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Well I leave the thread for a night and see all of the bioware fanboy trolls move in. I've had my fair shares of "I told you so" for me3. Might as well add another one. Well see who's talking come January.
-Polite
Shepard Auto Responses [With Video]
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#252
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:06
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PoliteAssasin wrote...
Well I leave the thread for a night and see all of the bioware fanboy trolls move in. I've had my fair shares of "I told you so" for me3. Might as well add another one. Well see who's talking come January.
-Polite
Your martyrdom is amusing.
There are legitimate concerns about the player's level of control over the character, Shepard, sure. I'd probably prefer it if fewer lines were said without player input. But it's hardly a slippery slope.
I agree with you, for the most part - but seriously, playing Cassandra is tired. People have been prophesising doom far too much lately.
#253
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:07
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ElitePinecone wrote...
PoliteAssasin wrote...
Well I leave the thread for a night and see all of the bioware fanboy trolls move in. I've had my fair shares of "I told you so" for me3. Might as well add another one. Well see who's talking come January.
-Polite
Your martyrdom is amusing.
There are legitimate concerns about the player's level of control over the character, Shepard, sure. I'd probably prefer it if fewer lines were said without player input. But it's hardly a slippery slope.
I agree with you, for the most part - but seriously, playing Cassandra is tired. People have been prophesising doom far too much lately.
Its part of BSN. I can't remember it ever being different.
#254
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:09
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Someone With Mass wrote...
ElitePinecone wrote...
This.
Also, zing,
Why do people love to jump to stupid conclusions?
Why?!
It's BSN. Jumping to retarded conclusions is mandatory.
I don't see a retarded conclusion in that post, buster. You'd better shape up if you expect to stay here long. :-P
#255
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:14
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@elitepinecone: You're right, 7 minutes full of auto dialogue his hardly a slippery slope. I figured that if I posted this before the demo came out, the fanboys would band together and start up their drama. However I did so because I'd rather raise my concerns on the leak, and find out that the demo had more choice rather than not say anything and find out it didn't add any. So come January a more concrete judgement can be given.
-Polite
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#256
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:19
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Sounds more like you were doing exactly what I said you were doing earlier.
Modifié par ODST 5723, 06 novembre 2011 - 05:19 .
#257
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:20
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My the only one that didn't watch it as to not spoil the intro of the game for myself?
(Tbh honest I nearly did but I shut it down after I saw the guy with the fringe at the very start)
(Tbh honest I nearly did but I shut it down after I saw the guy with the fringe at the very start)
#258
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:32
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I'm confused on what the problem is here. Yes there is an "action mode" where a large chuck on the dialogue is picked for you. But there is still "story mode" and "rpg mode" which fucntion just like the Mass Effect we all love. And lets be honest, none of us here are going to play action mode.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:39
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PoliteAssasin wrote...
@elitepinecone: You're right, 7 minutes full of auto dialogue his hardly a slippery slope. I figured that if I posted this before the demo came out, the fanboys would band together and start up their drama. However I did so because I'd rather raise my concerns on the leak, and find out that the demo had more choice rather than not say anything and find out it didn't add any. So come January a more concrete judgement can be given.
-Polite
Right.
And so in four months when there's another seven minutes of auto dialogue you can say you told us so?
I understand your concerns, but really. It's hardly the best idea to be bellicose at a time when the general mood (as far as I've seen) is optimism about the game. At best you're inadvertantly starting a ten page flame war (oops!), and at worst... you knew this and wanted to cause it anyway.
We can argue about the specifics of how much control over Shepard is required, I think you'd get a hundred different answers if you asked the forums. It's Bioware's decision, and I'm pretty happy with the way it's turned out so far. It could be better, but it's not the highest priority.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:40
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goatman42 wrote...
I'm confused on what the problem is here. Yes there is an "action mode" where a large chuck on the dialogue is picked for you. But there is still "story mode" and "rpg mode" which fucntion just like the Mass Effect we all love. And lets be honest, none of us here are going to play action mode.
