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[CptBomBom00]

Did Anderson died in that shuttle, the other one that was blown apart?

[Mr. Gogeta34]

100% Honesty Warning:

The "everyone's dying" and "You can't help me" lines are delivered pretty fake and flat for a boy in fear. Could partially be the writer's fault, but whoever's to blame, that actually took away from me caring about the boy. That said, the ending scene where the arrival of the Reaper tank happened was well done. And it was sad, just not tear-jerking sad (in my opinion) because of the earlier lines/delivery.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

Did Anderson died in that shuttle, the other one that was blown apart?

He was in a different area from those shuttles.

[CptBomBom00]

Aha THX man for clearing this, Peace bro.

[Nizzemancer]

Bekkael wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Hathur wrote...

If I as a "mere" woman can handle that without crying you big burly men can handle something as little as a dropped hammer on the foot :
*snip*

Women often have higher pain thresholds than men. Which is why we are the ones to give birth. :innocent:

No they don't...
Women can handle certain kinds of pain better but overall women have a lower pain-threshold than men.

You will never convince me of that when my life experience has taught me otherwise.

That's funny, because my life experience has taught me the opposite.

[King Minos]

It's just a kid being turned into small particles that eventually get inhaled by organic beings then pooped out onto the floor only to be absorbed into the ground to fertilise the land and become food. The cycle repeats, except no Reapers are involved after. Poor little child getting killed is a cheap ploy to bring in emotion, a better tactic is too see a child run out of their house chased by their huskified parents.

[sponge56]

Characters dying at the start of the game is overused to the point of being ridiculous by Bioware. Remember when people thought Anderson would die at the beginning of ME3, "Oh, its so cliche and obvious!". Litrealy anything Bioware does some people will not like. They seem to be damned if they do and damned if they don't

[snfonseka]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

"Hard to imagine galaxy. Too many people. Faceless. Statistics. Easy to depersonalize...For this fight, want personal connection. Can't anthropomophize galaxy."

Seeing the kid die is much more personal and effective than being told that people are dying. "Show, don't tell" is a fundemantal rule of great story telling.

^This and I think he is not actually a real kid. Just an imagination of Shepard. Early stages of indoctrination?

[Robhuzz]

snfonseka wrote...

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

"Hard to imagine galaxy. Too many people. Faceless. Statistics. Easy to depersonalize...For this fight, want personal connection. Can't anthropomophize galaxy."

Seeing the kid die is much more personal and effective than being told that people are dying. "Show, don't tell" is a fundemantal rule of great story telling.

^This and I think he is not actually a real kid. Just an imagination of Shepard. Early stages of indoctrination?

You do know that the kid is later seen running around on the street, getting into a shuttle which is then blown up right? Definitely not an illusion made up by Shepard's brain..

[aridor1570]

I hope I'm not the only one who heard this, but when the shuttle with the kid inside explodes, you can hear a scream.

[Dreadwing 67]

I think if you have some semblance of a moral conscience, you would feel a little bit of emotion, not tear dropping where your depressed for the rest of the day, but something like "oh sh**"

On a side note, the instance at the end coupled with Clint's Brilliant piece really hit home how impossible this all seems. They say there is a way to win....but I feel like im gathering fleets just to sacrifice to Space Cthulu

Modifié par Dreadwing 67, 06 novembre 2011 - 02:16 .

[bobspoland]

aridor1570 wrote...

I hope I'm not the only one who heard this, but when the shuttle with the kid inside explodes, you can hear a scream.

no you don't - im too busy listening to clint-m music!

[snfonseka]

Robhuzz wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

"Hard to imagine galaxy. Too many people. Faceless. Statistics. Easy to depersonalize...For this fight, want personal connection. Can't anthropomophize galaxy."

Seeing the kid die is much more personal and effective than being told that people are dying. "Show, don't tell" is a fundemantal rule of great story telling.

^This and I think he is not actually a real kid. Just an imagination of Shepard. Early stages of indoctrination?

You do know that the kid is later seen running around on the street, getting into a shuttle which is then blown up right? Definitely not an illusion made up by Shepard's brain..

Yea I know. If you take a look closely, no other NPC interact or response to that kid.

[Ofcoursenot]

I had no idea that after the air duct scene you ever saw him again. Then I saw him get lazer'd in the video, and tbh it did make me a little sad. I guess I'm too much of an idealist, in life and in the case of my habit of going paragon and neutragon.

[Ofcoursenot]

Nizzemancer wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Hathur wrote...

If I as a "mere" woman can handle that without crying you big burly men can handle something as little as a dropped hammer on the foot :
*snip*

Women often have higher pain thresholds than men. Which is why we are the ones to give birth. :innocent:

No they don't...
Women can handle certain kinds of pain better but overall women have a lower pain-threshold than men.

You will never convince me of that when my life experience has taught me otherwise.

