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Hellbound555 wrote...

why all the interest in Ashley? I thought everyone's favourite VS was Kaidan.


They're pretty much even. I have no save with Kaidan surviving VS, but that's because I only have m!Shepards and they are all romancing Ashley.
Funny thing - I like Kaidan. The more often I'm talking to him, the more I like him. And it hurts to leave him on Virmire.

Besides that - the leaked Beta shows Ashley, not Kaidan. The game assumes you saved the of opposite gender on Virmire to keep a potential romance alive if you create a new character from scratch. And since the beta shows a male Shepard, Ashley survived Virmire. The same scene with a female Shepard should show Kaidan.

Modifié par CptData, 08 novembre 2011 - 07:48 .


#52
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My interpretation of that scene is, Ashley is surprised to see Shepard and it seems that it's a bit of an awkward situation for her, then Shepard gives Ashley the cold shoulder imo...
And Ashley ends up feeling sad about the short reunion/cold shouldering.

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I can't remember the last time I ever saved Kaidan over Ashley, even on FemShep playthroughs.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

Didn't notice spite--too distracted by weird mouth animations and hair clipping through her shoulder.

I was distracted by the WTF clothing. 

And there was nothing spiteful about what she said. 

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You have to remember Ash did mention James in ME1 as a crush, namely as FemShep. She knows him prior and probably had a relationship with him during the times Shep died and fought against The Collectors. So she's probably just hamming it up so he doesn't know about their relationship.

It doesn't matter though...she's the one on Virmire on most of my playthroughs for a reason... ;-). Now what KAIDAN has to say...THAT I wanna find out! If he even thinks of saying something close to that...

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Air36723 wrote...

I understand what your sayin Slayer and Ryzaki, but if he was a ruthless, i dont think she woulda had that wistful reminisce type voice as like you said, it was to be expected of a ruthless shep, or even better a ruthless mindior survivor, batarians are his bane. i'll just reiterate this though, we'll just have to wait and see how it plays out, since its not march yet (stupid calendar/time....go faster!)


To me the Ash's voice didn't seem 'wistful' at all, it seemed more ambivilous/slightly hostile, but like you say we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.

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Celtic Latino wrote...

You have to remember Ash did mention James in ME1 as a crush, namely as FemShep. She knows him prior and probably had a relationship with him during the times Shep died and fought against The Collectors. So she's probably just hamming it up so he doesn't know about their relationship.

It doesn't matter though...she's the one on Virmire on most of my playthroughs for a reason... ;-). Now what KAIDAN has to say...THAT I wanna find out! If he even thinks of saying something close to that...


Pretty sure that's not the same James (I vaguely rember a post saying that the VS didn't know Vega...although that could  have been scrapped). And that doesn't sound very Ash-like.


And really,what else could she have said that eloquently stated their situation. Vega is clearly looking for more than a yes/no answer and her answer makes their reklationship a bit more off a mystery...As for her voice,nothing spiteful about that,at all. And no matter how else she could have said it,people that want to find something wrong with it WILL find something wrong with it as the OP has clearly proven.

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Weltea wrote...

Pretty sure that's not the same James (I vaguely rember a post saying that the VS didn't know Vega...although that could  have been scrapped). And that doesn't sound very Ash-like.


Yeah. Mac said that Vega didn't know either of the VS before ME3.

And really,what else could she have said that eloquently stated their situation. Vega is clearly looking for more than a yes/no answer and her answer makes their reklationship a bit more off a mystery...As for her voice,nothing spiteful about that,at all. And no matter how else she could have said it,people that want to find something wrong with it WILL find something wrong with it as the OP has clearly proven.


^I very much agree.

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I didn't hear spitefulness, what I heard is sadness on her part. All shepard did was say hi and then he didn't even give her a second look and gave her a cold shoulder. Shepard really couldn't give Ashley a minute or two to talk to her? I understand that the council was waiting on Shepard but you'd think that they could wait a minute or 2.

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seirhart wrote...

I didn't hear spitefulness, what I heard is sadness on her part. All shepard did was say hi and then he didn't even give her a second look and gave her a cold shoulder. Shepard really couldn't give Ashley a minute or two to talk to her? I understand that the council was waiting on Shepard but you'd think that they could wait a minute or 2.


