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[Jenna WSI]

It seems photoshop refuses my onboard card for the new box, so might as well shop for something nwn likes also.

[Bannor Bloodfist]

Just about any NVidia card will work. I currently use an NVidia GeForce GTS450, which is basically a lower end card, and NWN runs just fine with it under windows XP. That same card was created after Windows 7 was released, so it should work with that version of Windows as well. That card could be found for less than $150 a year ago, and likely lower than $100 now since it is such an older card.

[SuperFly_2000]

I'll second that. I have Nvidia GTX 550i. As that is a somewhat newer card I don't know if it will fit on all computers...

[Pstemarie]

I use an nVidia GeForce GT-240 with 1 GB Ram. They retail for around $80 - $100. Of all the cards I've had over the years I think this is one of the better models I've used with NWN.

[Fester Pot]

I have an older card myself - upgraded from an Nvidia GeForce 4600 TI, which ran NWN just fine - to an Nvidia Geforce 9800 GTX, which also runs the game just fine and my current card.

I built Almraiven and Shadewood on the older GeForce 4600 TI - if you're lucky and can find one, they'd be super cheap - but even the 9800's should be lower in price, if they're still on the market.

FP!

[Gregor Wyrmbane]

 I have a Geforce 9800 gt fanless unit in my PC, running win7 pro and it works as good as anything I've seen. Unfortunately, they're getting very hard to find, and if you do find one they want a lot of money for it.

I installed one of these MSI n210's in my wife's PC, same operating system, and it works very well. She's a photographer and uses Photoshop Lightroom on her PC as well as playing NWN. They are out of stock at Newegg and at Amazon, but here's a link to some on ebay. They are much cheaper than the 9800 gt. 

www.ebay.com/sch/i.html

[Gorath Alpha]

Gregor Wyrmbane wrote...

 I have a Geforce 9800 gt fanless unit in my PC, running win7 pro and it works as good as anything I've seen. Unfortunately, they're getting very hard to find, and if you do find one they want a lot of money for it.

I installed one of these MSI n210's in my wife's PC, same operating system, and it works very well. She's a photographer and uses Photoshop Lightroom on her PC as well as playing NWN. They are out of stock at Newegg and at Amazon, but here's a link to some on ebay. They are much cheaper than the 9800 gt. 

www.ebay.com/sch/i.html

NWN1 is very old, so something as truly awfil as a G 210 will work with it. 

BE VERY CAUTIOUS with such terrible crap as the 210 / 310 / 410 cards.  They are WORSE than most of the recent onboard chipset video chips.  In other words, the card was designed as the cheapest, slowest, worst piece of junk they could make for mere pennies' worth of low quality components and sell for little more than the cost of packaging.  

[Gregor Wyrmbane]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

NWN1 is very old, so something as truly awfil as a G 210 will work with it. 

BE VERY CAUTIOUS with such terrible crap as the 210 / 310 / 410 cards.  They are WORSE than most of the recent onboard chipset video chips.  In other words, the card was designed as the cheapest, slowest, worst piece of junk they could make for mere pennies' worth of low quality components and sell for little more than the cost of packaging.  

I don't know what your personal experience was that prompted you to post what you did, but my own experience with that video card, and the experience of serveral other people I know personally, has been most favorable. It's a very inexpensive card that works much better than any of the onboard video chipsets it replaced. Granted, our PC's are 2 or 3 years old. 

[Gorath Alpha]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Edited.

FYI, nVIDIA is being forced out of the X86 PC business through being unable to compete. AMD and Intel have begun unifying CPUs and GPUs, but nVIDIA is locked out, with no X86 CPU to work with. Instead, they are paying attention to the very highest High End, developing it as a scientific massively parallel CPU, and only "incidentally" as an X86 GPU.

On the other end of the digital performance ladder, they have licensed the ARM architecture to unify graphics for Smartphone applications. In the middle, they are (frequently) overpriced and (often) underpowered for the money. Their own Geforce 9300 (chipset video chip) from three years ago is a better VGA device than the G 210 is, and so are the latest of Intel's Sandy Bridge onboard video chips.

nVIDIA is betting against Intel and AMD, playing at fighting a silly game of one-upmanship while letting their faithful fans drift on the wind.

Compare a G 210's atrocious specs with a three year old GT 240, now a Low End part due to age, previously a Mainline Gaming card:

www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php

This nasty piece of trash can only manage a quarter part as good of a memory system bandwidth,
only half as good of a Pixel Fill Rate,
and only 27% of the Texture Fill Rate.

It's totally lousy.  Previously, where the G 210 has been mentioned, is the fact that it falls short of a six year old game's standards.  Yes, NWN1 is eight years old.  Rather than declaiming far and wide how perfect the little tinker toy is, just admit you aren't a game player at all, and don't know anything about games at all, instead of pretending to graphics expertise.

Look up some benchmarks, why don't you folks?   Even for five year old games? 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:06 .

