Fallout 2 taught me that kids in computer games are sneaky bastards who deserve to die horribly...damn thiefs.
He's not real people, and we have nothing invested in him, ergo we have no reason to feel for him, I get what they're trying to do but it doesn't work (on me at least).
ME3 Intro kid.
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#102
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 01:23
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Meh, I wasn't impressed. If this is the one thing the emotional impact of the Reapers' arrival on Earth hinges on...
#103
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 01:25
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I care about that child dying about as much as the Reaper that killed him did.
#104
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 01:26
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It was so tacked on. Have someone we know die, not some random kid.
#105
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 01:43
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Bekkael wrote...
Hathur wrote...
If I as a "mere" woman can handle that without crying you big burly men can handle something as little as a dropped hammer on the foot :
*snip*
Women often have higher pain thresholds than men.Which is why we are the ones to give birth.:innocent:
No they don't...
Women can handle certain kinds of pain better but overall women have a lower pain-threshold than men.
"Stop crying! Your parents are dead or they soon will be, now come out here so I can save you you little coward!"mauro2222 wrote...
Liec wrote...
What does Shepard say if you pick the renegade response with the kid? ../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png
Shepard:
You think that those things are scary!? You are gonna need diapers
again if you don't come with me... little ******, don't know who the ****
I am.
Something like that?
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 01:45
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One death is a tragedy. 300,000 deaths is a statistic.
#107
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 01:47
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300,000 Batarian deaths is a party.
#108
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:10
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i do not, it is a cheap gimmick
random kid
if it had been a family trying to escape maybe
earth can't be all alliance personnel
we see like no civillians
random kid
if it had been a family trying to escape maybe
earth can't be all alliance personnel
we see like no civillians
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:27
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Only Parents of those who have very close relationships with Children will have any emotional impact to the scene. I don't, thus I would not care but I can see how others would feel, it isn't 'melodramatic' or 'generic' it's something that only they would understand, they being the above categories.
I've grown up with my dog molly, she's 14 and I have just turned 16, you could say theres a year and a bit in-between us... anyway when I read Dragon age: The Calling you can bet that I was teary eyed with that scene between Kell and Hafter, I could feel his pain since I too know the love between man and dog.
Bestiality aside, I hope you can see my point, only those with close connections to said victims will find any emotional impact from the scenes. I find it hypocritical that people would shout 'it's not real' then head on to another forums and go on about how much they love a certain character.
A Character is a character, virtual or real, aslong as the former matches the latter in writing, depth and acting then the same emotions can be extracted from it. Hell, people find emotional value in inanimate objects like old pieces of furniture or a family heirloom, I'm not surprised at this, and I applaud Bioware for doing it.
I've grown up with my dog molly, she's 14 and I have just turned 16, you could say theres a year and a bit in-between us... anyway when I read Dragon age: The Calling you can bet that I was teary eyed with that scene between Kell and Hafter, I could feel his pain since I too know the love between man and dog.
Bestiality aside, I hope you can see my point, only those with close connections to said victims will find any emotional impact from the scenes. I find it hypocritical that people would shout 'it's not real' then head on to another forums and go on about how much they love a certain character.
A Character is a character, virtual or real, aslong as the former matches the latter in writing, depth and acting then the same emotions can be extracted from it. Hell, people find emotional value in inanimate objects like old pieces of furniture or a family heirloom, I'm not surprised at this, and I applaud Bioware for doing it.
#110
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:31
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It'd have more of an emotional impact if it's someone you actually know. If Garrus get's killed in ME3, and it's done right, it'll be one of the most memorable moments in videogame history for me. Up there with the end of RDR.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:32
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So much display of manliness.
I'm sure some of you shed a tear when Bambi's mother died.
I'm sure some of you shed a tear when Bambi's mother died.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:34
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I think the only reason Shepard gets uneasy feeling when the kid dies is because he/she had actual interaction with the kid.
Usually when a bunch of people suffer/die we hardly feel a thing, we know it happens everyday. But if someone you had direct contact with (even just hi/bye, a handshake) was one of that bunch of people, we tend to feel at least a little sorry for that person.
I don't like kids in general and I'm forced to work with them everyday due to my job. To my surprise, the scene actually works for me. The mo-cap when the kid struggling to climb up the shuttle is amazing, I know this scene's gonna break a lot of parents' hearts.
Usually when a bunch of people suffer/die we hardly feel a thing, we know it happens everyday. But if someone you had direct contact with (even just hi/bye, a handshake) was one of that bunch of people, we tend to feel at least a little sorry for that person.