This.
I want to play a game where I shoot the sh*t out of things in a 3rd person game i'll play GoW3 or Space Marine. When I play Mass Effect I at least have the illusion that i'm affecting loads of things no matter how small. Rather than just the order in which I kill enemies.
#261
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:41
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As if I wasn't geeking out for this game already!
#262
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:44
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Eh, I could argue with Polite, but IsaacShep's doing too good a job for me to bother.
Such a shame that people who make positive contributions to the forums have to spend their time arguing with haters. Oh well. It's BSN.
Such a shame that people who make positive contributions to the forums have to spend their time arguing with haters. Oh well. It's BSN.
#263
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 05:45
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Oh, for the record, people hating on Action Mode annoy me. Not everyone has to play ME the same way you do.
#264
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:04
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Y'know what I really hate, is the way Polite signs all his posts. As if we didn't know who'd written them. It's pompous.
-Zaysh
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:05
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The fact that we have some auto lines does not remove your roleplaying and establish a cannon Shep. I'll try to make it simple:
Malcolm Shepard- Although Malcolm tries to do right by others he has a major blindspot when it comes to batarians ever since the raid on Mindoir. He wants to treat all aliens equally but his unfortunate first encounter with the batarians has colored his perceptions. Through a romance with Liara he evantually learns that not all aliens are like those slavers on Mindoir, he begins to regret his actions on Torfan and sets out to be a better and fairer person evantually culminating with him sparing the rachni, helping the krogan and uniting the geth.
John Shepard- A cold sniper who's life on earth taught him that might makes right, but only when that might is used justly. As the most mighty soldier in the galaxy, John has taken it upon himself to brutally punish all those criminals he meets. It was his actions on Akuze that taught him to value his squad, as such he takes Garrus under his wing and the two share a bromance (hopefully a romance if ME3 delivers but I digress
). John mostly makes Paragon decisions but will never hesitate to crush law breakers.
Marian Shepard- A deadpan snarker with almost no mercy. The raiders on Mindoir made her feel weak and helpless. When she mastered her biotic powers she swore "Never again". Following this she comes off as a bit abrasive and more than just a little bit of jerk. Her decisions often seem cold and sometimes downright evil, but Marian always sees it as justified actions for preserving the galaxy. She lightens up a little bit in ME2 when she meets Thane who helps her to show mercy. On occasion.
Maeko Shepard- Plucky but in no way incompetent, Maeko grew up fairly isolated as a Spacer. She loves her parents and often bases decisions on what they would do in that situation. Maeko looks after her own, especially Liara who she falls in love with. In ME2 she shared a small "thing" with Garrus but evantually ended it out of loyalty to Liara. Maeko enjoys helping people, all people. She sees everyone as inheriently good, even Saren, but this beleif is being shaken during her travels. ME2 sees her becoming more cynical, even to the point of mistrusting the geth and krogan enough to not help them.
NONE of these characters are any less unique because they shared the same conversation.
Malcolm Shepard- Although Malcolm tries to do right by others he has a major blindspot when it comes to batarians ever since the raid on Mindoir. He wants to treat all aliens equally but his unfortunate first encounter with the batarians has colored his perceptions. Through a romance with Liara he evantually learns that not all aliens are like those slavers on Mindoir, he begins to regret his actions on Torfan and sets out to be a better and fairer person evantually culminating with him sparing the rachni, helping the krogan and uniting the geth.
