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[The dead fish]

Kudos and thanks for the cutscene, Bioware. Don't **** with the Reapers, that's all what the player need to know.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 06 novembre 2011 - 07:13 .

[Foryou]

my question is what's the kids gender

[CptBomBom00]

Do you think that the leak was intentional to see our reactions???????
I think this was intentional to hype us up for some more.

[Arijharn]

CptBomBom00 wrote...

Do you think that the leak was intentional to see our reactions???????
I think this was intentional to hype us up for some more.

Bioware should get a Mission Accomplished screen then imo, because it worked for me. Although; the multiplayer one worked more-so.

[pika9519]

aridor1570 wrote...

I hope I'm not the only one who heard this, but when the shuttle with the kid inside explodes, you can hear a scream.

Paid more close attention and you definitely could.
Unless...we're both going crazy. 

[Troika0]

Bioware's made worse attempts at pathos. I'll reiterate Mr. Gogeta's assessment of the kid's dialogue, however: it wasn't terribly inspired and was laying it on a bit thick.

Modifié par Troika0, 06 novembre 2011 - 11:45 .

[cactusberry]

I think indirect characterization is a great addition to ME3.

[Zakatak757]

GMagnum wrote...

smh if i was dat kid i woulda hid in a trash can or sum shyt how da fk u go fly dat sht rite in front of a reaper? pilot hella dumb

liek totes man ima smok a blunt u no wat im sayin reeperz ned 2 chil an jus smoke bluntz yaheard

[XFemShepX]

DoNotIngest wrote...

GMagnum wrote...

smh if i was dat kid i woulda hid in a trash can or sum shyt how da fk u go fly dat sht rite in front of a reaper? pilot hella dumb

fer reelz bro



seen wuld hit me mor emoshunully if bitz of da kid hit ma Sheperd wen he flu by teh exploshion, ykno?

I'm sorry, normally I frown on this kind of immaturity, but I'm not afraid to admit I lol'd. 

[Labrev]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

If that doesn't add an emotional struggle and is a perfect demonstration of what we're facing, then perhaps you can tell us of an alternative?

No, I can not tell you a better alternative, at least not right now off the top of my head. But, there are many moments throughout the series so far that have done an excellent job conveying emotional, and many of them perfectly subtle in their delivery of it.

I think that's the crux of my issue with this scene - it's intent in drawing an emotional response from the player is  not subtle in the least. I have to agree with those who've called it "cheesy."

The end of Arrival was one of those moments that moved me, as Shepard watched the Alpha Relay get wiped off the galaxy-map. We can't see Shepard's face as it happens - mandatory helmet - but we don't need to. The feeling of that scene is palpable. Knowing that 300,000 civilians just died because of him/her is clearly not lost on Shepard, without seeing a single one of their faces.


Sorry, but some random kid, who is rather obviously not going to make it, doesn't draw an awful lot of sorrow from me especially when I can see it for what it is: a ploy at an emotional, tear-jerker moment. Even in-game, I know that thousands upon thousands of innocents just like that kid are going to die, and it doesn't change anything. I have to do what I have to do to stop it. No time to get hung up over one victim, especially not where I can't prevent it myself and when more will die if I don't move quickly. It's not going to get easier any time soon.

Like the response Shepard can give to the VS after Virmire when asked how he/she dealt with seeing people die in their service-background: "I mourned, later." It's neither paragon or renegade, it's neutral.


I just want to say though, the point of this thread was just to hear what other people thought of this. I wasn't sure how many were seriously affected by this, or how many saw it the way I do.

[Alikain]

The realism about it is because the kid himself said you can’t safe us all. But it was very touching moment seeing how the kid dies.

[Heimdall]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

If that doesn't add an emotional struggle and is a perfect demonstration of what we're facing, then perhaps you can tell us of an alternative?

No, I can not tell you a better alternative, at least not right now off the top of my head. But, there are many moments throughout the series so far that have done an excellent job conveying emotional, and many of them perfectly subtle in their delivery of it.

I think that's the crux of my issue with this scene - it's intent in drawing an emotional response from the player is  not subtle in the least. I have to agree with those who've called it "cheesy."

