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CptBomBom00 wrote...

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Need to repost what I said earlier in another (closed) thread:

The more often I read what I've got of the story, the more I think it's not that bad. Actually, it's a lot of drama, some hard decisions and emotional stuff. Isn't it what we wanted? Stuff to cry about, decisions over life and death and emotions, emotions, emotions?

That leaked story is not even 25% of the game. It's just the main plot. There are 75% of the game to explore - assignments, dialogues, banter, love story arc ... there's so much more to explore. Yes, I got spoiled, but I wanted to read it. No it doesn't change my view on ME3. I still want it. I want to give Shepard that last fight and I want to see "my" perfect ending with my LI and everything.

So ... that's it.


This is perfect post.^^^^^^^


Yep.  Again all the criticisms about ME3 not having any real choices should be put to rest.  Now it will be the exact opposite complains:  Too many hard decisions.
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mikkois wrote...

OH MY GOD IS THAT IT. I can not believe it.:blink: There must be more than 2 endings though.

There is actually, one other

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There are more, from what I understand there are 3 endings, one of them has different veriables.


Three endings with different variables for one of the endings? Okay that sounds pretty awesome but I would prefer a fourth ending just because  :D

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Honestly, I've read the spoilers in their entirety, and I find the people decrying the plot as ridiculous and hackneyed to be acting in a patently absurd manner. Bearing in mind that this is just a script with a rough outline full of writer's notes and shorthand terms for certain things, lacking any of the presentation that makes a videogame what it is, these people would probably have groaned about how Vader being Luke's father was moronic if they read an early draft of The Empire Strikes Back.

Based upon what I've seen, the story will be very good and will make for a stunning, striking game that will undoubtedly be remembered as the best of the series and one of the greatest in BioWare's history. The only BioWare story I'd consider better would be Knights of the Old Republic's; whether the game as a whole is better than BioWare's hallmark, BG2, will be debatable, but the story itself is certainly one of the most solid they've ever put out. If you were expecting a Donnie Darko style head-trip from it, then you were always going to be disappointed; the "twists" and "surprises" in the previous two games were hardly anything that would make your head spin, and you were deluding yourself if you believed ME3 would be any different. What it will be, however, is an emotionally-charged story that serves as both an epic conclusion to Shepard's own struggle and offers fitting, powerful resolutions to the squadmates who have been developed over the course of the first two games. ME3 won't wrap your head up in knots, but I don't think anyone truly ever thought it would -- what it will do is tug deeply on your heartstrings and leave you very satisfied with the journey Shepard and his friends have been on since ME1.

Yes, there are certain parts in the script that are somewhat cringe-worthy; there are always going to be sections of any story that you find lacking or think could be done better. There are also some interesting parallels to other notable science-fiction works, particularly Babylon 5, which does make me curious as to how many of the writing/production stuff are fans of B5. In the end, though, like B5's own ending, I think ME3 will be a unique, powerful, touching experience that, while it might end exactly as it was foreshadowed and exactly as you expected, will nonetheless leave you at a loss for words when the final credits roll.

On a final note, for those who are claiming that your choices from the first two games will have no impact on the story whatsoever, this is patently untrue. The basic core of the experience will remain the same regardless of your choices from the first two games, but again, this was always going to be the case; if you believed that the choices you had access to in ME1 and ME2 were going to drastically alter the story structure, then you were deceiving yourself. What will be altered is the experience itself, and I remain confident from what I've read in the script that experiencing the story through the lens of different choices will alter the way you view the story significantly. Basically, the structure and flow of the story will be the same no matter what you've done -- as it was in ME2 -- but the way the story unfolds will be vastly different depending upon the choices you made, and the outcomes and endings you have available will likewise be altered based upon your decisions from the previous two games.

Oh, and Jacob!

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CptData wrote...

Need to repost what I said earlier in another (closed) thread:

The more often I read what I've got of the story, the more I think it's not that bad. Actually, it's a lot of drama, some hard decisions and emotional stuff. Isn't it what we wanted? Stuff to cry about, decisions over life and death and emotions, emotions, emotions?