John Shepard- A cold sniper who's life on earth taught him that might makes right, but only when that might is used justly. As the most mighty soldier in the galaxy, John has taken it upon himself to brutally punish all those criminals he meets. It was his actions on Akuze that taught him to value his squad, as such he takes Garrus under his wing and the two share a bromance (hopefully a romance if ME3 delivers but I digress
). John mostly makes Paragon decisions but will never hesitate to crush law breakers. Marian Shepard- A deadpan snarker with almost no mercy. The raiders on Mindoir made her feel weak and helpless. When she mastered her biotic powers she swore "Never again". Following this she comes off as a bit abrasive and more than just a little bit of jerk. Her decisions often seem cold and sometimes downright evil, but Marian always sees it as justified actions for preserving the galaxy. She lightens up a little bit in ME2 when she meets Thane who helps her to show mercy. On occasion.
Maeko Shepard- Plucky but in no way incompetent, Maeko grew up fairly isolated as a Spacer. She loves her parents and often bases decisions on what they would do in that situation. Maeko looks after her own, especially Liara who she falls in love with. In ME2 she shared a small "thing" with Garrus but evantually ended it out of loyalty to Liara. Maeko enjoys helping people, all people. She sees everyone as inheriently good, even Saren, but this beleif is being shaken during her travels. ME2 sees her becoming more cynical, even to the point of mistrusting the geth and krogan enough to not help them.
NONE of these characters are any less unique because they shared the same conversation.
#266
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:09
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CaptainZaysh wrote...
Y'know what I really hate, is the way Polite signs all his posts. As if we didn't know who'd written them. It's pompous.
-Zaysh
It would probably would cut seven minutes out of his posting time if he stopped doing that.
#267
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:36
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CaptainZaysh wrote...
Y'know what I really hate, is the way Polite signs all his posts. As if we didn't know who'd written them. It's pompous.
-Zaysh
Hmmm...I sense a potential BSN meme.
-Ruud
#268
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:39
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Ruud333 wrote...
CaptainZaysh wrote...
Y'know what I really hate, is the way Polite signs all his posts. As if we didn't know who'd written them. It's pompous.
-Zaysh
Hmmm...I sense a potential BSN meme.
-Ruud
You may be right about that.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:42
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Ruud333 wrote...
CaptainZaysh wrote...
Y'know what I really hate, is the way Polite signs all his posts. As if we didn't know who'd written them. It's pompous.
-Zaysh
Hmmm...I sense a potential BSN meme.
-Ruud
Ha ha ha ha!Ruud is like rude. Polite and rude, eh?
I'll just leave.-95
#270
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:49
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I hope the meat of the game is very different from this, the RPG mode not being an RPG would be the final insult.
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Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 06:51
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sevach wrote...
I hope the meat of the game is very different from this, the RPG mode not being an RPG would be the final insult.
I think the point is that the whole game is a RPG. Combat mode just puts more emphasis on the RPG = Combat idea and story mode is more about the Roleplaying. RPG mode is supposed to combine the two.
Were it up to me I would have just called RPG mode "Standard Mode" but whatever. They're both RPG modes, just of a different variety.
#272
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 07:14
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GodWood wrote...
Indeed.Phaedon wrote...
You care just enough to take the time to post that you don't care anymore, apparently.GodWood wrote...
I just don't care anymore.
But I no longer really care about what direction Bioware takes the franchise.
It's clear me and Bioware no longer share the same vision for the ME series or RPGs in general, so I'm just going to pick the game up (eventually), finish the story, enjoy some of the companion's dialogue, ponder the moral quandaries and leave the franchise at that.
As for future Bioware games? I dunno, maybe pick them up when they're in the bargain bin.
Yep exactly how I feel!
#273
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 07:17
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And here I thought I was the only one annoyed by that.CaptainZaysh wrote...
Y'know what I really hate, is the way Polite signs all his posts. As if we didn't know who'd written them. It's pompous.
-Zaysh
-C9
#274
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 07:18
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We should just do it in all of his threads. And Ian Polaris's.
-Zaysh
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#275
Posté 06 novembre 2011 - 07:24
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MatronAdena wrote...
Bioware already allows more player choice than anyone in the industry.
Then you obviously dont played many games in your life...
