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[Yuoaman]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

NitrAce wrote...

Look man all I know is both blind optimism and cynic pessimism are both stupid and make people look like tools. You can't just be putting everything down constantly or accepting it without question, when you do these in excess that it feels retarded. I'm still going to be skeptical about this whole thing but that doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to the game. It also doesn't mean what I've been hearing hasn't put me off or scared me of what could be. So people just stop and think for a while instead of picking on each other and the infighting we should be asking for some more clarity and some solid reassurance that the game is on the right track.
None of that flimsy bull**** we've been getting in the past months where Bioware just skirts around every question, comment and concern. I'm a fan god dammit, it's the least I should expect.

BIoware. Is. Not. Your. ****.

Just because you're a fan doesn't mean Bioware owes you anything at all.

You're totally right; it's the fact that we're the consumer, and they're providing a service that means they should tell us about the game.

But they aren't providing a service... they're providing a product.

It's like asking an author to e-mail each of their fans summaries of each chapter as they're written - it's just silly.

Interesting comparison...but I have to disagree. You don't sink twenty, thirty, forty hours into a book (at least on one read), you don't pay sixty dollars for a book. I'm trying to think of a good comparison, not sure there is one. It's a greater investment than a book, is what I'm saying, so it requires greater knowledge about the product.

A new hardback book can cost anywhere from $30 to $50 depending on the number of pages, and most books I buy last me anywhere from ten hours for short books to fifty or sixty hours. Games and books are on the same scale, as far as a time sink, really.

[Yuoaman]

NitrAce wrote...

So I can't have expectations now? What is this tomfoolery. Let me break down "least I should expect" for you.
I'm expecting an answer from Bioware. I can either get it or I won't. Will I go around punching walls in either scenario, no I won't. I'm just hoping to get it because I've paid and will pay them money in the future. I'm their consumer, I should have the expectation of receiving some sort of information from them about the product they are providing me. Why? Because that's what this whole forum business is about. Doesn't mean they should give it to me personally because I demand it. 

Seriously, I'm only expecting an answer. Are you really that thick?

Why would you expect something that they've given no inclination toward giving is my question.

[NitrAce]

Yuoaman wrote...

NitrAce wrote...

So I can't have expectations now? What is this tomfoolery. Let me break down "least I should expect" for you.
I'm expecting an answer from Bioware. I can either get it or I won't. Will I go around punching walls in either scenario, no I won't. I'm just hoping to get it because I've paid and will pay them money in the future. I'm their consumer, I should have the expectation of receiving some sort of information from them about the product they are providing me. Why? Because that's what this whole forum business is about. Doesn't mean they should give it to me personally because I demand it. 

Seriously, I'm only expecting an answer. Are you really that thick?

Why would you expect something that they've given no inclination toward giving is my question.

Okay well, I concede. If we are going to sink to semantics anyways, I'll just say "HOPING". Does that make you feel better? An answer is the least I could hope for being a fan of their work. 

[Reptilian Rob]

Yuoaman wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

NitrAce wrote...

Look man all I know is both blind optimism and cynic pessimism are both stupid and make people look like tools. You can't just be putting everything down constantly or accepting it without question, when you do these in excess that it feels retarded. I'm still going to be skeptical about this whole thing but that doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to the game. It also doesn't mean what I've been hearing hasn't put me off or scared me of what could be. So people just stop and think for a while instead of picking on each other and the infighting we should be asking for some more clarity and some solid reassurance that the game is on the right track.
None of that flimsy bull**** we've been getting in the past months where Bioware just skirts around every question, comment and concern. I'm a fan god dammit, it's the least I should expect.

BIoware. Is. Not. Your. ****.

Just because you're a fan doesn't mean Bioware owes you anything at all.

You're totally right; it's the fact that we're the consumer, and they're providing a service that means they should tell us about the game.

But they aren't providing a service... they're providing a product.

It's like asking an author to e-mail each of their fans summaries of each chapter as they're written - it's just silly.

Interesting comparison...but I have to disagree. You don't sink twenty, thirty, forty hours into a book (at least on one read), you don't pay sixty dollars for a book. I'm trying to think of a good comparison, not sure there is one. It's a greater investment than a book, is what I'm saying, so it requires greater knowledge about the product.

A new hardback book can cost anywhere from $30 to $50 depending on the number of pages, and most books I buy last me anywhere from ten hours for short books to fifty or sixty hours. Games and books are on the same scale, as far as a time sink, really.

A game is a much larger investment because it requires far more fan interaction, and considerable time investment when considering things like DLC and updates. 
A book is a book and it is read, experienced. A game is played and requires the developers to make it assessible to everyone.

[Raiders Fan 223]

I just looked at a few of the relatively minor spoilers, because I know that I couldn't help myself.

Theres no way I was going to be able to resist until March.

[MartinDN]

Glad, i saw the beta but i didnt read any story leaks i would of been super pissed if i didm i feel for you guys who actually did see it, how bad was it like the whole game spoiled ?

Modifié par MartinDN, 07 novembre 2011 - 08:18 .

