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#251
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Well that arrogant cuttlefish in ME 1 is destroyed regardless of what you did earlier. That mutated frog thing is killed, without a way of saving him. DXHR has the same 4 endings. Oblivion has literally no choices to make, and neither will Skyrim. Looks like ME isn't the only culprit.

FNV is really the only current RPG that has any significant difference in the endings. All hail FNV. :alien:

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:03 .


#252
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Ixalmaris wrote...

Whats the point of a choice which doesn't matter? The game is build around to be played without decisions. Giving the player the option to make a decision doesn't change that it doesn't really matter what you choose.


Guess that choosing how to spend your talent/squad points yourself doesn't matter either then, given that both ME1&2 both included an auto-level feature.

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You could also skip the dialogue really easily by tapping spacebar. I guess if the dialogue mattered, then BW should have implemented a way to not skip it and make everybody listen to it over and over again to drive home its importance.

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Rollingcabbage wrote...

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Then they should go play a different game. That's what Gears of War and CoD are for, not Mass Effect. Why does every game have to get watered down and made more like Modern Warfare and pander to the idiot?!


You know what's insulting? You labelling people like me who adore the ME series (at least seven comeplete play-throughs), but also enjoys FPS games like HL, BF, COD, CS and other games like Max Payne, ARMA, Fallout and Mechwarrior as 'idiots'.


Why would I call people like that "idiots" when I myself own a fair amount of shooters myself, including Battlefield 2, Half-Life 2, Team Fortress 2, Gears of War, CoD 2 & 4, Duke Nukem and Unreal Tournmanet, amongst others? When Unreal Tournament is my favourite game of all time, and my username here comes from my old deathmatching moniker from when I first played multiplayer Quake and Duke 3D, etc.

As is quite common at this place, you're missing the point: that there's a difference between a gamer with a wide variety of tastes who can appreciate a wide array of game genres for what they are, and a person who pretty much only plays shooters because they like things simple and visceral. A person who plays and enjoys shooters is not necessarily an idiot shooter fanboy.

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The ignorance on these forums is truly astounding.
NO ONE can judge a game, Fanboy or Hater until you have played and beaten the game.

#256
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TK, making sense for once. Looks like you turned a corner. Now if only the other minions were as open minded.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...
NO ONE can judge a game, Fanboy or Hater until you have played and beaten the game.

So you are forced to waste money on a product every bit of information is pointing you that you'll dislike just to confirm that you disliked it? That makes no sense.
And I'm speaking in general, not about ME 3 specifically.

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 Call me greedy, but I want a mode that has all the strengths of those individual traits be rolled up into one style of game. I want great action, I want great story and I want great rpg to form one great experience. I don't want to 'choose' if that makes sense.

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Pretty sure ME 1 was met with dislike from 'loyal' BW fans when it was announced and released. Didn't stop them from picking up a copy and liking it. Mostly. Oblivion looked great. Too bad it needed half a dozen patches, and several mods to fix it up. And even that doesn't help the game from becoming a boring trudge through repetitive, sparsely populated forests.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:11 .


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Arijharn wrote...

 Call me greedy, but I want a mode that has all the strengths of those individual traits be rolled up into one style of game. I want great action, I want great story and I want great rpg to form one great experience. I don't want to 'choose' if that makes sense.


Too bad that Bioware/EA deems this too complicated for the target audience. Its either pure action (for the CoD/GoW crowd they want to attract) and some alibi story mode for whever is left over from ME1 which does not make the story any better but the action is easier..

Modifié par Ixalmaris, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:12 .


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Xewaka wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...
NO ONE can judge a game, Fanboy or Hater until you have played and beaten the game.

So you are forced to waste money on a product every bit of information is pointing you that you'll dislike just to confirm that you disliked it? That makes no sense.
And I'm speaking in general, not about ME 3 specifically.


rent the game then. you can't have other's form opinions for you. I thought I would hate ME2 after it's reputation, but i got it anyway and was proven wrong.

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Xewaka wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...
NO ONE can judge a game, Fanboy or Hater until you have played and beaten the game.

So you are forced to waste money on a product every bit of information is pointing you that you'll dislike just to confirm that you disliked it? That makes no sense.
And I'm speaking in general, not about ME 3 specifically.


No kidding. That is the sort of argument that sh!tty game developers use to try to manipulate people into buying games that they're not confident will do well.