No, he couldn't give her a minute. More important things going on. But Shepard, is a look and a smile REALLY too much to ask for? Image IPB The brush off was just rude! I have faith that BioWare will fix this though. Image IPB

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Its the Beta. Most emotional/facial expression hadn't been done yet. That being said, Shepard looks great.

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As many have already stated, the video was from the beta which has Ashley as a non-LI by default. I fully expect a loyal Shepard to be giving her a much warmer reception (assuming he's forgiven her for Horizon).

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It also appears that a lot of the content has been cut. It seems to jump frames quiet a bit. EG halfway through Anderson's and Shepard's conversation was cropped quite a bit.

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MegaBadExample wrote...

seirhart wrote...

I didn't hear spitefulness, what I heard is sadness on her part. All shepard did was say hi and then he didn't even give her a second look and gave her a cold shoulder. Shepard really couldn't give Ashley a minute or two to talk to her? I understand that the council was waiting on Shepard but you'd think that they could wait a minute or 2.


No, he couldn't give her a minute. More important things going on. But Shepard, is a look and a smile REALLY too much to ask for? Image IPB The brush off was just rude! I have faith that BioWare will fix this though. Image IPB


I know its a beta and all, but what if even if you she is your li or not shepard still gives her a cold shoulder and no smile or hug nor any other acknowledgment besides saying hi.  Now if a male shepard is like that to ashley I wonder if a female shepard woulbe be the same to Kaidan friend or not.

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seirhart wrote...

I know its a beta and all, but what if even if you she is your li or not shepard still gives her a cold shoulder and no smile or hug nor any other acknowledgment besides saying hi.  Now if a male shepard is like that to ashley I wonder if a female shepard woulbe be the same to Kaidan friend or not.


That is something you will all have to wait to find out on March 6th, 2012, I'm afraid.

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I want the option to have a smile interrupt if we want it, and the option to just brush her off if that's what we prefer.

Everyone will want to react differently in that little scene, so why not let us react as we like?

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Mariah5 wrote...

I want the option to have a smile interrupt if we want it, and the option to just brush her off if that's what we prefer.

Everyone will want to react differently in that little scene, so why not let us react as we like?


This. 

No more forced friendships ala Garrus and Tali please. 

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they arent forced friendships for me, but everyone's different. I'm one of the people who in some playthroughs will want to brush her off cause it fits how that shep is feeling, and will want to acknowledge her too, as for giving her a minute or two, shep may not be in the military anymore in that scene, but you do NOT keep superiors waiting in the military (served 5yrs) so trust me on that. He could however have said sorry ash gotta talk to the admiralty board, good to see you though as he walks by.

Modifié par Air36723, 09 novembre 2011 - 07:35 .


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Am i the only one who thought her voice was very different in the video, didnt sound like her at all.

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People are seriously making a big deal of Shepard not treating Ashley like the most important thing in the universe? Cold shoulder, really? There's bigger things going on in the galaxy then a relationship. If anyone could hold off on speaking with Shepard it's Ashley.

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jreezy wrote...

People are seriously making a big deal of Shepard not treating Ashley like the most important thing in the universe? Cold shoulder, really? There's bigger things going on in the galaxy then a relationship. If anyone could hold off on speaking with Shepard it's Ashley.


Considering the succes of their last conversation, I think waiting might be a good idea!Image IPB

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To me she doesn't sound spiteful but distrustful. It sound like she doesn't trust Shep at all.

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I think she means "know" in the biblical sense.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:24 .


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stwu wrote...

To me she doesn't sound spiteful but distrustful. It sound like she doesn't trust Shep at all.

I definitely prefer her being distrustful of Shepard than spiteful, although I didn't really get that impression either. It sounded like a normal "I used to".

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stwu wrote...

To me she doesn't sound spiteful but distrustful. It sound like she doesn't trust Shep at all.

^ This. It'll be interesting to see what Kaidan's reaction will be for this scene, considering that he seemed more confrontational and suspicious of Shepard than Ashley was during the VS's encounter with Shepard on Horizon.

Modifié par AVPen, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:50 .