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[VStar]

The Citadel contains something that allows Shepard to defeat the Reapers, presumably in its inaccessible core. The hijacking of the Citadel and its movement to the Sol system -- either by the Reapers or Cerberus -- isn't all that implausible. If it's done by the first, they are moving the only object that can make them vulnerable into the heart of their territory, and if it's done by the second, TIM is doing it to protect his new masters, possibly while also trying to find a way to activate it and take control of the Reapers. They could easily have moved it back afterward.

[DarkDragon777]

VStar wrote...

The Citadel contains something that allows Shepard to defeat the Reapers, presumably in its inaccessible core. The hijacking of the Citadel and its movement to the Sol system -- either by the Reapers or Cerberus -- isn't all that implausible. If it's done by the first, they are moving the only object that can make them vulnerable into the heart of their territory, and if it's done by the second, TIM is doing it to protect his new masters, possibly while also trying to find a way to activate it and take control of the Reapers. They could easily have moved it back afterward.

His new masters? I don't think so.


Reread the script, because his intentions are to control the Reapers.

[Balek-Vriege]

VStar wrote...

The Citadel contains something that allows Shepard to defeat the Reapers, presumably in its inaccessible core. The hijacking of the Citadel and its movement to the Sol system -- either by the Reapers or Cerberus -- isn't all that implausible. If it's done by the first, they are moving the only object that can make them vulnerable into the heart of their territory, and if it's done by the second, TIM is doing it to protect his new masters, possibly while also trying to find a way to activate it and take control of the Reapers. They could easily have moved it back afterward.

Plausible explaination.

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DarkDragon777 wrote...


His new masters? I don't think so.


Reread the script, because his intentions are to control the Reapers.

First off I haven't read that part or any part of the script since last night.

If the Citadel hold ssomething like he says, then the Illusive Man would want control of it while other races couldn't get to it.  What better place than Reaper territory?  Especially if you have to use it against the Reapers to gain control?

Even without it having anything special you don't want the Citadel being used as a base of operations for Citadel races.  If there Reapers/Cerberus could move it to Earth, that would take away the Galactic seat of power.

Modifié par Balek-Vriege, 08 novembre 2011 - 03:08 .

[Someone With Mass]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
Okay, so this all goes back to people wanting to side with Cerberus...

WHY IS IT ALWAYS CERBERUS?

I've asked myself the same question a lot.

I'd gladly join up with the Prothean who slaughtered like twenty of those Cerberus clowns right when he got out of stasis instead of them any day.

[Blacklash93]

Can someone piece together what all those spoilers meant in regard to the main plot?

There's a prothean that needs to help you. The Reapers move the Citadel to orbit Earth. Shepard calls his force the hammer or something. He needs to bring something called the crucible to the citadel to stop the Reapers. The conduit is on Earth.

What the hell does this all mean?

[Femlob]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

VStar wrote...

The Citadel contains something that allows Shepard to defeat the Reapers, presumably in its inaccessible core. The hijacking of the Citadel and its movement to the Sol system -- either by the Reapers or Cerberus -- isn't all that implausible. If it's done by the first, they are moving the only object that can make them vulnerable into the heart of their territory, and if it's done by the second, TIM is doing it to protect his new masters, possibly while also trying to find a way to activate it and take control of the Reapers. They could easily have moved it back afterward.

His new masters? I don't think so.


Reread the script, because his intentions are to control the Reapers.

You don't really need to read a script to understand that TIM's looking for the magic stick.

[DarkSeraphym]

VStar wrote...

The Citadel contains something that allows Shepard to defeat the Reapers, presumably in its inaccessible core. The hijacking of the Citadel and its movement to the Sol system -- either by the Reapers or Cerberus -- isn't all that implausible. If it's done by the first, they are moving the only object that can make them vulnerable into the heart of their territory, and if it's done by the second, TIM is doing it to protect his new masters, possibly while also trying to find a way to activate it and take control of the Reapers. They could easily have moved it back afterward.

I agree with DarkDragon, I don't remember seeing anything that suggested TIM was indoctrinated. If he were, it would seem very strange for him to be preparing a means to take control of them.

[Femlob]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'd gladly join up with the Prothean who slaughtered like twenty of those Cerberus clowns right when he got out of stasis instead of them any day.

You actually support the Prothean squadmate? I hope you are being sarcastic.

Why not? Tears of rage are delicious.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
You actually support the Prothean squadmate? I hope you are being sarcastic.

I'd take him over a bunch of fascists.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Cerberus is the light. Cerberus is the beacon of hope in these troubled times. Cerberus IS Mass Effect!

Actually, that is Garrus.  Garrus is Mass Effect.

The choice at the end of ME2 seemed to be us more or less chosing to side for or against Cerberus. Even Arrival supported this with Hackett only refering to your ship as a non-Cerberus one if you had destroyed the base.

