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[Bluko]

Welsh Inferno wrote...

Thank you for the summary Cheez & Bluko just above me. A little reassuring. But do you really believe they have enough time to change whats in there or are you hoping they do?

To give you an idea.

It's like knowing Archangel is Garrus. That's about how much detail was given on the missions. And that's about the level of spoilers we're dealing with. Also you could probably figure out 90% of this stuff would happen from just the Game Informer article and E3 Demos. How most of this stuff plays out I can't even imagine, causing there's nothing of substance. There really isn't anything I'd call a major spoiler.

Trust me there are no Darth Vader is Luke's Father type spoilers. That I saw anyways.

I'm pretty sure some of this stuff will change if it hasn't already. Very little is main plot essential. Also given the source it's hard to say whether these spoilers are worded correctly to begin with. They could very easily be incorrectly translated or something. Even if what I've seen is correct and is in ME3 it wouldn't be horrible. There's only one thing I thought was a bit silly, but it's something that could easily change. Also it will depend on your import file whether it's even there or not.

The only comfort I would take from this is your decisions in ME2 are going to effect your ME3 experience. Although I honestly can't tell you how much an impact they will have. Could be a lot, or could be very little.


To be frank I wouldn't even worry about this stuff. Not that big a deal.

Modifié par Bluko, 07 novembre 2011 - 07:19 .

[staindgrey]

Terror_K wrote...

So even I'll be happy with it?

I just hope The Reapers aren't overexplained and merely turn out to be weaksauce The Shadows clones from B5 like I've been fearing.

I always hate when ambiguous bad guys are over-explained. I kind of like the lack of knowledge.

Biggest example is the creature in Cloverfield. Most of my friends disliked the movie simply because it never word-for-word explained what the hell happened. But I liked that most. Simply killing the Reapers and being given hints as to what/who/how they are, rather than having Harby give his dramatic monologue explaining everything, would be my prefered choice.

[King Minos]

From the opinions on spoiled members, I'm expecting Shepard to pull a rabbit out of his ass to destroy the Reapers. But then again it's a rough copy.

[AdmiralCheez]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Your decisions really, really matter.

No need to lie, hun.

Okay, I was wrong.

Who's ALIVE AND DEAD matters the most.

Your decisions give major flavor, but don't alter the main narrative.

[Vegos]

staindgrey wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

So even I'll be happy with it?

I just hope The Reapers aren't overexplained and merely turn out to be weaksauce The Shadows clones from B5 like I've been fearing.

I always hate when ambiguous bad guys are over-explained. I kind of like the lack of knowledge.

Biggest example is the creature in Cloverfield. Most of my friends disliked the movie simply because it never word-for-word explained what the hell happened. But I liked that most. Simply killing the Reapers and being given hints as to what/who/how they are, rather than having Harby give his dramatic monologue explaining everything, would be my prefered choice.

I suppose you'd prefer Sovereign then, huh? Me, I can roll with both really, I don't mind knowing and I don't mind it when things are left to my imagination.

However, from a storyline perspective, it would make sense if the races of the galaxy tried to learn more about the Reapers, of course.

[staindgrey]

Oh ****.

One of my friends felt like being a douche and told me some spoilers over Facebook.


*sigh*


That said, either I didn't get all of them or the spoilers really aren't all THAT spoilerific... Not to the same degree as, say, an ending or an origin of the Reapers or anything. Just some stuff that would surprise me if I hadn't heard it already.

Still... I feel a sudden need to not get on the internet anymore. Nowhere is safe.

[AdmiralCheez]

Terror_K wrote...

So even I'll be happy with it?

I just hope The Reapers aren't overexplained and merely turn out to be weaksauce The Shadows clones from B5 like I've been fearing.

The Reapers' motivation was highly ambiguous and philosophical (if it was indeed the Reapers I was looking at), and they didn't seem to be explained at all.

