter what cause well you helped her with her trial. She also has been around you for 2 games now and understands your motives.

Jacob and Miranda-They will probably think..yea that is so typical Allience. They have to stay away though cause they would be interogated due to their connection with Cerberus. Jacob even more so since he deserted Allience.

Jack-If you romanced her the only way she wouldn't be there is if something really important came up she needed to take care of. Like maybe she got that note about her mother thinking she died and she is trying to find her??? masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Broker_Dossiers/Subject_Zero_%28Jack%29 I could see Jack either not give a damn or really cares about Shep if you romanced her.

Thane-Is dealing with the Hanar scientists that are in danger. Curing his people is a big deal and probably spending time with Kolyat. Romanced Thane would be very concerned for Shep of course but knows she has good intentions.

Grunt-On Tuchunka getting to know his Clan but very pissed that they would mess with his battlemaster. Any enemy of his battlemaster is an enemy to him.

Zaeed-Take his money and run.

Kasumi-Needs to disapear because if The Allience got wind of damning evidence she could end up dead herself.

Samara/Morinith-I really don't know if I should hide from her or not LMAO! What would her code say? I also think she is on Omega. Morinith is too busy out killing other species to get her fix.

Mordin-Too busy working on genophage cure possibly?? Would find it very foolish of Allience to send Shep alone to a Batarian prison.

Legion-Busy working on the future for the geth.

LI as the VS-Wow I'm so interested in how they are going to react. My LI is Kaidan so we didn't meet on good terms last time:unsure: I'm sure they have many questions still. Shep did this as a favor to Allience so did they do this on purpose for Cerberus or not? Also I think they will think it was dumb to send Shep alone.

Kenneth Donnley is gonna get thrown out of the trial/investigation while yelling this is BS Again!!

I think it will all boil down to more of The Allience wanting to interrogate Shep on what he/she has been doing with Cerberus but uses blowing up a star system as an excuse to get Shep where they want him/her. They have been dying to interrogate him/her. Kinda like Tali trial. It focused on what she/her father was doing or not doing but it also headed more towards the Admirals own agendas. War vs No war with geth.

Wow I wrote a book...awesome:D

[CrutchCricket]

Wow thanks to everyone who thought my post was good enough to compliment me on it. I thought I'd get someone trying to tear through it, or that it'd just be ignored. But this is making my day:O

1Less2WorryAbout, most crew members have a comment to say about the major urban centers you can visit (and Tuchanka: not really "urban":blink:). Samara actually says she may return to all of them as there is still much injustice everywhere. Remember Garrus also says Illium is not much different from Omega, it just looks nicer. 

Really it could've gone either way. I just chose Illium because a) I didn't want everyone leaving at Omega and b)I'd probably be ruining Aria's day and she may yet be useful.

Amusing sidenote: On Tuchanka she says she may return to educate the krogan on compassion... with bullets. Yeah I hope we see more of her in ME3.

Thanks again for the compliments though. Would you guys actually like to see this in a story format or am I presuming too much?

PS: OP, sorry I didn't really deal with Jack's character, it seems you're invested in what she'd do as an LI. She wasn't, for me but if you'd like my hypothesis:

Jack (romance version): Jack, having survived the suicide mission, finally begins to feel a measure of peace. For the first time in her life she feels like she belongs. The Normandy's crew are still wary of her but they don't matter. The squad have developed a mutual sense of trust and respect. It feels weird to her, she doesn't know how to deal so she shuts it out.... all except for Shepard.  He's not an easy man to be with but then she never had it easy. But he understands. Soon other crew begin to leave. She stays, noticing an increasing tension. She doesn't know what it is but she knows she'll meet it guns and ME fields blazing. Soon Shepard comes to see her, asking a favor. But it's strange. He wants her to go to Omega undercover to work for Aria and keep an eye on her as a potential ally. They fight. She has no experience or interest in being a spy, she doesn't want to work for an asari b!tch and deep down, she is hurt that he's sending her away. Ultimately he convinces her promising it won't be for long.
When the trial hits Jack goes nuclear, realizing the purpose of the machination. Caring for nothing else she gathers what personal resources she can and books passage offworld. She'll get to Shepard and crush everyone in her way. Before she can board however she's stopped by Aria herself. Aria has made a deal with the Shadow Broker, the terms of which include keeping Jack on Omega for the duration of the trial. A fight breaks out. Aria wins but with difficulty. Jack is restrained until Shepard breaks out but with difficulty. Even without her amp she breaks her shackles and attempts to escape on several occasions. Once Shepard has escaped she calms somewhat. But their reunion won't be the happiest.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 04 novembre 2011 - 01:59 .