[Gregor Wyrmbane]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

FYI, nVIDIA is being forced out of the X86 PC business through being unable to compete. AMD and Intel have begun unifying CPUs and GPUs, and nVIDIA is locked out, with no X86 CPU to work with. Instead, they are paying attention to the very highest High End, developing it as a scientific massively parallel CPU, onld "incidentally" as an X86 GPU.

On the other end, they have licensed the ARM architecture to unify graphics for Smartphone applications. In the middle, they are overpriced and underpowered. Their own Geforce 9300 (chipset video chip) from two years ago is a better VGA device than the G 210 is, and so are the latest of Intel's Sandy Bridge onboard video chips.

nVIDIA is betting against Intel and AMD, fighting a silly game of one-upmanship while letting their faithful fans drift on the wind.

Compare its atrocious specs with a three year old GT 240, now a Low End part due to age, previously a Mainline Gaming card:

http://www.gpureview...1=621&card2=620

This nasty piece of trash can only manage a quarter part as good of a memory system bandwidth,
only half as good of a Pixel Fill Rate,
and only 27% of the Texture Fill Rate.

It's totally lousy.

Look up some benchmarks, why don't you?

What does any of that marketing sales pitch have to do with the fact that the card will do exactly what the OP asked for, at a reasonable cost? For about $30.00, it'll play NWN just fine, AND it plays nice with Photoshop. Those are the two things the OP specified.

FYI, not everyone spends a huge percentage of their time playing all the brand new video games. For my wife and myself, NWN is the ONLY video game we play, and only a couple of hours a week at that. She doesn't need a "benchmark" video card that costs hundreds of dollars just to play NWN and edit photos.

And keep your snide comments to yourself. 

[Jenna WSI]

I only play NWN, no time or inclination for other games... I am just not much of a gamer.
Thanks for the info... I'll look up my card and put in the details here. Maybe someone knows why it hates photoshop. It's nVidea but a bit older.

[Gorath Alpha]

Duped instead of edited and there is no delete!

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 07 novembre 2011 - 03:08 .

[Calvinthesneak]

What are you trying to do in Photoshop. Does photoshop use D3D or openGL or something else for driver drawing?

I don't have photoshop so I don't know for sure what your issue is. I am just guessing, but I've seen that issue before.

[Pstemarie]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Gorath Alpha wrote...

It's totally lousy.  Previously, where the G 210 has been mentioned, is the fact that it falls short of a six year old game's standards.  Yes, NWN1 is eight years old.  Rather than declaiming far and wide how perfect the little tinker toy is, just admit you aren't a game player at all, and don't know anything about games at all, instead of pretending to graphics expertise.

Look up some benchmarks, why don't you folks?   Even for five year old games? 

Ignore the ranting of the AMD/ATI fanboy...all it has left are off-topic ravings and inane and abusive verbal attacks on people that disagree with its opinion. FYI, when you post this kind of crap you lose what little credibitlity you have left... 

[Jenna WSI]

On one of my newer boxes, I just installed PS and it won't open ANY image. It starts to, I can see the image, but the program crashes. Another forum with someone having the same issue pointed to a graphics card issue. I updated my drivers to no avail. Granted, it could be an issue with a plug-in.

Modifié par Jenna WSI, 08 novembre 2011 - 04:28 .

[Bannor Bloodfist]

Jenna, likely your issues with PS are the same ones you have had with NWN. It needs to be installed correctly for Win7. Admin account, installed into the (x86) programs section, given full privs etc... I don't pretend to know how this is done, as I have not downgraded to Win7 from XP yet. (Yes, I said downgraded.)

Anyway, I do know that there are ways around the install processes of Win7. If you do Google searches on installing specific programs, you will find solutions to most of them.

[Pstemarie]

Turn of UAC - it causes more problems than it protects against.

[NWN DM]

Pstemarie wrote...

Turn of UAC - it causes more problems than it protects against.

And is a pain in the ass to boot.

An attractive package to be certain.  Almost marriage material, if such a thing were possible (give "society" another 20 years...).

[Pstemarie]

NWN DM wrote...

Pstemarie wrote...

Turn of UAC - it causes more problems than it protects against.

And is a pain in the ass to boot.

The thing people don't realize about UAC is that even if you grant administrator privs to a program, it is - because of UAC - NOT the full access rights that programs once had in earlier versions of windows. This is why some older programs crash on burn on Vista and Windows 7. Once UAC is off any program you set to run as Admin will actually have 100% access, not the 98% it has under the umbrella of UAC.

Modifié par Pstemarie, 09 novembre 2011 - 11:44 .

[Master Jax]

Wow, wow, wow! Neverwinter Nights has to be installed in the (x86) folder for 64 systems? Mine is in the regular Program Files, and it doesn't seem to need full permissions, compatibility checks or administrator running... what are the cons of it being installed this way? Maybe I'm overlooking some issue... As for the videocard thingie, I would definitely go with a GTX 590. I'm hoping to get mine this Christmas... maybe...