I don't like kids in general and I'm forced to work with them everyday due to my job. To my surprise, the scene actually works for me. The mo-cap when the kid struggling to climb up the shuttle is amazing, I know this scene's gonna break a lot of parents' hearts.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:41
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LOLandStuff wrote...
So much display of manliness.
I'm sure some of you shed a tear when Bambi's mother died.
I cried when Mufasa died
Why people doesn't like kids?
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#114
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:42
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Im still thinking the kid might be a hallucination.
That or the adults in the shuttle are jerks for making him climb in himself and not really acknowledging he was there
That or the adults in the shuttle are jerks for making him climb in himself and not really acknowledging he was there
#115
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:45
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NYG1991 wrote...
Im still thinking the kid might be a hallucination.
That or the adults in the shuttle are jerks for making him climb in himself and not really acknowledging he was there
I did notice that too..... Yeah I will be damn sure to help MY kids up if they had problems....I'd also in a heartbeat help ANY child on mine or not... hell if it was a full shuttle I would willingly get off and load up my place for another child.
so that sort of stood out to me too alittle.......but then again, Perhaps there is as much distanced lack of empathy and compassion in the future as their is in community forums...it's got to start somewhere right?
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:46
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I shed tears BECAUSE I AM NO HEARTLESS MONSTER. Also, it is effective because you can try to help the kid earlier - maybe if you had coaxed him out of the vent he would have survived...
#117
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:50
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Only shep seems to have attachment to him. You never see his parents. He manages to get around during the attack better than shep and Anderson while unarmed and alone.
It wouldn't surprise me if he pops up elsewhere in game.
Sheps going Isaac Clark on us
It wouldn't surprise me if he pops up elsewhere in game.
Sheps going Isaac Clark on us
#118
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:51
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NYG1991 wrote...
Im still thinking the kid might be a hallucination.
That or the adults in the shuttle are jerks for making him climb in himself and not really acknowledging he was there
Lol! I wasn't the only one who noticed this
#119
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 02:56
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If you've seen the full leaked intro, I don't know how the kid's death doesn't choke you up.
Do you lack emotion? Or just sympathy/empathy (No, I cannot be bothered to care to tell the difference right now, though I'm sure someone will criticize me for it.)?
Sure, the kid technically doesn't exist, but...
Dude. That kid... for his death alone, every Reaper will suffer.
Do you lack emotion? Or just sympathy/empathy (No, I cannot be bothered to care to tell the difference right now, though I'm sure someone will criticize me for it.)?
Sure, the kid technically doesn't exist, but...
Dude. That kid... for his death alone, every Reaper will suffer.
#120
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 03:02
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Jonathan Shepard wrote...
If you've seen the full leaked intro, I don't know how the kid's death doesn't choke you up.
Do you lack emotion? Or just sympathy/empathy (No, I cannot be bothered to care to tell the difference right now, though I'm sure someone will criticize me for it.)?
Sure, the kid technically doesn't exist, but...
Dude. That kid... for his death alone, every Reaper will suffer.
Neither do I... It doesn't matters if you didn't knew the kid or his parents, it's a kid for god's sake. If you lack empathy towards him... for me, you fail as a human.
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#121
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 03:43
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Omega-202 wrote...
Not to mention the fact that we don't know the whole story here. I still find it odd that nobody besides Shepard acknowledges the child. Anderson ignores the whole vent incident, the soldiers and passengers in the shuttle neglect to help the kid get into the shuttle (despite him struggling to even get his foot up) and it doesn't show Ash or any of the others on the Normandy even looking at him. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the kid is part of Shepard's broken psyche.
Oh good, so I'm not the only one who thought that was a little strange. Not only did nobody notice the kid, but the air vent scene was very telling: the kid makes sounds as he crawls back through it, but the moment Shepard gets interrupted by Anderson the kid disappears without a single sound. I found that strange...
#122
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 04:00
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I feel bad for the kid, but there's nothing that we can do about it; the only thing that we can do is move on and do our best to prevent anyone from doing it again.
#123
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 04:02
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Inutaisho7996 wrote...
"Hard to imagine galaxy. Too many people. Faceless. Statistics. Easy to depersonalize...For this fight, want personal connection. Can't anthropomophize galaxy."
Seeing the kid die is much more personal and effective than being told that people are dying. "Show, don't tell" is a fundemantal rule of great story telling.
http://pective.com/m/cookie
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 04:07
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I like the first and the last scene with the kid, but the vent scene just feels out of place. It cuts into the action pretty abruptly and then is immediately forgotten about. I hope they rewrite that scene before the final release.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 04:10
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There were two civilians in the shuttle that the kid got into.Gabey5 wrote...
i do not, it is a cheap gimmick
random kid
if it had been a family trying to escape maybe
earth can't be all alliance personnel
we see like no civillians
