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[Iakus]

Arkitekt wrote...

iakus wrote...

Think of it as Horizon x12.

That bad, huh?

Then again, from the silly things you said about ME2, perhaps it's not time to worry.

Believe it or not, the spoilers I've seen don't worry me too much.  It's clearly unfinished and incomplete work.

The comparison is people rage when they see a character they like being unfairly treated (to their mind).  But when it's a character they're indifferent to or dislike,  "Deal with it!"

That's what's happening here.  RIghtly or wrongly.

[wildannie]

1136342t54 wrote...

wildannie wrote...
Yeah, well It's not really a galactic war... it's a game that is meant to offer the player choice.  If the same character dies in the same scenario every time... that gets very old very quickly.  I'm referring to squadmates an LIs here, not other NPCs.

Your so right because all games are obligated to give the player all the choices possible. Don't use that "its a game" bs as an argument. I can easily say you shouldn't worry about it since its a game. The setting is a Galactic war in which you will lose some people you care about. Plus I can't really trust you necessarily on the very old rough draft not giving player choice for a number of reasons that I listed above.

Now I'm gone.

not all games... choice is used to promote Mass Effect so I expect to be able to make choices, hardly unreasonable.  
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I haven't read the spoilers and I hope that there will be more choices that are not included in the leaked script.  

Unavoidable LI deaths will massively dent my enjoyment of the game.  

[KenKenpachi]

Yeah would be nice if they gave a general idea of how much of it is outdated.

[Siven80]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Am i the only one who actualy supports scripted deaths?
Not only it makes things more realistic, it also shows that Shepard can't save everyone.

You're not the only one 

[Ianamus]

Gah!

I don't want any spoilers about the story or what happens, but I really want to know what the different LI options will be (mostly interested in whatever new ones there will be). 

I know it's not worth potentially spoiling the game trying to find out but it is tempting.

Can anybody at least confirm if those sort of details were realeased or if it was all spoilery/story/deaths information? It would save me a lot of grief. 

wildannie wrote...

Unavoidable LI deaths will massively dent my enjoyment of the game.  

I have no problem with the idea of definite deaths over all as long as LI's are not involved, as players can get very emotionally attatched to them. Thane is an exception since we already know he is dying.

I have no problem with having to choose between 2 popular characters, but I don't want those sort of characters to die no matter what. 

Modifié par EJ107, 07 novembre 2011 - 06:24 .

[mineralica]

Justicar wrote...

What's this whole "Horizon x12/5" I'm seeing?

What aspect of Horizon, exactly?

H-mission had many aspects?

I think "H*****n x12/5" referred to supposed roles of some characters and how "in character" they were. x5 is clearly underestimation while x12 is too much.

[Mclouvins]

EJ107 wrote...

Gah!

I don't want any spoilers about the story or what happens, but I really want to know what the different LI options will be (mostly interested in whatever new ones there will be). 

I know it's not worth potentially spoiling the game trying to find out but it is tempting.

Can anybody at least confirm if those sort of details were realeased or if it was all spoilery/story/deaths information? It would save me a lot of grief. 

Pretty sure Casey said a while ago that there were no new love interests. Of course that doesn't tell us wether or not you could romance someone for the first time, say Ashley if you romanced Liara in ME1 but no new character LI's.

[Ianamus]

Mclouvins wrote...

Pretty sure Casey said a while ago that there were no new love interests. Of course that doesn't tell us wether or not you could romance someone for the first time, say Ashley if you romanced Liara in ME1 but no new character LI's.

A few months later they set back ME3's release and confirmed that there will be new LI's and s/s options. 

[KenKenpachi]

Mclouvins wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Gah!

I don't want any spoilers about the story or what happens, but I really want to know what the different LI options will be (mostly interested in whatever new ones there will be). 

I know it's not worth potentially spoiling the game trying to find out but it is tempting.

Can anybody at least confirm if those sort of details were realeased or if it was all spoilery/story/deaths information? It would save me a lot of grief. 

Pretty sure Casey said a while ago that there were no new love interests. Of course that doesn't tell us wether or not you could romance someone for the first time, say Ashley if you romanced Liara in ME1 but no new character LI's.

Actully its been stated there would be several, when that was first annouced the community had a **** storm, so it was changed, some older Squadies will be LI's some new ones, and some will be bi or homosexual.

[jlb524]

EJ107 wrote...

Can anybody at least confirm if those sort of details were realeased or if it was all spoilery/story/deaths information? It would save me a lot of grief. 

No LI info is known.

[ratzerman]

Best part is... the spoilers are so ridiculous, I would never have believed them if Bioware hadn't confirmed that they are (or at least were) legit.

[Blooddrunk1004]

Can someone plz pm me the link for the script, i couldn't find it anywhere.

[Justicar]

I didn't see any problems with Horizon. 0_0

[wildannie]

EJ107 wrote...

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I have no problem with the idea of definite deaths over all as long as LI's are not involved, as players can get very emotionally attatched to them. Thane is an exception since we already know he is dying.

I have no problem with having to choose between 2 popular characters, but I don't want those sort of characters to die no matter what. 

I'm a Thane fan and the last thing I want from ME3 is for him to always die.  They can cure death in ME<_<

[Jaron Oberyn]

iakus wrote...
inished and incomplete work.

The comparison is people rage when they see a character they like being unfairly treated (to their mind).  But when it's a character they're indifferent to or dislike,  "Deal with it!"

That's what's happening here.  RIghtly or wrongly.

