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LOL. I remember they did something like that in the Trek fandom when Malcolm McDowell's character killed Capt. Kirk in one of those Star Trek movies. Mr. McDowell (who is an excellent actor) received all kinds of death threats over it - that's just pure insanity.

Despite their fierce rivalry with one another, SW and ST fans are not too different in regards to their fanaticism at least (don't worry, I won't say that on any fan forums either :P).

Modifié par greengoron89, 05 novembre 2011 - 04:59 .


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Lol yeah I was something like a light Fanatic myself, I have a few figures, tried building some Manadlorian Armor. But so many people on those sites put me to shame, hell you even have a one site I know of that had put together the full technical readouts and capabilities of Star Destroyer. As to the Chewie thing, that one dude actully got dead animals mailed to his home. As to me I was like "What you expect him to live forever?" I just get sick of them pissing on the canon from the EU, such as having Zhan in SW EAW.

But nah I know what you mean. Course you can't tell them that, still I find it Funny that Lucas Arts and its sub divisions make all this stuff for kids, when the fact is its grown people that buy it, but they ignore it. Then again lucas himself sucks at marketing.

But I do wonder how the hard core crowd will react to it, and if it will have the same security that SWG had. Which is if there is a protest or some such rather than ban you they send you to the ass end of no where, where it may take even days to reach civilization.

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Seagloom wrote...

Plus after finding out what happened to the Exile in the "KotOR3" novel I rather pretend the story ended on a huge question mark following KotOR2.


Is that the Revan novel?

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Morroian wrote...

Seagloom wrote...

Plus after finding out what happened to the Exile in the "KotOR3" novel I rather pretend the story ended on a huge question mark following KotOR2.


Is that the Revan novel?


Yes.

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I'd try the game if it wasn't for the terrible artistic style - it seems cartoonish all around (the dialogue, game-play etc are simplified - as is the "art").

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Enormous wall-o-text about how wring the game is, and you haven't even played it. Amazing.

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Err, "wrong."

Can't edit with gimpy iphone.

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I agree with you can't be in the Republic and cannot be a bounty hunter as a problem.

class Restrictions don't make sense in this game unless your Republic but your a Sith....I don't know....

When testing the game I found it was pretty funny you had Sith Players whining about how evil the Sith where and can't other players be nice? Its kind of like whats going on in DC Universe. Bad guys rolling Heros ganking lowbies not going along with their role.

But then again you should be able to choose your role in the galaxy. The Sith is not all about being evil it's about Order.

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The story is solid so fear not you guys are going to have a hell of a time. Can't talk about it but guys trust in this one get it quick

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KenKenpachi wrote...

Lol yeah I was something like a light Fanatic myself, I have a few figures, tried building some Manadlorian Armor. But so many people on those sites put me to shame, hell you even have a one site I know of that had put together the full technical readouts and capabilities of Star Destroyer. As to the Chewie thing, that one dude actully got dead animals mailed to his home. As to me I was like "What you expect him to live forever?" I just get sick of them pissing on the canon from the EU, such as having Zhan in SW EAW.

But nah I know what you mean. Course you can't tell them that, still I find it Funny that Lucas Arts and its sub divisions make all this stuff for kids, when the fact is its grown people that buy it, but they ignore it. Then again lucas himself sucks at marketing.

But I do wonder how the hard core crowd will react to it, and if it will have the same security that SWG had. Which is if there is a protest or some such rather than ban you they send you to the ass end of no where, where it may take even days to reach civilization.


I've been a lifelong Star Wars geek, from about the age of five - but never once even came close to the sheer obsession some of these hardcore fan have. It seems so... unhealthy (and coming from me, that's saying something).

I used to have a TON of miniature action figures and play sets when I was a tyke - probably well over a hundred figurines and a dozen playsets at least. Every major and minor character, most major locations - it was great. I'd play with them for hours upon hours sometimes.

Sadly, my parents thought that, rather than pack the toys up into a single cardboard box and take it with them when they moved, it would be better to just leave them behind in the house for the landlord to throw in the garbage dumpster - losing hundreds of dollars of their own money in the process.

To this day, I still have no explanation for the sheer idiocy of what they did. <_<

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Elhanan wrote...

Personally, I like the fact there are 8 base classes, with two Force using classes for each side. I am unlikely to ever be able to play a melee class without Pause funtionality, but am able to handle the ranged version well enough to join the MMO fray next month.

And I love the idea of allowing the SWTOR characters to actually RP a little more with the dialogue choices, as opposed to simply selecting Paragon & Renegade selections a la ME. More Grey/ Neutral gear may be needed perhaps, but I am encouraged by the expanded system.


Yes, but if you think about it, the game is limiting customization and role-playing by just pinning classes to one side. Like the Smuggler and Bounty Hunter class. Technically, they should be neutral. I think one of my main concern is the alignment of the classes.

marshalleck wrote...

Enormous wall-o-text about how wring the game is, and you haven't even played it. Amazing.


These are my concerns based on the previews. I will play and hopefully, as I said at the end of the starting post, I will eat my words.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 07 novembre 2011 - 02:15 .


