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[FluffyScarf]

Like Skyrim? Or DXHR? Both have been neutered compared to their originals.

[ElitePinecone]

OMTING52601 wrote...

'RPG' allows for adjustible difficulty and keeps control over dialogue choices. 

So you played the beta and there is another difficulty setting in the RPG mode? Asking for clarification since this is an answer to my question.

The modes are just an option at new game, like so:

http://i.imgur.com/UN8EX.jpg

But difficulty can be adjusted separately (presumably, like in ME2, when you start the game you'll need to choose difficulty)

http://i.imgur.com/IcVoOl.jpg

All the 'modes' do is adjust a few settings that can be changed in the menu anyway. 

Look at the 'Conversation Mode' menu setting - you can adjust that any time you want in-game. 

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:30 .

[ElitePinecone]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

I do fear a bit for teh hubworlds, since if you play actionmode, how fun is it walking around a hubworld without any combat for an hour or so when you dont get to get involved in any of the conversation there?

We aren't really sure how 'Action' works yet, I think it might only skip some dialogue in cutscenes so the flow isn't broken up (when there's only two options for dialogue, say). 

I don't think it'd skip quest conversations in hub worlds, 'cause that'd just be confusing. 

[Matchy Pointy]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Matchy Pointy wrote...

I do fear a bit for teh hubworlds, since if you play actionmode, how fun is it walking around a hubworld without any combat for an hour or so when you dont get to get involved in any of the conversation there?

We aren't really sure how 'Action' works yet, I think it might only skip some dialogue in cutscenes so the flow isn't broken up (when there's only two options for dialogue, say). 

I don't think it'd skip quest conversations in hub worlds, 'cause that'd just be confusing. 

Wich is why I hope for clarifications about how things works soonish, o clear up things like this.

[Ixalmaris]

And another proof that ME3 will be dumbed down for twitch kiddies.

When the dialogues are optional, do you really think they are important? No. ME3 is a moronic GoW in space and marketing tries to hold the preexisting RPG fans with tricks like this. Its worse than the dumbing down of DA2.

Modifié par Ixalmaris, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:30 .

[ElitePinecone]

Ixalmaris wrote...

snip.

Ye of little faith!

Did you even watch the demo yet? There's all the meaty dialogue in there. 

[didymos1120]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

I do fear a bit for teh hubworlds, since if you play actionmode, how fun is it walking around a hubworld without any combat for an hour or so when you dont get to get involved in any of the conversation there?

Either required conversations would just act like cutscene trigger points and occur automatically when you get within a certain distance, and the side ones wouldn't be available at all, or all of them would just be "walk up to random NPC and click" (i.e., the conversations would behave like a cutscene you trigger manually), or the side stuff would be voluntary and the main ones wouldn't. 

Whatever the specific implementation they chose for those areas, you wouldn't be spending an hour there anyway unless you were looking to talk to everyone in the first place, in which case you probably wouldn't have chosen "Action mode".  You'd just follow the little guide seen in the demo that shows you how far and in what direction your main objective is at that hub, and maybe fiddle around at a shop or two to grab some gear. 

[Forsythia]

As long as I can play ME3 just like the first two games, I'm find with it. I do think the sound of 'action mode' and 'story mode' is a bit ridiculous, but I might use them for a quick playthrough with a different class.

I am a bit worried though that BioWare is trying way too hard to appeal to everyone and their grandmother with this game.

Modifié par Forsythia, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:34 .

[FluffyScarf]

And Skyrim is a further dumbed down twitch hack and slash marriage simulator for pathetic old men who dress up as kiddies.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:35 .

[didymos1120]

Ixalmaris wrote...

When the dialogues are optional, do you really think they are important?

It's not particularly different from there being a "skip dialogue" button. Did that make those lines unimportant?  How about the fact that they've always let you avoid hearing one single line of any of the "Investigate" options, which is a huge portion of the dialogue in both games?  Did that make those lines unimportant?  Or did both just make things optional, which is not at all the same as "unimportant"?

BTW, you could also argue that by virtue of including a story mode, then the combat doesn't matter either.  And therefore, nothing in the entire game really matters (which, technically, is kinda true: it is a video game after all, and not say, a summit for a nuclear disarmament treaty or whatever).

Modifié par didymos1120, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:41 .

[jeweledleah]

Forsythia wrote...

As long as I can play ME3 just like the first two games, I'm find with it. I do think the sound of 'action mode' and 'story mode' is a bit ridiculous, but I might use them for a quick playthrough with a different class.

I am a bit worried though that BioWare is trying way too hard to appeal to everyone and their grandmother with this game.

I think they have merely created their answer to people using godmode and to people who skip most of the dialogue already.  they just made both into a game feature isntead of something to be modded in by the fans.

[FluffyScarf]

Clowns like Ixal and co. love to jump to conclusions. Importance is relative. 90% of dialogue in ME 1 was superfluous and could be skipped without missing out on the story.

