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[Reptilian Rob]

Yuoaman wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

*Spoiler* 

The Rachni Queen is somehow still alive, because "LOL indoctrination." Really?

And of course that makes you the only one who knows how to properly tell this story. Obviously.


*SPOILER*

And there could have been other unhatched queens floating around in space - it's not that big of a stretch really.

Well, at the very least my stories are coherent and make sense from my previous writings. I never force a reader or even as an editor force a writer to compromise my/his/her plot settings or characters in the name of mass print.

And yes, it is that big of a stretch when the exact words in Mass Effect were "This is the last of her speices, we can't just condem her." Being that all other Rachni were under indoctrination or insane from being away from the queen. To just have a magical queen float out of nowhere would be a slap in the face to the fans who killed her off in the first game, making their choice mean effectivly, nothing. 

That is good writing, making the story coherent and canocle.

[D.Kain]

1136342t54 wrote...

I'm assuming this person above is lying when it comes to spoilers?

As in?

[HBC Dresden]

Thanks Jesse, especially for your service this entire weekend, which must have been hell (at least fan response is enormously positive)! To start off with, I will abandon the forums for a couple weeks to weather the storm (except to check my PMs and to see if didymos put out new deleted ME2 content).

From there, I will gauge whether or not staying on BSN the couple months before March will be a good idea (but in December to see how to get the demo early). And right before ME3 comes out, I will stay away. And when ME3 comes out, I will be too busy playing this awesome game (pre-ordered CE and everything from EA). (But I will be eagerly waiting for the return of Cerberus Daily News in a month of two.) Consequently, this may be goodbye from these forums for a long time, but for a good reason: keep my experience of ME3 pure like I did for ME1 (did not really know what the game was about beforehand and therefore was one of the best, if not the best, gaming experiencing I've ever had).

Over and out!

[1136342t54_]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

I'm assuming this person above is lying when it comes to spoilers?

Nope, totally not. I'm afraid it's all in the spoilers.

Well luckily I didn't read much beyond "Why yes". Either that or I immediately forgot it.

[Yuoaman]

Canadish wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

*Spoiler* 

The Rachni Queen is somehow still alive, because "LOL indoctrination." Really?

And of course that makes you the only one who knows how to properly tell this story. Obviously.


*SPOILER*

And there could have been other unhatched queens floating around in space - it's not that big of a stretch really.

That denial! Oh god it's adorable.

"Its perfectly feasable! Really! And it doesn't leave our previous choice pointless! I'm to emotinally invested in this series to admit it's gone dreadfully wrong! :crying:"

Denial? Yeah, sure, that's exactly what believing there to be a perfectly reasonable explanation is. That's exactly what it is.

[Balek-Vriege]

Canadish wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

*Spoiler* 

/snip

And of course that makes you the only one who knows how to properly tell this story. Obviously.


*SPOILER*

And there could have been other unhatched queens floating around in space - it's not that big of a stretch really.

That denial! Oh god it's adorable.

"Its perfectly feasable! Really! And it doesn't leave our previous choice pointless! I'm to emotinally invested in this series to admit it's gone dreadfully wrong! :crying:"

Have you actually read the dialogue part with that information or just the point form?  Are you 100% sure it's the same alien NPC?

[ciaweth]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

<snipped quasi-pseudo-spoiler>

You know I love you, but if you're going to tout your creative writing prowess, you gotta get your apostrophes right.

Also, you don't know the story yet.  As someone earlier pointed out, even LotR would sound stupid when condensed and summarized at the level that these spoilers were.  So I say this with respect, but it's time to chill.  Five years from now, you will not give a tinker's damn about this issue.

[1136342t54_]

D.Kain wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

I'm assuming this person above is lying when it comes to spoilers?

As in?

Not you.

[MisterJB]

misinformation

Modifié par MisterJB, 07 novembre 2011 - 06:04 .

[staindgrey]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Again I see people overreacting about things they do not fully understand. We're missing context so don't judge just yet.

Bioware: "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh; you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."

[Darth_Ravor]

St.Eve needs to go die in a whole somewhere.

[Confused-Shepard]

Why are people forgetting that the dialogue refers to a non-imported fresh play-through. Of course Wrex seems to be alive... unless you killed him back in Mass Effect 1. Should I complain about the appearance of Garrus even though he died in front of me in the Suicide Mission?

It's like someone posted random bits of code. It's all jumbled and without context.
Not to mention no decisions are mention so a character who we thought would die, can be saved

[ElitePinecone]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

*Spoiler* 

The Rachni Queen is somehow still alive, because "LOL indoctrination." Really?

...

"degree's"?

