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[Daveros]

Brockololly wrote...

Could be something to it, as a BioWare LA would indeed be a truly new studio that we don't know about as of yet.

Do we not know about a BioWare LA studio? I can never keep up these days, but this is what the EA site says:

http://aboutus.ea.com/companylabels.action wrote...

 EA BioWare Label

The BioWare Label is a division of EA which crafts high quality, multiplatform, role-playing, MMO and strategy games, focused on emotionally engaging, rich stories with unforgettable characters and vast worlds to discover. Since 1995, BioWare has created some of the industry’s most critically acclaimed titles and franchises, including Baldur's Gate™, Neverwinter Nights™, Star Wars®: Knights of the Old Republic™, Jade Empire™, Mass Effect™ and Dragon Age™. BioWare also oversees the award-winning MMOs Warhammer® Online: Age of Reckoning®, Dark Age of Camelot™ and Ultima Online™. BioWare currently operates in seven locations across the world, including Edmonton (Alberta, Canada), Montreal (Quebec, Canada), Austin (Texas), Fairfax (Virginia), San Francisco (California), Los Angeles (California) and Galway (Ireland).

Currently announced projects at BioWare include the story-driven, massively multiplayer online roleplaying game, Star Wars®:The Old Republic™, Mass Effect 3, the sequel to 2010’s Game of the Year Mass Effect 2, ongoing downloadable content for Dragon Age II such as Dragon Age II Legacy, the social Play4Free RPG for Facebook and Google+,Dragon Age Legends, and the new Play4Free online multiplayer PvP game, Warhammer® Online: Wrath of Heroes™.

They also say something about BioWare making strategy games? When have they ever done that?

Modifié par Daveros, 09 novembre 2011 - 01:56 .

[addiction21]

Daveros wrote...

They also say something about BioWare making strategy games? When have they ever done that?

I cant really think anything but if you read that statement they are clearly rolling everything Mythic has done into BIoWare. DAoC, Warhammer Online, and saying they operate in Fairfax VA. Thats been Mytichs HQ for a while.

Maybe throwing them Westwood/Dreamworks what is now EA LA? Thats a scary thought.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA_Los_Angeles

FPS ans RTS games.

Then again I would like a Boom Blox game from BioWare!

[Brockololly]

Daveros wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Could be something to it, as a BioWare LA would indeed be a truly new studio that we don't know about as of yet.

Do we not know about a BioWare LA studio? I can never keep up these days, but this is what the EA site says:

http://aboutus.ea.com/companylabels.action wrote...

 EA BioWare Label

The BioWare Label is a division of EA which crafts high quality, multiplatform, role-playing, MMO and strategy games, focused on emotionally engaging, rich stories with unforgettable characters and vast worlds to discover. Since 1995, BioWare has created some of the industry’s most critically acclaimed titles and franchises, including Baldur's Gate™, Neverwinter Nights™, Star Wars®: Knights of the Old Republic™, Jade Empire™, Mass Effect™ and Dragon Age™. BioWare also oversees the award-winning MMOs Warhammer® Online: Age of Reckoning®, Dark Age of Camelot™ and Ultima Online™. BioWare currently operates in seven locations across the world, including Edmonton (Alberta, Canada), Montreal (Quebec, Canada), Austin (Texas), Fairfax (Virginia), San Francisco (California), Los Angeles (California) and Galway (Ireland).

Currently announced projects at BioWare include the story-driven, massively multiplayer online roleplaying game, Star Wars®:The Old Republic™, Mass Effect 3, the sequel to 2010’s Game of the Year Mass Effect 2, ongoing downloadable content for Dragon Age II such as Dragon Age II Legacy, the social Play4Free RPG for Facebook and Google+,Dragon Age Legends, and the new Play4Free online multiplayer PvP game, Warhammer® Online: Wrath of Heroes™.

They also say something about BioWare making strategy games? When have they ever done that?

Good catch- I was only going off of Bioware.com under their career section where they only list Edmonton, Montreal, Austin, Fairfax, SF and Ireland.

Hmmm.. yeah, since they only fairly recently became an EA label and not a division, it seems they haven't updated their own site since it only says this: http://www.bioware.com/about

BioWare develops high quality console, PC and online role-playing games, focused on rich stories, unforgettable characters and vast worlds to  discover. Since 1995, BioWare has created some of the world's most  critically acclaimed titles, including Baldur's Gate™, Neverwinter  Nights™, Star Wars®: Knights of the Old Republic™, Jade  Empire™, Mass Effect™ and Dragon Age™. BioWare operates in Edmonton  (Alberta, Canada), Montreal (Quebec), Austin (Texas), Fairfax (Virginia) and Galway (Ireland). In 2008, BioWare was acquired by Electronic Arts, a leading global interactive entertainment publisher.

So yeah, I'd wager its this BioWare LA working on the game. But the strategy game thing is odd- they have never made a strategy game- unless the new game is a strategy game?

Kind of funny reading the differences between their mission statements there and what they changed.

Modifié par Brockololly, 09 novembre 2011 - 04:00 .