[Ixalmaris]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Clowns like Ixal and co. love to jump to conclusions. Importance is relative. 90% of dialogue in ME 1 was superfluous and could be skipped without missing out on the story.

And now that ratio got increased to 100%.
But fanboys like you will never admit any flaw in "their" game so I don't really care if you rage about how I dare to question ME3s perfection or not.

Renegade/Paragon? We automate that for you. "Hard" decisions? We automated that for you. Relations? We automated that for you.

Modifié par Ixalmaris, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:45 .

[Ryzaki]

I only wish in story mode the game would do the combat for me.

[FluffyScarf]

Pop over to the Skyrim forum. You'll find fanboys on a whole different level there.

[Ixalmaris]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Pop over to the Skyrim forum. You'll find fanboys on a whole different level there.

Really pathetic from you that you attack other games in order to defend ME3. Too bad it doesn't matter what other games do. That doesn't change how dumbed down ME3 will be.

Modifié par Ixalmaris, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:50 .

[ElitePinecone]

Ixalmaris wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

Pop over to the Skyrim forum. You'll find fanboys on a whole different level there.

Really pathetic from you that you attack other games in order to defend ME3.

Cut it out, this is juvenile.

If you're still insisting that ME3 is a dumbed down mess come March release, fine. But until then, at least suspend your scorn.  

[FluffyScarf]

Hey, they attacked ME 3 first. Mention any BW game there, even their classics, and watch as you get shot down and ripped into.Of course, RPG Codex is worse than BSN and the Beth forums combined. I'm guessing you've never seen the insults they hurl at anyone who plays BW games? They're the pathetic ones.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:53 .

[jeweledleah]

Ixalmaris wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

Clowns like Ixal and co. love to jump to conclusions. Importance is relative. 90% of dialogue in ME 1 was superfluous and could be skipped without missing out on the story.

And now that ratio got increased to 100%.
But fanboys like you will never admit any flaw in "their" game so I don't really care if you rage about how I dare to question ME3s perfection or not.

Renegade/Paragon? We automate that for you. "Hard" decisions? We automated that for you. Relations? We automated that for you.

except... you don't... have to.. chose.. that option.  you can still chose what your shepard will say or how your shepard will behave (and I doubt action mode will involve friendships or romances, unless players deliberately switch that mode of)

its an option.  a choice.  you can play YOUR way, and other people can play THEIR way.  you stll have to do certain missions and trigger cutscenes to progress the story.   and the only difference is - people who used to skip dialogue manualy.. will now have an option to chose an entire mode that allows them to enjoy what they like best.  how is that in any way bad?

the whole point is - choice.

P.S>  I don't get this whole - MUST TAKE A SIDE IN COMPANY WAR thing.  its perfectly possible to enjoy variety of games from variety of publishers without having to decide that you like one and hate all others.  why limit yourself in such a way?

Modifié par jeweledleah, 05 novembre 2011 - 09:54 .

[Ixalmaris]

jeweledleah wrote...

Ixalmaris wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

Clowns like Ixal and co. love to jump to conclusions. Importance is relative. 90% of dialogue in ME 1 was superfluous and could be skipped without missing out on the story.

And now that ratio got increased to 100%.
But fanboys like you will never admit any flaw in "their" game so I don't really care if you rage about how I dare to question ME3s perfection or not.

Renegade/Paragon? We automate that for you. "Hard" decisions? We automated that for you. Relations? We automated that for you.

except... you don't... have to.. chose.. that option.  you can still chose what your shepard will say or how your shepard will behave (and I doubt action mode will involve friendships or romances, unless players deliberately switch that mode of)

its an option.  a choice.  you can play YOUR way, and other people can play THEIR way.  you stll have to do certain missions and trigger cutscenes to progress the story.   and the only difference is - people who used to skip dialogue manualy.. will now have an option to chose an entire mode that allows them to enjoy what they like best.  how is that in any way bad?

the whole point is - choice.

P.S>  I don't get this whole - MUST TAKE A SIDE IN COMPANY WAR thing.  its perfectly possible to enjoy variety of games from variety of publishers without having to decide that you like one and hate all others.  why limit yourself in such a way?

Whats the point of a choice which doesn't matter? The game is build around to be played without decisions. Giving the player the option to make a decision doesn't change that it doesn't really matter what you choose.

[FluffyScarf]

True, but it's fun how Skyrim is praised while ME 3 is mocked, despite the concessions they've made on Skyrim.

[jeweledleah]

Ixalmaris wrote...

Whats the point of a choice which doesn't matter? The game is build around to be played without decisions. Giving the player the option to make a decision doesn't change that it doesn't really matter what you choose.

but the choices do matter.  they affect exactly the sort of ending you get, how many people survive, etc. or you think they are going to give action mode the best possible ending?  I highly HIGHLY doubt it.