179 réponses à ce sujet

[Arthur Cousland]

Everyone realizes that Theadas is a fictional world, right? ...or is it?

Some mages are bad, some aren't. Certainly the best solution is to kill all mages and ignore all of the templars who abuse their power. Hopefully the pro-templar crowd don't ever find themselves in a position of power in law enforcement or the military. There would be a lot of dead people in the world.

...While I generally am pro-mage, I don't support blood magic and how the Tevinter mages make use of their slaves. Oppressing the mages (and making them live in prisons) only pushes them towards blood magic, rather than trying to work with the templars, who are indeed neccessary. No side needs to win this "war". There will always be mages born, though not all mages crave power, and thus not all should be labeled as maleficar.

[The Baconer]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Hell, herbs and leeches was where it all begun, and it was effective enough to save countless lives.

lol ok.

No matter how you twist and squirm, the Chantry the number one reason for why any advancements at all haven't been made in Thedas for millenia.

FTFY.

The reason for anatomical research to be banned is for obvious reasons, probably foremost of those would be the undead, secondly would be the chance of blood magic. However, only one of those risks are present with a non-mage, and the Chantry is losing power, so actual research will be done in the years to come, which will be independant of any magical involvement.

You're even admitting it in your posts, man.

The Chantry has absolutely no reason to hold back medical research, they do however have many reasons to be reluctant to allow research on corpses, mainly because they have to worry about a little thing called undead.

Which doesn't even require a knowledge of anatomy to create. GG Chantry.

I will still place my faith in the University of Orlais, and hope that the discoveries made there, will be of actual benefit to the populace, instead of the wasted resources in the Circles.

Dude, they're Orlesians. You can expect them to uphold the status-quo of only giving proper education to the gentry.

"The capital city is Val Royeaux, which boasts the University of Orlais: a
major center of learning that attracts young nobles from all over Thedas
with the best education one can buy."

lol. But I guess since it's not the mages receiving education it's not a waste, right?

Modifié par The Baconer, 07 novembre 2011 - 04:09 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

The mages ARE the ones conducting science, hence why all science in Thedas is connected to magic. Only recently in Orlais has a university been created, which will no doubt usher in an era of actual science.
And you don't need antibiotics to be effective within the medical. Hell, herbs and leeches was where it all begun, and it was effective enough to save countless lives. And most importantly it lead to greater medical discoveries. Which magic certainly wont, or they already would've in the odd 1000 years they've had to study it. No matter how you twist and squirm, magic is the number one reason for why actual medical advancements haven't been done in Thedas for millenia.

The reason for anatomical research to be banned is for obvious reasons, probably foremost of those would be the undead, secondly would be the chance of blood magic. However, only one of those risks are present with a non-mage, and the Chantry is losing power, so actual research will be done in the years to come, which will be independant of any magical involvement.

There had been many expeditions previously which attempted to find the Urn, of the ones who were heard of again found nothing. The ones which were never heard of again probably met a grizzly end at the hands of the Dragon Cult guarding the mountain.

The Chantry has absolutely no reason to hold back medical research, they do however have many reasons to be reluctant to allow research on corpses, mainly because they have to worry about a little thing called undead. Nor are they interrested in letting mages access to research would would give them plenty of blood to play with.

I will still place my faith in the University of Orlais, and hope that the discoveries made there, will be of actual benefit to the populace, instead of the wasted resources in the Circles.

The Chantry has the same self-serving reasons to restrict science that historical religions have had.  When any origanization comes to regard the truth as revealed instead of discovered... as capital-T "Truth", you'll see that organization oppose scientific and accademic research. 

Never mind that the culture and society depicted in the Dragon Age setting are analogous to the later pre-renaissance period of Europe, not exactly a hotbed of broad-based secular research and learning.

[dragonflight288]

Not to mention anti-biotics and vaccinations in real life weren't discovered, entirely by accident, until the mid-1800's. Less than 200 years ago.

Many scientists in real life, during the rough time period Origins and DA2 take place in, were reviled because what they discovered went against what the popular opinion of those in power wanted to believe.

I honestly have not seen the Chantry as anything that would allow scientific research for the sake of science. The archivist in Denerim wanted the truth and borderline dismissed the Chantrie's holiest artifacts, and her beliefs were considered borderline heretical because she wanted to apply reason to faith.

Genitivi's research was considered heresy and blasphemy, despite him being right about the location of Andraste's Ashes in the end. Then it wasn't heresy.

[EmperorSahlertz]

And even though it is considered heretical and profane, it is still tolerated. That is the major difference between the Chantry and our world's parallels.