[1136342t54_]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Why are people forgetting that the dialogue refers to a non-imported fresh play-through. Of course Wrex seems to be alive... unless you killed him back in Mass Effect 1. Should I complain about the appearance of Garrus even though he died in front of me in the Suicide Mission?

It's like someone posted random bits of code. It's all jumbled and without context.
Not to mention no decisions are mention so a character who we thought would die, can be saved

This. I haven't read it but I assumed it was in regards to a non imported playthrough. 

[Yuoaman]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

*Spoiler* 

The Rachni Queen is somehow still alive, because "LOL indoctrination." Really?

And of course that makes you the only one who knows how to properly tell this story. Obviously.


*SPOILER*

And there could have been other unhatched queens floating around in space - it's not that big of a stretch really.

Well, at the very least my stories are coherent and make sense from my previous writings. I never force a reader or even as an editor force a writer to compromise my/his/her plot settings or characters in the name of mass print.

And yes, it is that big of a stretch when the exact words in Mass Effect were "This is the last of her speices, we can't just condem her." Being that all other Rachni were under indoctrination or insane from being away from the queen. To just have a magical queen float out of nowhere would be a slap in the face to the fans who killed her off in the first game, making their choice mean effectivly, nothing. 

That is good writing, making the story coherent and canocle.

Yes, because Shepard had previously gone over ever square inch of space in the Milky Way, determining for sure that she was the last. As well, who's to say that the Reapers don't have the technology to synthesize new creatures? WAIT THEY KIND OF ALREADY DO. All they would have to do is create a new queen based off of tissue gathered on Noveria.

Also, it's "canonical".

[ArkkAngel007]

St. Eve wrote...

100k wrote...

I haven't done more than glanced at the spoilers, but I'm wondering if there's any mention of Kai Leng?

*Spoilers...blah, blah, blah*

Yo dawg, I heard you like choices...oh.

Seriously though, why mention the details?  Whether or not they are true in the final game, this isn't the thread to go into the details.  Either make your own thread (good luck, they keep getting locked) or just keep it to yourself or in PM.  

I get it, it's exciting, but let's try to keep some control of this.  There are ways of being excited then spouting off key scenes.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 07 novembre 2011 - 06:02 .

[St. Eve]

Alistair4Ever wrote...

St.Eve needs to go die in a whole somewhere.

You are wishing death upon me because of a video game? Have thou no value for human life?

Edit: Yeah, sorry for the details. Wrong thread. Didn't notice this was the "light spoilers" only thread.

Modifié par St. Eve, 07 novembre 2011 - 06:03 .

[Confused-Shepard]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

*Spoiler* 

The Rachni Queen is somehow still alive, because "LOL indoctrination." Really?

...

"degree's"?

The Rachni Queen is alive because... you saved her on Noveria 

[Zanallen]

ElitePinecone wrote...

...

"degree's"?

That would be the Clarion University education kicking in.

[Balek-Vriege]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

As someone who revels in story creation and creative writing, who holds two degree's in the field and has attended the Clarion University of science fiction and fantasy writing at UCSD, I can safely say that the story is a jumbled mess of pretenses and linearity that provides little to no player choice from the previous two games. 

*Spoiler* 

The Rachni Queen is somehow still alive, because "LOL indoctrination." Really?

And of course that makes you the only one who knows how to properly tell this story. Obviously.


*SPOILER*

And there could have been other unhatched queens floating around in space - it's not that big of a stretch really.

Well, at the very least my stories are coherent and make sense from my previous writings. I never force a reader or even as an editor force a writer to compromise my/his/her plot settings or characters in the name of mass print.

And yes, it is that big of a stretch when the exact words in Mass Effect were "This is the last of her speices, we can't just condem her." Being that all other Rachni were under indoctrination or insane from being away from the queen. To just have a magical queen float out of nowhere would be a slap in the face to the fans who killed her off in the first game, making their choice mean effectivly, nothing. 

That is good writing, making the story coherent and canocle.

Again you should know that statement was made from Shepard and partially the Rachni Queen's point of view...  It can be wrong.  The galaxy thought all Rachni were extinct before Noveria so the same logic can be applied to ME1.  Was that bad writing as well?

[Chala]

1136342t54 wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Why are people forgetting that the dialogue refers to a non-imported fresh play-through. Of course Wrex seems to be alive... unless you killed him back in Mass Effect 1. Should I complain about the appearance of Garrus even though he died in front of me in the Suicide Mission?

It's like someone posted random bits of code. It's all jumbled and without context.
Not to mention no decisions are mention so a character who we thought would die, can be saved

This. I haven't read it but I assumed it was in regards to a non imported playthrough. 

Yep, it's the same thing I think.
Specially considering the fact that it was extracted from a half made demo that doesn't give you the option of import your character...