So... not much at all. All that Sur'kesh stuff we've seen will still happen with Wreav instead of Wrex even though it doesn't make any sense, and some Random Salarian #7 will be in Mordin's shoes if he died in the Suicide Mission, etc.?

Frankly, to me, that makes it a completely different mission.  I can't imagine that segment without Mordin, Wrex, and Kirrahe.

Also, certain possibly dead squadmates were doing some very plot-important things, so you might be a little screwed if you didn't save them.

[Seboist]

Rojahar wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

So... not much at all. All that Sur'kesh stuff we've seen will still happen with Wreav instead of Wrex even though it doesn't make any sense, and some Random Salarian #7 will be in Mordin's shoes if he died in the Suicide Mission, etc.?

Yep. Overall, everything in the game happens the same, regardless of previous choices. It's like Wrex/Wreave, with everything.

Saphra Deden wrote...

So by playing Renegade I'm just getting fewer cameos? Figures.

Yep. Everything, as far as prior decisions, seems to work exactly like ME2.

Renegade being the Paragon path with joke dialogue and less content? Say it ain't so! I TOTALLY wasn't expecting that!

[staindgrey]

Vegos wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

So even I'll be happy with it?

I just hope The Reapers aren't overexplained and merely turn out to be weaksauce The Shadows clones from B5 like I've been fearing.

I always hate when ambiguous bad guys are over-explained. I kind of like the lack of knowledge.

Biggest example is the creature in Cloverfield. Most of my friends disliked the movie simply because it never word-for-word explained what the hell happened. But I liked that most. Simply killing the Reapers and being given hints as to what/who/how they are, rather than having Harby give his dramatic monologue explaining everything, would be my prefered choice.

I suppose you'd prefer Sovereign then, huh? Me, I can roll with both really, I don't mind knowing and I don't mind it when things are left to my imagination.

However, from a storyline perspective, it would make sense if the races of the galaxy tried to learn more about the Reapers, of course.

Tried? Of course. But finding everything out is a different matter; that's up to the writers. Just stating my personal preference.

And yeah, I loved Sovereign. With each time I play ME2, my distaste for Harby grows. He's just... too human. Wayyyyy too human. There's no "holy **** this thing is beyond my comprehension" moment with him. It's all bad guy tropes and loud noises.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I thought plot-lines were supposed to really diverge now that there was no need to keep things in order for another game?

I always knew that was crap.

I hate being right all the time.

I honestly think it's going to be what ME2 had, but on a larger scale.

Not impressive, but satisfactory.

[sympathyforsaren]

Did the spoilers say who the Reapers were?

[AdmiralCheez]

sympathyforsaren wrote...

Did the spoilers say who the Reapers were?

Not to my knowledge.

It was mostly "go here, do this stuff, and then this thing happens."

There was very little actual dialogue/

[Dave of Canada]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yep, when you kill folks they stay dead.

Technically, that's the opposite of what's occuring from what I've read.

[Seboist]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

So by playing Renegade I'm just getting fewer cameos? Figures.

Yep, when you kill folks they stay dead.

...life's a b*tch, ain't it.



sorry, that sounded less d*ckish my head.

I'm sure that in real life killing someone has no impact on their family,friends,comrades or associates either.......... oh wait.

[DarkSeraphym]

Bluko wrote...

I'm pretty sure some of this stuff will change if it hasn't already. Very little is main plot essential. Also given the source it's hard to say whether these spoilers are worded correctly to begin with. They could very easily be incorrectly translated or something. Even if what I've seen is correct and is in ME3 it wouldn't be horrible. There's only one thing I thought was a bit silly, but it's something that could easily change. Also it will depend on your import file whether it's even there or not.

I am confident there were only two things in that spoiler that are not subject to change. The first is anything to relates to the main plot (which I won't spoil for those who have yet to read it) because everything in that spoiler was written around that central idea that I doubt BioWare would have the time or the desire to go back and change so much of it. The second is the ending, which I thought made absolute sense given the context we have been given from several of the developers over the month.