That leaked story is not even 25% of the game. It's just the main plot. There are 75% of the game to explore - assignments, dialogues, banter, love story arc ... there's so much more to explore. Yes, I got spoiled, but I wanted to read it. No it doesn't change my view on ME3. I still want it. I want to give Shepard that last fight and I want to see "my" perfect ending with my LI and everything.

So ... that's it.



You realize not even all of the main missions are in there, right? Most of that script is just random scenes from major missions.

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CptData wrote...

Need to repost what I said earlier in another (closed) thread:

The more often I read what I've got of the story, the more I think it's not that bad. Actually, it's a lot of drama, some hard decisions and emotional stuff. Isn't it what we wanted? Stuff to cry about, decisions over life and death and emotions, emotions, emotions?

That leaked story is not even 25% of the game. It's just the main plot. There are 75% of the game to explore - assignments, dialogues, banter, love story arc ... there's so much more to explore. Yes, I got spoiled, but I wanted to read it. No it doesn't change my view on ME3. I still want it. I want to give Shepard that last fight and I want to see "my" perfect ending with my LI and everything.

So ... that's it.


Exactly. 

And might I add, even though I haven't read everything in the spoilers, one thing seems to be certain.  This is Shepard's story.  Unlike ME2 where s/he was a guest star.

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JamieCOTC wrote...

CptData wrote...

Need to repost what I said earlier in another (closed) thread:

The more often I read what I've got of the story, the more I think it's not that bad. Actually, it's a lot of drama, some hard decisions and emotional stuff. Isn't it what we wanted? Stuff to cry about, decisions over life and death and emotions, emotions, emotions?

That leaked story is not even 25% of the game. It's just the main plot. There are 75% of the game to explore - assignments, dialogues, banter, love story arc ... there's so much more to explore. Yes, I got spoiled, but I wanted to read it. No it doesn't change my view on ME3. I still want it. I want to give Shepard that last fight and I want to see "my" perfect ending with my LI and everything.

So ... that's it.


Exactly. 

And might I add, even though I haven't read everything in the spoilers, one thing seems to be certain.  This is Shepard's story.  Unlike ME2 where s/he was a guest star.


I think the bolded and underlined is why I found myself loving the script. I finally felt like the PC and not someone who was just there. 

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CptData wrote...

Need to repost what I said earlier in another (closed) thread:

The more often I read what I've got of the story, the more I think it's not that bad. Actually, it's a lot of drama, some hard decisions and emotional stuff. Isn't it what we wanted? Stuff to cry about, decisions over life and death and emotions, emotions, emotions?

That leaked story is not even 25% of the game. It's just the main plot. There are 75% of the game to explore - assignments, dialogues, banter, love story arc ... there's so much more to explore. Yes, I got spoiled, but I wanted to read it. No it doesn't change my view on ME3. I still want it. I want to give Shepard that last fight and I want to see "my" perfect ending with my LI and everything.

So ... that's it.



Except if you read it you'd realize there won't be a perfect ending with an LI. 


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BTW, I just "scanned" through it, nothing seems really bad to me.

As for consequences of your actions, hah, this is BioWare we're talking about, not CD Projekt. I've been telling crazed Biodrones for ages now that in EVERY BioWare your choices have little to no consequences.

Modifié par DarthCaine, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:10 .


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 IHonestly, I've read the spoilers in their entirety, and I find the people decrying the plot as ridiculous and hackneyed to be acting in a patently absurd manner. Bearing in mind that this is just a script with a rough outline full of writer's notes and shorthand terms for certain things, lacking any of the presentation that makes a videogame what it is, these people would probably have groaned about how Vader being Luke's father was moronic if they read an early draft of The Empire Strikes Back.
Based upon what I've seen, the story will be very good and will make for a stunning, striking game that will undoubtedly be remembered as the best of the series and one of the greatest in BioWare's history. The only BioWare story I'd consider better would be Knights of the Old Republic's; whether the game as a whole is better than BioWare's hallmark, BG2, will be debatable, but the story itself is certainly one of the most solid they've ever put out. If you were expecting a Donnie Darko style head-trip from it, then you were always going to be disappointed; the "twists" and "surprises" in the previous two games were hardly anything that would make your head spin, and you were deluding yourself if you believed ME3 would be any different. What it will be, however, is an emotionally-charged story that serves as both an epic conclusion to Shepard's own struggle and offers fitting, powerful resolutions to the squadmates who have been developed over the course of the first two games. ME3 won't wrap your head up in knots, but I don't think anyone truly ever thought it would -- what it will do is tug deeply on your heartstrings and leave you very satisfied with the journey Shepard and his friends have been on since ME1.