[addiction21]

Brockololly wrote...

So yeah, I'd wager its this BioWare LA working on the game. But the strategy game thing is odd- they have never made a strategy game- unless the new game is a strategy game?

Kind of funny reading the differences between their mission statements there and what they changed.

Yes BioWare hs not made a strategy game. No this really is not the "BIoWare" we know making this game if it is a strat game from a brand new and unheard of LA studio.

[NedPepper]

A couple things:

First: It's not the greatest TEASER image. It doesn't really say much about anything, BUT if the point is get the customer excited....it failed.

I really dig both Mass Effect and Dragon Age, and I was a huge fan of the KOTOR games. But I'm not into MMO's and I'm not all that impressed by what I've seen about The Old Republic. Oh, well. Doesn't mean I hate Bioware for making an MMO...it just means it's not for me.

There's not enough to go by in this image, but if it some kind of racing game or pointless sandbox shooter...just like TOR, I'll know it's not a game for me. Nothing personal. But, at this point, I don't have enough information to even speculate. Just one...strange...teaser.

[Chromie]

Brockololly wrote...

So yeah, I'd wager its this BioWare LA working on the game. But the strategy game thing is odd- they have never made a strategy game- unless the new game is a strategy game?

Why not? They never made an MMO much less huge worlds to explore.

[flexxdk]

nedpepper wrote...
First: It's not the greatest TEASER image. It doesn't really say much about anything, BUT if the point is get the customer excited....it failed.

Perhaps it has failed for you, but it got me excited.

[twincast]

Brockololly wrote...

So yeah, I'd wager its this BioWare LA working on the game. But the strategy game thing is odd- they have never made a strategy game- unless the new game is a strategy game?

IIRC the Infinity Engine was originally meant for a strategy game, no? Other than that? Isn't EA2D part of BW now? The 2D spin-offs are tactical games almost void of any roleplaying after all.

edit: Oh, and Gift of the Yeti while IMO more puzzle game than anything could be called a strategy game.

Modifié par twincast, 09 novembre 2011 - 09:48 .

[lobi]

Whacka wrote...

nedpepper wrote...
First: It's not the greatest TEASER image. It doesn't really say much about anything, BUT if the point is get the customer excited....it failed.

Perhaps it has failed for you, but it got me excited.

Hey whacka, whacka, Hey whacka
Gaben sold it.


 ep3

[flexxdk]

lobi wrote...
Hey whacka, whacka, Hey whacka
Gaben sold it.

*snip*
 ep3

Wha...?



...your point?

[lobi]

Whacka wrote...
Wha...?


...your point?

If you do not know remove that avatar, Gman's greatness is not for pretenders .

Modifié par lobi, 09 novembre 2011 - 12:11 .

[flexxdk]

lobi wrote...

Whacka wrote...
Wha...?


...your point?

If you do not know remove that avatar, Gman's greatness is not for pretenders .

I know what you did with the image and what you meant with ep3, but I was wondering why you added that Antlion and Gordon's crowbar and what you meant with "Gaben sold it" (though I managed to figure it out eventually).

Anyway, Gaben would never sell Half Life. It's too popular.

Modifié par Whacka, 09 novembre 2011 - 02:28 .

[MerinTB]

Honestly, I don't know how that image is meant to excite anyone....
other than BioWare fans who'd be excited by a black screen with the word "soon" on it.

It's not a detriment to me - it just doesn't excite me, tell me anything... and the ONLY intrigue I feel by the "mystery" of the image is to wonder WHY that image was chosen.

I worked in market research for nearly 5 years - I don't see what that image is meant to portray or excite.

[KenKenpachi]

Yeah its more of a giant Question Mark, then again I think Bioware as of late likes doing that to its fans, like a scientist, that places the cheese under a cup, and laughs as the rat goes crazy trying to get it.

[Vyse_Fina]

inzesky wrote...

Vyse_Fina wrote...
 I know, I know, nothing is certain and this could still be an amazing RPG, but if that's the case then why don't you just show something that looks like an amazing RPG instead of the new Motorstorm Rival...? I know there are people in marketing who say that any kind of publicity is good publicity, but is it really a good idea to get people confused and partially disappointed instead of exited? =(

I'm sorry, this is Bioware we are talking about and by this point ANYTHING they do, show will cause a cataclysm of nerd rage, violent ranting and declarations from "old school fans" explaining how they feel betrayed and are never going to buy another Bioware game again.

It's funny that (accordingto you) Bioware is already associated with disappointing their older fanbase by now and that other developers with "old fans" aren't.
That wasn' the point though. I said it's not what I hoped to see from Bioware (which would be a return to a "purer" RPG- territory after all the controversy over the last big releases) Neither did I say it looked bad (quite the opposite actually) nor that I think it is going to be a bad game.

If you are one of these "old fans" you mentioned however, chances are that you are into deep RPGs and loved Bioware for providing them. It's what they've come to associate the brand "Bioware" with. Why is it surprising to you that these people now fear for their best source of new material and complain about this new direction?