Game companies will develop and promote their games as they see fit. If any of that does not appeal to a particular consumer (or group of consumers), they can either rage about it and hope that it gets changed (extremely unlikely) or they can simply not buy it. Companies are more than willing to ignore people's actual protests but cannot ignore loss of sales for a poor product.

DeathDragon185 wrote...

rent the game then. you can't have
other's form opinions for you. I thought I would hate ME2 after it's
reputation, but i got it anyway and was proven wrong.


I wasn't aware one could rent PC games. How does that work exactly?

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:12 .


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Arijharn wrote...

 Call me greedy, but I want a mode that has all the strengths of those individual traits be rolled up into one style of game. I want great action, I want great story and I want great rpg to form one great experience. I don't want to 'choose' if that makes sense.


Man, why is this so difficult for people? That's what "RPG mode" is.

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So sick of seeing the words "CoD" and "GoW" that it's making my head spin. @_@

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Ever heard of torrents/newsgroups Aggie? It's all the rage these days.

PS. Skyrim is being dumbed down for the CoD crowd too.

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FluffyScarf wrote...

You could also skip the dialogue really easily by tapping spacebar. I guess if the dialogue mattered, then BW should have implemented a way to not skip it and make everybody listen to it over and over again to drive home its importance.


I guess that means those annoying, unskippable lines are the only ones that matter.  Oh, and the crap people say in combat, since that's unskippable too.  Which, going by this insane troll logic, means "ENEMIES EVERYWHERE!" is one of the few truly important lines in either game.

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[quote]DeathDragon185 wrote...

rent the game then. you can't have
other's form opinions for you. I thought I would hate ME2 after it's
reputation, but i got it anyway and was proven wrong.

[/quote]

I wasn't aware one could rent PC games. How does that work exactly?

[/quote]

errr the same way renting works for consoles????

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Ixalmaris wrote...

Too bad that Bioware/EA deems this too complicated for the target audience. Its either pure action (for the CoD/GoW crowd they want to attract) and some alibi story mode for whever is left over from ME1 which does not make the story any better but the action is easier..


Hey genius: RPG Mode.  It exists.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...

TSAggie wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...
rent the game then. you can't have other's form opinions for you. I thought I would hate ME2 after it's reputation, but i got it anyway and was proven wrong.

I wasn't aware one could rent PC games. How does that work exactly?

errr the same way renting works for consoles????

Find a shop that rents PC games. Go ahead. I dare you.
Oh, in case you need a hint: Check for Steamworks needed tag on the box.

Modifié par Xewaka, 05 novembre 2011 - 10:17 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

Ixalmaris wrote...

Too bad that Bioware/EA deems this too complicated for the target audience. Its either pure action (for the CoD/GoW crowd they want to attract) and some alibi story mode for whever is left over from ME1 which does not make the story any better but the action is easier..


Hey genius: RPG Mode.  It exists.


This.

RPG mode plays just like ME1&2. I don't know why everyone is freaking out and shouting "OMG either story mode or teh shoot-em-up GoW Mode?!"

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Xewaka wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...

TSAggie wrote...

DeathDragon185 wrote...
rent the game then. you can't have other's form opinions for you. I thought I would hate ME2 after it's reputation, but i got it anyway and was proven wrong.

I wasn't aware one could rent PC games. How does that work exactly?

errr the same way renting works for consoles????

Find a shop that rents PC games. Go ahead. I dare you.


Challenge accepted:D

#272
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It's what RPG-fanatics are renowned for. Jumping to conclusions. They'll never admit it, but it's obvious why they're ridiculed.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...

Xewaka wrote...
Find a shop that rents PC games. Go ahead. I dare you.

Challenge accepted:D

Just remember, if the box had the Steamworks tag, it won't work as a rental. Or any other kind of online register service, really.
Then you might begin to understand why it is hard to come around PC renting.

#274
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I'll just repeat what two other people have said.

RPG mode is like ME/ME2. It has story and combat. The other two are variations of the same thing.

Keelah. I never knew people could so drastically misunderstand something.

#275
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didymos1120 wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

 Call me greedy, but I want a mode that has all the strengths of those individual traits be rolled up into one style of game. I want great action, I want great story and I want great rpg to form one great experience. I don't want to 'choose' if that makes sense.


Man, why is this so difficult for people? That's what "RPG mode" is.


And I'm still supposed to believe my choices are meaningful and there will be tough choices that need a lot of consideration when there's also this little "Baby me to success" more designed for the "herp derps" too, huh? That they won't get the best options plattered to them so they can still get the best ending without any real effort?

And I thought ME2 was "Fisher Price: My First RPG" as it was.