Yes, there are certain parts in the script that are somewhat cringe-worthy; there are always going to be sections of any story that you find lacking or think could be done better. There are also some interesting parallels to other notable science-fiction works, particularly Babylon 5, which does make me curious as to how many of the writing/production stuff are fans of B5. In the end, though, like B5's own ending, I think ME3 will be a unique, powerful, touching experience that, while it might end exactly as it was foreshadowed and exactly as you expected, will nonetheless leave you at a loss for words when the final credits roll.

On a final note, for those who are claiming that your choices from the first two games will have no impact on the story whatsoever, this is patently untrue. The basic core of the experience will remain the same regardless of your choices from the first two games, but again, this was always going to be the case; if you believed that the choices you had access to in ME1 and ME2 were going to drastically alter the story structure, then you were deceiving yourself. What will be altered is the experience itself, and I remain confident from what I've read in the script that experiencing the story through the lens of different choices will alter the way you view the story significantly. Basically, the structure and flow of the story will be the same no matter what you've done -- as it was in ME2 -- but the way the story unfolds will be vastly different depending upon the choices you made, and the outcomes and endings you have available will likewise be altered based upon your decisions from the previous two games.

Oh, and Jacob! 

I like this human, he understands!!!!!! Sorry I couldn't resist.

Modifié par trucoolbrees, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:13 .


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DarthCaine wrote...

BTW, I just "scanned" through it, nothing seems really bad to me.

As for consequences of your actions, hah, this is BioWare we're talking about, not CD Projekt. I've been telling crazed Biodrones for ages now that in EVERY BioWare your choices have little to no consequences.


Tell me 1 consequence in TW2 about your actions in TW1?

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MajorMattem wrote...

This is pretty much my view of bioware right now.

I've seen the spoilers, and it's not that. This forum is so jaded DEM has taken a whole new meaning.

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trucoolbrees wrote...

I like this human, he understands!!!!!! Sorry I couldn't resist.


Force is strong with this one.:alien:

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DarthCaine wrote...

BTW, I just "scanned" through it, nothing seems really bad to me.

As for consequences of your actions, hah, this is BioWare we're talking about, not CD Projekt. I've been telling crazed Biodrones for ages now that in EVERY BioWare your choices have little to no consequences.


Oh I knew they would fail to deliver consequences. But I find it sad its so hyped up and alpha protocal has more C+C than bioware has done over 3 games.

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Jesse Houston wrote...
we urge fans not to read them if they want to experience the purest form of the story in Mass Effect 3.


Hmm..... maybe I should stay off the forums for awhile if major spoilers are floating around out there now....

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It almost seems they picked two people closely related to one another, and then they make you decide which one lives. And of course the one you don't pick dies.

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tobito113 wrote...

DarthCaine wrote...

BTW, I just "scanned" through it, nothing seems really bad to me.

As for consequences of your actions, hah, this is BioWare we're talking about, not CD Projekt. I've been telling crazed Biodrones for ages now that in EVERY BioWare your choices have little to no consequences.


Tell me 1 consequence in TW2 about your actions in TW1?

I'm not talking about transfers. A single choice in either Witcher changed entire acts. In ANY BioWare game all they change are minor lines and your major choice is made in the last 5 minutes, so all it changes is a minor cutscene

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CptBomBom00 wrote...

CptData wrote...

Need to repost what I said earlier in another (closed) thread:

The more often I read what I've got of the story, the more I think it's not that bad. Actually, it's a lot of drama, some hard decisions and emotional stuff. Isn't it what we wanted? Stuff to cry about, decisions over life and death and emotions, emotions, emotions?