Again, this isn't about Bioware or even EA being bad or anything. They are just changing the direction they were heading into towards a more mainstream-compadible genre-mix it seems. Through this they will most likely gain many new fans but  also lose some of the old ones (and leave them dead and empty inside:() 
They said in the past that it is a tradeoff they are willing to make, so we either get used to it and stick around or we don't and have look for new sources. Depending on how this title plays out, things could go either way for a lot of us so releasing this as the first piece of media to set the tone may not have been the best thig to do I think...

Modifié par Vyse_Fina, 10 novembre 2011 - 12:48 .

[Mich-cz]

what if... ? this picture could also be a sort of cryptic message if you think of it. what if the main reason and the purpose of this image is to show the NAME of the game not necesarilly some exciting scene from it?

so the name of the game can be for example Sandblow, Flying Race, Explosion or... perhaps Shattered Steel? What do you think?

[Nameless one7]

Mich-cz wrote...

what if... ? this picture could also be a sort of cryptic message if you think of it. what if the main reason and the purpose of this image is to show the NAME of the game not necesarilly some exciting scene from it?

so the name of the game can be for example Sandblow, Flying Race, Explosion or... perhaps Shattered Steel? What do you think?

I think they showed us a WTF image just to mess with us.

[Chromie]

Mich-cz wrote...

what if... ? this picture could also be a sort of cryptic message if you think of it. what if the main reason and the purpose of this image is to show the NAME of the game not necesarilly some exciting scene from it?

so the name of the game can be for example Sandblow, Flying Race, Explosion or... perhaps Shattered Steel? What do you think?

Well Bioware has done that with the Old Republic images but you know that actually words in them just need to decipher them.

[Confused-Shepard]

Remember the days when game companies were only limited by PURE IMAGINATION?
Nowadays it's all, DURR! HD GRAPHIX! OMG! SO REAL!! constantly championed by the PC elitists (you know it's true) that the budgets automatically skyrocket and the developers decide to play it safe so that they can go hope with a paycheck.

[slimgrin]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Remember the days when game companies were only limited by PURE IMAGINATION?
Nowadays it's all, DURR! HD GRAPHIX! OMG! SO REAL!! constantly championed by the PC elitists (you know it's true) that the budgets automatically skyrocket and the developers decide to play it safe so that they can go hope with a paycheck.

This is wrong on so many levels.

[Confused-Shepard]

slimgrin wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Remember the days when game companies were only limited by PURE IMAGINATION?
Nowadays it's all, DURR! HD GRAPHIX! OMG! SO REAL!! constantly championed by the PC elitists (you know it's true) that the budgets automatically skyrocket and the developers decide to play it safe so that they can go hope with a paycheck.

This is wrong on so many levels.

You telling me that's not true? Compare indie games released in the past 6 months to AAA titles in the past 6 months. The AAA titles are all safe, brown, multiplayer focussed shooters or sequels. To bebe fair thiugh, Assassin's Creed & Saints Row: The Third do seem to have a degree of innovation while Arkham City despite it's quality feels like an expansion pack for Arkham Asylum padded with 1000 collectibles. 

[slimgrin]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Remember the days when game companies were only limited by PURE IMAGINATION?
Nowadays it's all, DURR! HD GRAPHIX! OMG! SO REAL!! constantly championed by the PC elitists (you know it's true) that the budgets automatically skyrocket and the developers decide to play it safe so that they can go hope with a paycheck.

This is wrong on so many levels.

You telling me that's not true? Compare indie games released in the past 6 months to AAA titles in the past 6 months. The AAA titles are all safe, brown, multiplayer focussed shooters or sequels. To bebe fair thiugh, Assassin's Creed & Saints Row: The Third do seem to have a degree of innovation while Arkham City despite it's quality feels like an expansion pack for Arkham Asylum padded with 1000 collectibles. 

Developers don't play it safe by relying on pretty graphics, they play it safe with content, by releasing essentially the same game over and over.

[Confused-Shepard]

slimgrin wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Remember the days when game companies were only limited by PURE IMAGINATION?
Nowadays it's all, DURR! HD GRAPHIX! OMG! SO REAL!! constantly championed by the PC elitists (you know it's true) that the budgets automatically skyrocket and the developers decide to play it safe so that they can go hope with a paycheck.

This is wrong on so many levels.

You telling me that's not true? Compare indie games released in the past 6 months to AAA titles in the past 6 months. The AAA titles are all safe, brown, multiplayer focussed shooters or sequels. To bebe fair thiugh, Assassin's Creed & Saints Row: The Third do seem to have a degree of innovation while Arkham City despite it's quality feels like an expansion pack for Arkham Asylum padded with 1000 collectibles. 

Developers don't play it safe by relying on pretty graphics, they play it safe with content, by releasing essentially the same game over and over.

I made the same points: 

1. There is a huge focus on graphics resulting in larger costs
2. So as to get suffiecinet returns, developers DO NOT take risks and play it safe with a tries & tested formula

[Thibax]

A new Neverwinter Nights is more cool