The end of Arrival was one of those moments that moved me, as Shepard watched the Alpha Relay get wiped off the galaxy-map. We can't see Shepard's face as it happens - mandatory helmet - but we don't need to. The feeling of that scene is palpable. Knowing that 300,000 civilians just died because of him/her is clearly not lost on Shepard, without seeing a single one of their faces.


Sorry, but some random kid, who is rather obviously not going to make it, doesn't draw an awful lot of sorrow from me especially when I can see it for what it is: a ploy at an emotional, tear-jerker moment. Even in-game, I know that thousands upon thousands of innocents just like that kid are going to die, and it doesn't change anything. I have to do what I have to do to stop it. No time to get hung up over one victim, especially not where I can't prevent it myself and when more will die if I don't move quickly. It's not going to get easier any time soon.

Like the response Shepard can give to the VS after Virmire when asked how he/she dealt with seeing people die in their service-background: "I mourned, later." It's neither paragon or renegade, it's neutral.


I just want to say though, the point of this thread was just to hear what other people thought of this. I wasn't sure how many were seriously affected by this, or how many saw it the way I do.

Wait, so you don't think Shepard watching the galaxy map in Arrival was intended to draw an emotional reaction and was somehow subtle

[MrGuild]

Do am I the only one who knows why Shepard feeled bad for the kid dying?

If someone would just see it again and complete then you can see that when Shep just lands on the earth he see the kid playing with an Alliance ship toy very happy, then Shep shows a happy (maybe?) face, then passes all the stuff Reapers attacks and lands and Shep get with the kid again in the ducts, with the Paragon option he wants to help him to get to someplace safe but the kid doesn´t want (who knows what happen when you choose the renegade option), then the kid disappears and they get to the Normandy and Shep see the kid trying to get to the shuttle and  seems a little relieved that he is safe but then pass the "tragical" scene, Shep feels bad because he knew that he could save him but he didn´t so he feels bad then mad.
The kid is an hallucination? I´ve never thinked about that and maybe it´s true O.O

I felt something when i saw the child die, he looked so innocent even knowing that he was going to die.
I don´t know how people here doesn´t felt something looking him, well not my problem and I don´t want to be involved with so forget me.

This is my favorite ME intro by far I prefer this than the death of some other guy that maked more cliche the intro, the game isn´t out yet people so we better don´t judge until we see it, then you can say wathever you want.

[CARL_DF90]

I hope I am not the only one who may think that there is something suspicious about that kid. Something feels off and I am NOT refering to how cheezy some people think the scene is. It's almost as if the kid was an idea planted into Shepard's mind. No one else seemed to have even noticed the kid. Something's not right.

[Arijharn]

I wonder if BioWare is reading this thread; see's all the psychological stuff people are saying: "Is he real?" and then think to themselves: "I didn't think about that, but lets go with it! Lets make the kid some psychological crap Shephard has to deal with!"

Hmm, I hope so

[Labrev]

All I saw of the kid was flying the model-ship and him dying, I'm not aware of the vent-scene people are talking about or where Shepard talks to him. So, maybe that's part of it.

Lord Aesir wrote...
Wait, so you don't think Shepard watching the galaxy map in Arrival was intended to draw an emotional reaction and was somehow subtle

I'm sure it was intended to draw a reaction and definitely far from over-dramatic. There's a clear expectation as to how you should feel about that kid dying: it's terrible, and they've forced Shepard into reacting to it as he/she does. Watching the end of Arrival, you may feel a number of mixed feelings: about the decision, about the costs, about what happened along the way.... but they don't "force it" one way or another. It's palpable.

[Nizzemancer]

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Nizzemancer wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Nizzemancer wrote...

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Hathur wrote...

If I as a "mere" woman can handle that without crying you big burly men can handle something as little as a dropped hammer on the foot :
*snip*

Women often have higher pain thresholds than men. Which is why we are the ones to give birth. :innocent:

No they don't...
Women can handle certain kinds of pain better but overall women have a lower pain-threshold than men.

You will never convince me of that when my life experience has taught me otherwise.

That's funny, because my life experience has taught me the opposite.

Life experience has taught me that arguing over emotions over the internet is silly.

Well, my 'emotions' are backed by scientific studies so...