Pal, unfortunately it seems everyone will be raging, not a select few. Read the script and you'll know what I mean. I just read it again and wow is it linear. I hope it's just because they need to get a basic structure down, because if this is final it'd be as variable as GoW3's campaign, which wasn't at all. I'm not going to jump ship just yet, but looking at the story as it is in this leak it's 100% linear action > scripted sequence of shepard > action > scripted sequence > action. Additionally, I hope none of you guys have gotten too attached to the squadmates of ME1/ME2... And I'm not referring to the fact that they're getting small/medium cameos.... 


-Polite

[Captain Crash]

How embaressing.

First the beta leak and now this!      Certainly isnt Biowares week!  

[Jaron Oberyn]

jlb524 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Can anybody at least confirm if those sort of details were realeased or if it was all spoilery/story/deaths information? It would save me a lot of grief. 

No LI info is known.

Not true. Reference to "Ashley Romance Culmination Scene" is in there.

-Polite

[Ianamus]

jlb524 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Can anybody at least confirm if those sort of details were realeased or if it was all spoilery/story/deaths information? It would save me a lot of grief. 

No LI info is known.

Thank you! 

I guess I'm going to avoid those spoilers like the plague then. I'm dying for new ME3 info, but a whole concept script for the game is really going to far. 

[DarthSliver]

Siven80 wrote...

People who cancel their orders over these leaks arent real fans anyway so i really wont miss them.

I had a quick glance through the leaks but stopped before i got to anything big, so i dont see much of a problem so far.

Still getting the game, still going to enjoy it and the story.

I agree with this statement.

I already decided to give ME3 a chance because its my favorite series and I only am giving it a chance because ME2 was ported to the PS3, I essential will have played all 3 games once ME3 is out but wont experienced it like 360 players have. My 360 has never worked right once it returned from Microsoft and being fixed. But like i was saying ME3 I think will be my last Bioware title if it turns out to be all talk like DA2 was and turns out to be something else like DA2. DA2 sounded awesome but it wasnt, it was medicore and a forgettable experience, I find Bioware titles to be memorable games that have this sense of purpose and meaning when playing them. I am not going to let some rough draft sway my decision when it comes to my preorder with ME3, but I will let ME3 decide if I still stand with Bioware or not after I have played the game.  

[PsychoWARD23]

Yeah, thanks for clarifying, too bad some trolls spoiled some major stuff for me on purpose, and then non-trolls spoiled some more stuff for me by accident.

[FSOAH]

Anyone mind sending me a link to the spoilers on PM?

[TheRealJayDee]

ratzerman wrote...

Some of this stuff is just sadistic. Bioware has a funny way of rewarding players for getting emotionally invested in their stories.

I have not read any of the leaked stuff, but I have to say that it's okay to be cruel when it comes to dealing with beloved characters. Doing things like that can be very impactful and intense. If, and that's a big if, it is done well. And if it corresponds with the the player's actions and is not just universally scripted. Sadly DA2 failed completely at affecting me emotionally, and I'm unsure how much better the ME writers actually are.

Geth_Prime wrote...

@KingDan97

People like that who make baseless assumptions don't deserve ME3 to be honest. The constant hate for the CANON DRAFT story is getting on my nerves.

Oh yeah, people who make assumptions based on things they read have to be wrong. People who make assumptions based on their feeling that everything will be alright clearly are the only ones who should be allowed to voice their opinion.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

iakus wrote...
inished and incomplete work.

The comparison is people rage when they see a character they like being unfairly treated (to their mind).  But when it's a character they're indifferent to or dislike,  "Deal with it!"

That's what's happening here.  RIghtly or wrongly.

Pal, unfortunately it seems everyone will be raging, not a select few. Read the script and you'll know what I mean. I just read it again and wow is it linear. I hope it's just because they need to get a basic structure down, because if this is final it'd be as variable as GoW3's campaign, which wasn't at all. I'm not going to jump ship just yet, but looking at the story as it is in this leak it's 100% linear action > scripted sequence of shepard > action > scripted sequence > action. Additionally, I hope none of you guys have gotten too attached to the squadmates of ME1/ME2... And I'm not referring to the fact that they're getting small/medium cameos.... 


-Polite

I'm pretty certain that's exactly what it is, a collection of general events that they want to take place over the course of the game.  The thing I noticed is there's never a direct connection between said events; something like "we go to planet Y AFTER planet X because..." is not stated anywhere.  We just got some of the major plot points and events combined into this script, with no real timeline or anything.  And that's pretty much it (disregarding side mission and weapons lists for now, just addressing the linearity issue).  I'm guessing that we will most likely be able to go about tackling each event/objective in the game in the order we want, and probably ME1 style where certain missions may not unlock until we have completed others (like Virmire unlocking later in ME1, there is in fact one particular mission from ME3 in this script that wouldn't make sense to happen before another one)

[Iakus]

mineralica wrote...

Justicar wrote...

What's this whole "Horizon x12/5" I'm seeing?

What aspect of Horizon, exactly?

H-mission had many aspects?

I think "H*****n x12/5" referred to supposed roles of some characters and how "in character" they were. x5 is clearly underestimation while x12 is too much.

I did "Horizonx12" just because there were twelve squaddies in ME2.  Could just as easily have been X10, x15, x20, etc;)

Many people (including me) think the VS got shafted in thst scene, a brief, arguably ooc scene and that's all we get.  It was enough to get people to vow to kill the VS if they got the chance to in ME3 and seriously discouraged those who had them as a LI.  

Now with this leaked stuff, people are fearing for other favored characters, that perhaps they will end up getting "Horizoned" as well.  Brief appearances, ooc attitude, shuffled off the stage with little ceremony or worse, an ignomious death.