That's funny, because my life experience has taught me the opposite.

Life experience has taught me that arguing over emotions over the internet is silly.

[Spartanburger]

Who was it that theorized that the kid may actually be a figment of Shepard's own imagination brought on by the preliminary stages of indoctrination?

The more I think about it, the more likely it seems to me.
No other person makes any contact with him or even seems to acknowledge the kids existence. Nobody.

Nobody helps him up the rather large gap onto the shuttle.
Nobody is seen with him while he plays with the toy ship.
Nobody other than Shepard talks to him or even notices him at all.

And how the kid disappears in the vent without a sound just sets off so many warning lights of some mind-****ery going on.

I don't know about everyone else, but I agree with the idea.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Does anyone really care that he dies?

I'd already read about the kid in the GI mag, one of the ME3 articles that came after the one featuring Sheploo on the cover. So now I finally got to see it, I don't feel any differently than when I read it.

This is war, Shepard of all people knows this (at least he/she should). Tragedy is in his background as an Earthborn or Colonist. It is again in his military service: War Hero, Ruthless, Sole Survivor. Why he gets so emotionally affected by some random kid dying is a bit baffling.

Just seems like a weak attempt to make us feel tragedy in the intro scene.

It was a brilliant scene. You first see him playing in the backyard, then you see him trying to escape in the vents, and then you see him get into the shuttle that gets blown up literally at the last minute. If that doesn't add an emotional struggle and is a perfect demonstration of what we're facing, then perhaps you can tell us of an alternative?

Oh, and I did tear up at the end of the Earth beta. Not going to lie about that.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 06 novembre 2011 - 04:33 .

[FoxHound109]

Spartanburger wrote...

And how the kid disappears in the vent without a sound just sets off so many warning lights of some mind-****ery going on.

Not only that, but pay attention to the music that plays the moment Shepard looks back and sees that the kid is gone. It's very foreboding. 

It might not be indoctrination though. It could just be Shepard having a bit of mental breakdown, which would be nice. Seeing him vulnerable for once would make him a lot more human.

[The Spamming Troll]

mango smoothie wrote...

I think if they really wanted to add drama right form the beginning of the game they should have killed off a well known character.

yeah bro. they should kill shepard again!

[snfonseka]

FoxHound109 wrote...

Spartanburger wrote...

And how the kid disappears in the vent without a sound just sets off so many warning lights of some mind-****ery going on.

Not only that, but pay attention to the music that plays the moment Shepard looks back and sees that the kid is gone. It's very foreboding. 

It might not be indoctrination though. It could just be Shepard having a bit of mental breakdown, which would be nice. Seeing him vulnerable for once would make him a lot more human.

So to be more human you need to be a mentally brokendown person? . I rather have indoctrination......

[Dean_the_Young]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Does anyone really care that he dies?

I'd already read about the kid in the GI mag, one of the ME3 articles that came after the one featuring Sheploo on the cover. So now I finally got to see it, I don't feel any differently than when I read it.

This is war, Shepard of all people knows this (at least he/she should). Tragedy is in his background as an Earthborn or Colonist. It is again in his military service: War Hero, Ruthless, Sole Survivor. Why he gets so emotionally affected by some random kid dying is a bit baffling.

Just seems like a weak attempt to make us feel tragedy in the intro scene.

It was a brilliant scene. You first see him playing in the backyard, then you see him trying to escape in the vents, and then you see him get into the shuttle that gets blown up literally at the last minute. If that doesn't add an emotional struggle and is a perfect demonstration of what we're facing, then perhaps you can tell us of an alternative?

Oh, and I did tear up at the end of the Earth beta. Not going to lie about that.

I won't bemoan it too much for other people, but...

I really hope the Renegade line to that duct scene is something like 'stop being a stupid brat.'

And to think, lil' Tony might have survived if he obeyed the galactic-hero authority figure...



But then the Normandy would get a child mascot.

[FoxHound109]

snfonseka wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

Spartanburger wrote...

And how the kid disappears in the vent without a sound just sets off so many warning lights of some mind-****ery going on.

Not only that, but pay attention to the music that plays the moment Shepard looks back and sees that the kid is gone. It's very foreboding. 

It might not be indoctrination though. It could just be Shepard having a bit of mental breakdown, which would be nice. Seeing him vulnerable for once would make him a lot more human.

So to be more human you need to be a mentally brokendown person? . I rather have indoctrination......

No, you just need to be vulnerable, emotionally. I feel like Shepard never ever shows any vulenrability which builds an immense chasm between me and why I should care about him. Indoctrination doesn't make him human though because it's just a control process by machines, not something that comes from Shepard's own traumas and experiences.

[BatmanPWNS]

I felt sorry for him. Also, in reality, I would have cried like mad but since it's only a game the most I felt was a bit of sadness.