You saw TIM's little smirk, right?  The evil little smirk?  And did you, like, miss out on all the hints the game dropped before that?

Retribution made it abdundantly clear that Cerberus was going to be weaker, not stronger!

Reliable tie-in novels?

Ha, that's funny.

[Kanon777]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Quole wrote...

To be fair, it was pretty obvious Cerberus was going to do something like this from the beginning.

No really it wasn't. At least not on this scale. Cerberus was being set-up to have a smaller role in the game right up until the first videos and images of ME3 were released. It makes sense; a smaller role is a more flexible one. Cerberus having a small part would allow the players more freedom to choose to side with or against them.

How can Cerberus possibly have a small importance in this game? its the one of the few organizations who openly accepts the existence of the reapers and is trying for years to control the problem... If you expected the organization to have less impact thats bad for you, I didnt want the VS to have so much impact in the plot but in no way makes it "garbage" or "fanfiction" it just focuses on part of the story im not so interested. 
And how can you say with such certanty that their importance crippled our freedom in the plot...

Sounds more like you're an angry Cerberus suporter who dosent want the terroist group that kills children for science to act like the monsters they are. But thats not ME3 fault, their methods and morals were exposed in ME1 and ME2, deal with it

[DoNotIngest]

Shepard kills Dumbledore.

[KBomb]

tobito113 wrote...

Thank you, now can you do what i asked? 

Wow, someone is full of themselves. Why should anyone have to validate their opinions to you? Do you work for Bioware? Speak for them? Why on earth do you think your endorsement of what others feel and believe is so critical? It’s been said. Throughout the forums it’s been said and by some posters, it has been said in a mature, concise way. When it is said, some people come out with, “You are being a troll! You never played the game before! Your concerns are stupid!” You know, kind of like you did. So why would anyone want to waste time expressing their concerns to you. lol Because you’re so…special? Because you asked nicely? Said pretty please? Really, don’t kid yourself so.

Modifié par KBomb, 08 novembre 2011 - 03:11 .

[Kanon777]

Dionkey wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

Dinosaur Act wrote...

Good. We don't need any more Full Metal Alchemist fans.

HURR HURR, HILARIOUS. As much as I dislike mainstream anime, if there's one thing FMA got right is that it had a well-written plot. I am disgusted how you guys just take everything Bioware shovels in your face. DA2, casualization of Mass Effect, TOR being a carbon-copy of WOW, Day-1 DLC, costume packs, online passes, etc. You don't even debate it, you just go "MAN STOP HATING BIOWARE IS TRYING THEIR HARDEST THEY CARE." No, they don't. They've lied and BS'd their way to Mass Effect 3. Everything we warned them about and have been reassured upon was a complete lie, they don't care about anything except for money.

Yeah, I know. But just like you don't want to believe them, I don't want to believe you. I want to see it for myself.

How long have you been here for? They've kept this act up for 3 years now, it's time to accept the fact. I will return here after the release of ME3, and if I hear anyone trying to justify things they are displeased with by saying that Bioware is "trying", I will flip.

Werent you going away because the plot sucked? Actually you said 2 times in this thread you were out of here forever...
Nice to have you back then 

[DarkDragon777]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Shepard kills Dumbledore.

Draco kills Tali

[Thompson family]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Okay, so this all goes back to people wanting to side with Cerberus...

WHY IS IT ALWAYS CERBERUS?

Why do some people stay with a spouse who's just no d*** good?

Sometimes, people just make bad choices.

[AdmiralCheez]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Shepard kills Dumbledore.

Draco kills Tali

Someone, write this fanfic.

[darthnick427]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Actually, that is Garrus.  Garrus is Mass Effect.

I agree. lol

[Balek-Vriege]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Shepard kills Dumbledore.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?!  WHY WOULD YOU POST THAT?!?!


Spoiler warning hello!?!?!

[VStar]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

VStar wrote...

The Citadel contains something that allows Shepard to defeat the Reapers, presumably in its inaccessible core. The hijacking of the Citadel and its movement to the Sol system -- either by the Reapers or Cerberus -- isn't all that implausible. If it's done by the first, they are moving the only object that can make them vulnerable into the heart of their territory, and if it's done by the second, TIM is doing it to protect his new masters, possibly while also trying to find a way to activate it and take control of the Reapers. They could easily have moved it back afterward.

His new masters? I don't think so.


Reread the script, because his intentions are to control the Reapers.

I did read it. Read the Mars portions again -- there's a line where TIM says that he's allied himself with the Reapers while he's secretly searching for the means to take control of them. He's by no means indoctrinated; he's apparently willingly-allied himself with the Reapers so that he can easily stab them in the back once his agents find what he needs.

Modifié par VStar, 08 novembre 2011 - 03:14 .