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Capt. Obvious wrote...

Yes, if you think about it, the game is limiting customization and role-playing by just pinning classes to one side. Like the Smuggler and Bounty Hunter class. Technically, they should be neutral. I think one of my main concern is the alignment of the classes.

These are my concerns based on the previews. I will play and hopefully, as I said at the end of the starting post, I will eat my words.


These neutral parties are not ingnored, but are not vast enough to be a faction. See here for a small example:

http://www.swtor.com...net/biographies

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Capt. Obvious wrote...

Elhanan wrote...

Personally, I like the fact there are 8 base classes, with two Force using classes for each side. I am unlikely to ever be able to play a melee class without Pause funtionality, but am able to handle the ranged version well enough to join the MMO fray next month.

And I love the idea of allowing the SWTOR characters to actually RP a little more with the dialogue choices, as opposed to simply selecting Paragon & Renegade selections a la ME. More Grey/ Neutral gear may be needed perhaps, but I am encouraged by the expanded system.


Yes, if you think about it, the game is limiting customization and role-playing by just pinning classes to one side. Like the Smuggler and Bounty Hunter class. Technically, they should be neutral. I think one of my main concern is the alignment of the classes.

marshalleck wrote...

Enormous wall-o-text about how wring the game is, and you haven't even played it. Amazing.


These are my concerns based on the previews. I will play and hopefully, as I said at the end of the starting post, I will eat my words.


I know what you mean hopefully they change some of these things but one thing I am scared about is the way this game handles classes it feels like WarHammer and Bioware now controls it and WarHammer is not a good game at all

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TOR intrigues me in spite of myself. If it is indeed possible to solo all the time and to play it like a massive single player game... I'll probably get it.

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It is confirmed in the unofficial FAQ Sticky that SWTOR may be played solo. And surprisingly after a poll I made, most of those voting are leaning this way. My own plan is to go mostly solo, learn the mechanics of the game, and then join in some of the group events if I wish.

FYI - The Warhammer folks were put in charge of PvP, if that helps. Currently I am avoiding this kind of play like the plague; maybe later after the rules and punishments for violations are clarified more.

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Elhanan wrote...


FYI - The Warhammer folks were put in charge of PvP, if that helps. Currently I am avoiding this kind of play like the plague; maybe later after the rules and punishments for violations are clarified more.

And Warhammer PVP was a horrid mess, and I hear it stlil is to this day.  That's bad news for anyone wanting to PVP in SW:TOR.  

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AshedMan wrote...

And Warhammer PVP was a horrid mess, and I hear it stlil is to this day.  That's bad news for anyone wanting to PVP in SW:TOR.  


Here is a link to the unofficial info:

http://www.swtor.com...ad.php?t=496756

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Elhanan wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Yes, if you think about it, the game is limiting customization and role-playing by just pinning classes to one side. Like the Smuggler and Bounty Hunter class. Technically, they should be neutral. I think one of my main concern is the alignment of the classes.

These are my concerns based on the previews. I will play and hopefully, as I said at the end of the starting post, I will eat my words.


These neutral parties are not ingnored, but are not vast enough to be a faction. See here for a small example:

http://www.swtor.com...net/biographies


So NPCs are neutral, but what I'm wondering is if the player can be neutral.

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Yes; but not as a true faction.

There are only two factions: Republic and the Empire. But there are neutral organizations, such as the crime syndicates and their ilk. And characters while cast in the two factions may play as Grey neutral. here is a recent article:

http://au.pc.ign.com.../1210987p1.html

Long story - short; more Grey aligned items will be coming after launch.

Personally, this is the style I am more likely to play with my main, but the freedom is that I will not need to max it, I believe. I plan on a Sith that will be more 'Lawful -Evil' in design; Evil, but with a code or belief. I enjoy many of the various villains written this way: Darth Vader, Cardinal Richelieu of the 3 Musketeers, Loghain from DAO, etc., and will not take or fulfill every quest in the same way as a Renegade Shepard.

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My concern or disappointment is that it is an mmo. I'd rather BioWare stuck with single player RPGs. MMOs are terrible.

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barenas wrote...

My concern or disappointment is that it is an mmo. I'd rather BioWare stuck with single player RPGs. MMOs are terrible.


Also a concern of mine. However, it is confirmed that one may play to the end game solo if desired.

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It's almost too solo-centric considering it's an MMO.

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AshedMan wrote...

It's almost too solo-centric considering it's an MMO.


I even read about a "single player end game planet" which sounds awesome but it does worry me how much of the game is actual multiplayer?

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I even read about a "single player end game planet" which sounds awesome but it does worry me how much of the game is actual multiplayer?


Based on the Unofficial Info Sticky, it seems that PvP was a major priority along the way, so there should be plenty of material for almost everyone. What I like is that there is lots for a unique Players such as myself; a bit anti-social that often goes away from the main crowd. But that end solo Planet may also have PvP, so it will be up to each player to choose, I gues.

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Ha, I got invited to the beta. It starts this weekend.

Ha, sorry bioware, but skyrim.