[Air36723]

Didn't bioware say something along the lines of not having to run around recruiting our squaddies again, if i'm remembering that right, then Garrus, Tali and other possible LIs (if permanent squaddie) will still be with shepard at the investigation/trial. Garrus/Tali LIs would probably want to stand by Shepard's side during it if they're allowed to due to the history they have with Shep, Tali even more so then garrus cause of shep helping her during her own trial.
Samara has seen the truth about the reapers while helping shep against the collectors and as such would see the destruction of bahak system as a necessary event required to protect many more innocents, pretty sure her code would have a rule about sacrificing some to save more being allowed.

[CrutchCricket]

Air36723 wrote...

Didn't bioware say something along the lines of not having to run around recruiting our squaddies again, if i'm remembering that right, then Garrus, Tali and other possible LIs (if permanent squaddie) will still be with shepard at the investigation/trial.

Not necessarily. "Not having to recruit" might simply mean you don't have to go get them (i.e. specifically go somewhere/do a mission to get them) they'll just show up.

[alperez]

CrutchCricket

I for one would definetly like to see this in a fanfic of some sort, so if you decide to do one, then pm me and let me know so i can review and critique (gently off course lol).

As for the jack i did mean it more in terms of a romanced Jack than a non romanced, simply put a non romanced while still feeling gratitude or something towards Shepard would more than likely be still more concerned with her own safety than shepard's, a romanced one though changes things.

One thing regarding your scenario, everything works apart from Aria and Omega imo. Not sure if you've paid too much attention to the latest comics but the whole Aria/Omega thing is pretty much covered in them along with a big cerberus angle, so perhaps that would play a part in the whole thing and make it work a bit better if you get me.

[alperez]

Air36723

They did suggest recruitment wouldn't play as big a role as it did in me2 but thats more i think because the squad is smaller this time and the whole nature of recruitment and squads is kinda changed a bit.

In terms of who will and won't be at the trial, i'm gonna say it'll be Shepard alone, the squad will have been disbanded imo, inc garrus and tali, which is kinda why i started the thread, to see what people thought the reactions of the squad would be, since i doubt we're actually going to see them in game.

From the looks of things, it'll start with Shepard on trial, the trial will be interrupted probably before it goes too deep into things, then Shepard escapes to the normandy and meets up with Vega and the VS.

As for the rest i reckon we'll see Garrus on palaven, tali with the migrant fleet, liara we'll probably collect from the SB ship, the others will be spread throughout various locations and we'll meet them as we go along, some will join as temps others cameos and if we're lucky some as permanent, this to me seems the mechanic they're using.

[CrutchCricket]

alperez: I have not read any ME material and all my knowledge is from the games. However a brief scan through Aria's ME Wiki article indicates my version is still possible. Indeed if she is aiding Cerberus Shepard could benefit from a spy in her organization. Of course Jack is hardly ideal for that type of work but really, what else is he gonna do with her? The only part that would maybe need to be modified is how the Shadow Broker gets her to agree to hold Jack in the first place. I'm thinking either blackmail or convincing her that Jack would be a valuable captive to sell. Sort of just did this on the fly this morning.

I'll let you know about a possible story.

[alperez]

CrutchCricket

What i meant regarding the aria/omega angle in your scenario was if you did decide to put Jack there then you'd need to know about events in the invasion and follow up comics, there's some serious changes coming up both on omega and with Aria herself.

So perhaps rather than spoil yourself with knowing these changes it may work better putting Jack somewhere else in terms of the story, simply because using Omega without the events of invasion and its follow up will end up making the story make less sense if you get me.

Basically without spoiling too much you'd be creating a version of omega that won't exist by the time Shepard would come to be free of the trial.

Actually in retrospect it'd probably work better just using a non romanced Jack and using the romance of your choice since its your story afterall, either way looking forward to reading it.

[CrutchCricket]

alperez: the Jack excerpt was just a concession for you since you were talking about a romanced Jack. My story wouldn't have that at all. In my version she just sort of leaves and the political state of Omega is irrelevant to that.

[alperez]

CrutchCricket wrote...

alperez: the Jack excerpt was just a concession for you since you were talking about a romanced Jack. My story wouldn't have that at all. In my version she just sort of leaves and the political state of Omega is irrelevant to that.

I kinda realised that at the end of my previous post, this is what happens when i drink and post at the same time, i misconstrue things and go off on a tangent (apparently drink makes you stupid who knew lol).