That leaked story is not even 25% of the game. It's just the main plot. There are 75% of the game to explore - assignments, dialogues, banter, love story arc ... there's so much more to explore. Yes, I got spoiled, but I wanted to read it. No it doesn't change my view on ME3. I still want it. I want to give Shepard that last fight and I want to see "my" perfect ending with my LI and everything.

So ... that's it.


This is perfect post.^^^^^^^



Well some of us might want to just save the world and have more friends around to smack hands with, than to bury, because then it becomes a pyrrhic victory, and those suck. Just ask the Romans.

I mean think of all those who die, sure its no big deal, but now, hell naw, lets change it around so Tali, Miri, and Ash Die. Not so funny or "good" part of the story now is it?


As to the endings, which I still hope alot has changed,

Become a reaper

Let reapers take Earth, they leave, will be back later.

Blow them up, which then varries from everyone and everything dying, to just the Reapers.


Which really...no, just no.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:16 .


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OH MY GOD IS THAT IT. I can not believe it.:blink: There must be more than 2 endings though. 


There are about 6 endings  so far *spoiler*:

- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to control the reapers. The reapers leave. Earth is destroyed.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to control the reapers. The reapers leave. Earth is okay.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to destroy the reaper. Earth is destroyed. Shepard dies.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to destroy the reapers. Earth is okay. Shepard dies.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to destroy the reapers. Earth is okay. Shepard survives.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to become one with the reapers.

Modifié par Luc0s, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:13 .


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Having scanned the script, you can tell it is just that - a rough script, which you will be unable to judge the game from. 

Modifié par DuskWarden, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:13 .


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I wonder how many Tolkien's fans decided not to go watch P.J.'s trilogy because they already were "spoiled" from reading the books. Who cares about what's been leaked? I've read the stuff and I still can't wait to get my hands on the game. I won't even remember what's been spoiled... well... maybe a few things but that is nothing to stop anyone from enjoying the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if it all were a big marketing strategy too. And we know how their PR/MKT dept. have these "amazing" ideas, like trashing Origins to promote DA2 and defend its changes... Someone might just have came up with the brilliant "let's keep the heat on about ME3".

And come on, it's not like we don't know what's supposed to happen in the 3rd chapter of a trilogy, assuming they keep coherent with what's been shown in previous two chapters. Coherency being the key word here.

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That leaked story is not even 25% of the game. It's just the main plot. There are 75% of the game to explore - assignments, dialogues, banter, love story arc ... there's so much more to explore.


I would argue the main plot makes the other 75% of the game relevant. And without a good main plot all that is for naught.

Like others have touched on I like the fact it feels like Shepard's story, but some of the "twists and turns" are just junior high comic book stuff. Even if this may end up only being a portion of the main plot, it still needs heavy revising, but that is JMO.

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Luc0s wrote...

mikkois wrote...

OH MY GOD IS THAT IT. I can not believe it.:blink: There must be more than 2 endings though. 


*spoilers*

Jesus Christ... It's not a DEM if it's built up over the course of the game.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 07 novembre 2011 - 10:15 .


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Luc0s wrote...

mikkois wrote...

OH MY GOD IS THAT IT. I can not believe it.:blink: There must be more than 2 endings though. 


There are about 6 endings  so far *spoiler*:

- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to control the reapers. The reapers leave. Earth is destroyed.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to control the reapers. The reapers leave. Earth is okay.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to destroy the reaper. Earth is destroyed. Shepard dies.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to destroy the reapers. Earth is okay. Shepard dies.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to destroy the reapers. Earth is okay. Shepard survives.
- Shepard uses the deus ex machina device to become one with the reapers.


...Is this for real? :blink:

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DarkDragon777 wrote...

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Yea not happy with Bioware, not even close. They damn near lied about choice impact if the script is even remotely close to the final version.



That's not even close to being the entire final script.


And how do you know?  Nobody except Bioware knows.

And yes to the posters above, there is a DEM component.  The worst one is Shepard becoming one with the Reapers.  Really Walters?  Like really?  I wasn't expecting greatness but that is beyond atrocious.

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