[Bluko]

Terror_K wrote...

So even I'll be happy with it?

I just hope The Reapers aren't overexplained and merely turn out to be weaksauce The Shadows clones from B5 like I've been fearing.

There really wasn't anything new about the Reapers. Nothing that doesn't tell us what Harbinger hasn't already.

Terror_K wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

Your decisions from previous games seem
to matter about as much as they did in ME2. To some people that's a lot,
and to others it's not.

So... not much at all. All that Sur'kesh stuff we've seen will still happen with Wreav instead of Wrex even though it doesn't make any sense, and some Random Salarian #7 will be in Mordin's shoes if he died in the Suicide Mission, etc.?

I'd say it looks they will matter more. If anything I think it's safe to say they won't be given the email treatment. You'll at least see something different for each decision. I'd say some missions could end up playing out very differently. Seriously this stuff is probably only spoilers for some people's games.

[DiebytheSword]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

sympathyforsaren wrote...

Did the spoilers say who the Reapers were?

Not to my knowledge.

It was mostly "go here, do this stuff, and then this thing happens."

There was very little actual dialogue/

There's stuff in there about it, but its all out of context and hard to discern what's actually happening.  It sounded to me like things will be disclosed.  You didn't read your own save Cheez ;-)

Read it more carefully tomorrow.

Modifié par DiebytheSword, 07 novembre 2011 - 07:30 .

[Vegos]

staindgrey wrote...

Vegos wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

So even I'll be happy with it?

I just hope The Reapers aren't overexplained and merely turn out to be weaksauce The Shadows clones from B5 like I've been fearing.

I always hate when ambiguous bad guys are over-explained. I kind of like the lack of knowledge.

Biggest example is the creature in Cloverfield. Most of my friends disliked the movie simply because it never word-for-word explained what the hell happened. But I liked that most. Simply killing the Reapers and being given hints as to what/who/how they are, rather than having Harby give his dramatic monologue explaining everything, would be my prefered choice.

I suppose you'd prefer Sovereign then, huh? Me, I can roll with both really, I don't mind knowing and I don't mind it when things are left to my imagination.

However, from a storyline perspective, it would make sense if the races of the galaxy tried to learn more about the Reapers, of course.

Tried? Of course. But finding everything out is a different matter; that's up to the writers. Just stating my personal preference.

And yeah, I loved Sovereign. With each time I play ME2, my distaste for Harby grows. He's just... too human. Wayyyyy too human. There's no "holy **** this thing is beyond my comprehension" moment with him. It's all bad guy tropes and loud noises.

One thing I like about Harbinger is the fact that for a villain, he's actually quite smart. Cold, calculating. Hit "the annoyance" hard and fast with no chance to escape. Don't settle with leaving Shepard for dead, no, try to get the body, just to be sure (s)he's dead for real. Okay, that was foiled, but the mere fact he tried makes him quite a good villain in my books.

But yeah, Sovereign was more "out there", more enigmatic.

[AdmiralCheez]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Technically, that's the opposite of what's occuring from what I've read.

What you read assumes they are alive.

Can't wait to see the dead versions, myself.  Gonna have to YouTube it, though.

@Seboist: If you were to have it your way, Person X's friends would come seeking revenge, you'd kill them, then their friends would seek revenge, you'd kill them too, and on and on until everyone is dead but you.

[Yuoaman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Your decisions give major flavor, but don't alter the main narrative.

I thought plot-lines were supposed to really diverge now that there was no need to keep things in order for another game?

I always knew that was crap.

I hate being right all the time.

How much could it really diverge? "Oh look, you saved the galaxy on your own by sacrificing billions." / "Oh look, you saved the galaxy from the Reapers by uniting X, Y, and/or Z." / "Oh look, you screwed up. Great job, Shepard."