Which species would you abandon?
#101
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 02:35
#102
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 02:52
#103
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 03:05
Sohe wrote...
vorcha, because i mean, what use are they really?
They can't get sick these are the guys you want to send into plague and radiation zones just think how useful they'd be on getting any salvageable data from Virmire.
#104
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 03:26
I'd sacrifice Earth itself if it meant saving the whole of galactic civilization.
#105
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 03:31
Destroy Raiden wrote...
They can't get sick these are the guys you want to send into plague and radiation zones just think how useful they'd be on getting any salvageable data from Virmire.
Plague, yes, but radiation, I wouldn't be so sure. The way I understand it, vorcha are immune to organic conditions. A hefty dose of gamma rays would still fry them.
Modifié par Vegos, 08 novembre 2011 - 03:31 .
#106
Guest_greengoron89_*
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 05:03
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#107
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 05:06
greengoron89 wrote...
Vorcha would make great cannon fodder if nothing else - I wouldn't throw them under the bus just yet.
They're not a spacefaring race though. So they don't have much to offer against the Reapers.
#108
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 05:28
I for one welcome the Reapers' giant laser beams of bug destruction on Earth. Like big Fly Zappers.
(Seriously though probably Quarians. I'd much rather have me a legion of Brave Little Flashlights.)
#109
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 06:17
(and really, five pages without the obligatory Turian quote? disappoint)
Modifié par tmp7704, 08 novembre 2011 - 06:17 .
#110
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 06:43
Ok ok I will be serious. I will say the quarians not because I don't like the quarians because I actualy do like them but I view it as a numbers game. The quarians are relatively few (17 million is nothing on a galactic scale) and they have been teetering on the edge of extinction for three centuries now so if it becomes save the quarians or save someone else it is going to be someone else because that someone else will most likely have a higher population. But the only way I will sacrifice any species is if I absolutely have to in order to save everyone else.
#111
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 06:45
And if possible people who like the asari.
#113
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 08:07
That said, if all other things are equal and I had to sacrifice one or more races, I would do it in this order:
1) Yahg - worse than the Batarians, confined to one planet, and no one will miss them if they are gone.
2) Vorcha - Low intelligence, savage scavengers who contribute nothing, their only use would be if the Reapers use a bioweapon attack.
3) Batarians - Lousy culture and government, but possibly salvageable, eventually.
4) Elcor - Not bad as a people, but they don't really contribute anything.
5) Drell - We lose something on the culture end here, but overall impact is small.
6) Hanar - The only ones we ever see are merchants and evangelicals - but I get the feeling they contribute more.
7) Volus - Their main use is after the war, since they are behind the financial system.
8) Turians - Main advantage is their fleet and ground troops, neither of which can beat the Reapers toe to toe.
9) Any of Asari, Salarians, Geth, Krogan, Quarians - each contributes something vital.
10) Humans - We're the target to make new Reapers out of - sacrifice the humans and the Reapers get what they want.
#114
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 08:10
tmp7704 wrote...
It's interesting to note how Ashley gets called a racist for stating that someone could be inclined to make such kind of choice -- the choice based on nothing but the species of these affected...
(and really, five pages without the obligatory Turian quote? disappoint)
Ashley's statement is flawed in a very fundamental way.
You don't send your dog at the bear "because it isn't human". You send it at the bear "because it isn't you".
#115
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 08:15
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#116
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 08:18
Yahg
Vorcha
Batarian
Krogan
Geth
Elcor
Volus
Drell
Hanar
Quarian
Turian
Human
Salarian
Asari
#117
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 08:19
Saphra Deden wrote...
No, you do send the dog because it isn't human. If your choice was to sacrifice your dog or your human best friend which would you send?
The one who's not my best friend. And depending on how much of a weirdo I am, that may be either one of the two.
Or both, just to make sure I make it out.
Really, in such a situation, a person doesn't think about species-related preservation. One only thinks about self-preservation. "Anything, as long as it isn't me".
Also, I feel rather stupind trying to rationalize a decision you don't have time to rationally consider in reality. But I'd likely turn my back on both if that meant I got away. Self-preservation overrides everything else when you're staring death in the face.
Or rather I'd drop down and play dead, or at least try to.
Modifié par Vegos, 08 novembre 2011 - 08:20 .
#118
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 08:25
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Vegos wrote...
The one who's not my best friend. And depending on how much of a weirdo I am, that may be either one of the two.
You would sacrifice a human being to save a ****ing dog? Are you a crazy person or what? I'm glad I'm not your "friend".
#119
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 09:12
Saphra Deden wrote...
Vegos wrote...
The one who's not my best friend. And depending on how much of a weirdo I am, that may be either one of the two.
You would sacrifice a human being to save a ****ing dog? Are you a crazy person or what? I'm glad I'm not your "friend".
I'm pretty sure he said he'd sacrifice his dog AND his best friend if it was the only way for him to survive.
#120
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 09:15
Saphra Deden wrote...
You would sacrifice a human being to save a ****ing dog? Are you a crazy person or what? I'm glad I'm not your "friend".
Don't know. Never was in such a situation. Never likely to be. Can't rationalize. Would happen too fast, no time to think.
Also, I don't even HAVE a dog.
But, honest answer? I have no idea what I'd do. I'd have no idea what I did for another few days after doing it, most likely. Also, whatever I'd do, I'd do it to save myself.
(Just be glad I didn't twist the argument and go "And you'd save a <insert historically evil and unlikeable person here> instead of your trusty canine companion, just because one is human ant the other isn't?" That'd be a retort true to the spirit of internet you so well presented)
Modifié par Vegos, 08 novembre 2011 - 09:24 .
#121
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 09:25
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Symji wrote...
I'm pretty sure he said he'd sacrifice his dog AND his best friend if it was the only way for him to survive.
I know, but that wasn't relevant to the dilemma described.
You don't have to sacrifice both to survive, only one. You make a conscious choice.
Which do you choose? Dog or human?
#122
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 09:26
Saphra Deden wrote...
You make a conscious choice.
In a life or death situation? No, you don't.
#123
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 09:29
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Vegos wrote...
In a life or death situation? No, you don't.
Sure you do provided you aren't a panicky person.
Regardless, you are over-thinking the dilemma to a ridiculous degree in an attempt to discredit it. It was just an analogy.
#124
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 09:42
Saphra Deden wrote...
Vegos wrote...
The one who's not my best friend. And depending on how much of a weirdo I am, that may be either one of the two.
You would sacrifice a human being to save a ****ing dog? Are you a crazy person or what? I'm glad I'm not your "friend".
Dogs are certainly much more likeable than some humans I have met.
#125
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Posté 08 novembre 2011 - 09:43
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KotorEffect3 wrote...
Dogs are certainly much more likeable than some humans I have met.
Sure, but if you kill those humans for the sake of your dog then you are a much worse person than they are.





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