[Yuoaman]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

A new hardback book can cost anywhere from $30 to $50 depending on the number of pages, and most books I buy last me anywhere from ten hours for short books to fifty or sixty hours. Games and books are on the same scale, as far as a time sink, really.

Well I guess I'm behind the times, because I own books like War and Peace that cost less than ten bucks. And that's a lot of time for one read. I read my books over and over (probably accumulated more time in reading Hardy Boys books than anything else) but that seems like a lot for one read.

Well I usually get ridiculously long books, and I'm the kind of guy who has to stop every five minutes and see if I can cross-reference a name dropped with something mentioned in Chapter One and stuff - so my numbers will probably be skewed ridiculously.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Guys this is most likely an old version of the script as Jesse has said. In an article last month someone was saying how you were on a mission with Thane to rescue some Hanar scientist who could cure his disease. The person who wrote the article was able to play that mission apparently. That mission isn't in the leaked document. Rest assured most of this stuff has probably changed.

-Polite

[St. Eve]

I think someone in here was asking about Admiral Xen?

Not sure if somebody answered you already as I can't be bothered to ready everything but yeah, she does make an appearance.

Modifié par St. Eve, 07 novembre 2011 - 08:25 .

[Jaron Oberyn]

I don't know, the article didn't mention that.

-Polite

[Yuoaman]

He could be cured.

Or not. We don't know.

[marstor05]

just read through and i dont see what all the negative fuss is about. its gonna be kick ass fun to play through this.

I wont give any spoilers away to anyone who might not have read though the notes, but there are some surprising twists and turns. TIM is still a dick tho.

[CroGamer002]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

patocerda wrote...

Thank you Jesse, I just wish there was some sort of punishmnt to the inconsiderate guys who are already posting spoilers just for troll's sake.

There is. Ban their EA account and lock them out of their EA games. Simple.

Trolls use phony acounts and change their IP with some program.
I think it's Proxy.

[CroGamer002]

Brockololly wrote...

This sucks for the devs, especially with it being a solid 5 months or so before the game even comes out.

And even though its seemingly Microsoft's fault for putting the beta up, the same thing happened with DA2 and DAO with files uncovering the plot, albeit that happened much closer to release in those cases.

You know what EA/Bioware needs to do?

Get full rights on ME1.



PS3 will have ME1 in 2013!

Modifié par Mesina2, 07 novembre 2011 - 09:00 .

[CroGamer002]

Lenimph wrote...

*enters girl mode*

Seriously no LI spoilers... that's so not cool

*exists girl mode*

That's because this leak is outdates E3 and Bioware started to write romances last month.

[CroGamer002]

jreezy wrote...

Warden130 wrote...

This has happened again? I remember when there were a few weeks left till ME2 came out. And a couple of pricks decided to post a major ME2 spoiler in the forums (In the title of their threads as well >_>) from their pirated ME2 copies. Too bad that it seems to have happened again.

Too bad it's a few months this time instead of weeks.

Remember that on Black Ops forum.


Also I heard same happen on MW3 forum yesterday( from miracleofsound, I don't want to even look at that game).

[LGTX]

Many plot descriptions were repeated and differed vastly in details and narrative, so I'd say this is a heavily unedited early script chunk AT BEST. And not just to console myself, it really seems so. Personally, things like these don't spoil much for me. In five months, I'll remember maybe a fraction of it, but the immersion will still do its job, I'm sure of it.

Modifié par LGTX, 07 novembre 2011 - 08:51 .

[Confused-Shepard]

Mesina2 wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

*enters girl mode*

Seriously no LI spoilers... that's so not cool

*exists girl mode*

That's because this leak is outdates E3 and Bioware started to write romances last month.

There is this really sweet e-mail your LI sends you complete with a tiny heart after the text

[MrChowderClam]

marstor05 wrote...

just read through and i dont see what all the negative fuss is about. its gonna be kick ass fun to play through this.

I wont give any spoilers away to anyone who might not have read though the notes, but there are some surprising twists and turns. TIM is still a dick tho.

^ This, I couldn't help myself D:

I can see how some people would be angry at some of the twists, although I think they're tastefully done. I'm really loving the darker feel.

[NitrAce]

Mesina2 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

This sucks for the devs, especially with it being a solid 5 months or so before the game even comes out.

And even though its seemingly Microsoft's fault for putting the beta up, the same thing happened with DA2 and DAO with files uncovering the plot, albeit that happened much closer to release in those cases.

You know what EA/Biwoane needs to do?

Get full rights on ME1.



PS3 will have ME1 in 2013!

Hi that is Microsoft, you should meet.

Modifié par NitrAce, 07 novembre 2011 - 08:57 .

[Reptilian Rob]

NitrAce wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

This sucks for the devs, especially with it being a solid 5 months or so before the game even comes out.

And even though its seemingly Microsoft's fault for putting the beta up, the same thing happened with DA2 and DAO with files uncovering the plot, albeit that happened much closer to release in those cases.

You know what EA/Biwoane needs to do?

Get full rights on ME1.



PS3 will have ME1 in 2013!

Hi that is Microsoft, you should meet.

Yeah, haha. Never going to happen. 

The game was published by Microsoft Gaming Studios, they wont part with it unless EA shells out big money.