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[WhiteKnyght]

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

You are childish. Bioware wants to create a world with many stories, but you're so caught up on the warden that you've closed your mind to all other possibilites.

As much as some fans bag games like Final Fantasy for being linear and just rehashing the same storylines, you guys sure show your double standards when Bioware tries to do something new with their sequels and you bag on them..

[Faust1979]

Ukki wrote...

Faust1979 wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

Don't worry. Skyrim is due in two days and we can forget this mess has ever happened.

It's kind of like kicking over the sandcastle. They made a bad sequel and now we can only hope that new games arrive and everyone forgets about Dragon Age 2 and the Dragon Age franchise.

Or we can trust in a lead designer that doesn't even make RPG's to keep the franchise afloat.

what are you talking about? DA2 was very much an RPG maybe it wasn't to you but it was one, it had stats and skills to level up, it had a story that you guided your character through.

Not really, it had rpg elements but it was not a rpg. Railroading towards the same ending regardless players choises was a good indicator for it.

having only one ending doesn't make an RPG any less of an RPG.

[Sylvanpyxie]

It's good thing they stop with the Warden. The Dragon Age world is so much richer then the Wardens/Blight story!

See, i'm fine with Bioware shaking up the story and focusing on purely "Thedas" for the entire game series...

However, i'd feel a lot better about it if all ties are cut from the Warden to do so. It's fine leaving big plot lines open for future games, sure, but the minor stuff? Does that really need to be addressed in future games?

Did King Alistair REALLY need to turn up in Kirkwall for his business? Could he not have sent a Ambassador? I have clearly defined pictures of all my previous companions, and where they've ended up or what they're doing, especially ones i might have romanced on my Warden. Cameo appearances do nothing but utterly shatter those pictures.

That isn't to say i'm completely against cameo appearances, i even accept companions turning up in the main plot or as future companions X amount of games from now. But the number they had in DA2? I didn't appreciate that in the slightest.

Overall, i'm happy where Bioware are taking the series, but less cameos.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 09 novembre 2011 - 04:40 .

[Foolsfolly]

In other news Loghain's story is over.

[casamar]

After the 'Con season this summer, I thought this was common knowledge by now

[Brockololly]

casamar wrote...

After the 'Con season this summer, I thought this was common knowledge by now

I think for people not necessarily paying attention to everything on the forums or what the devs have been saying, its not an uncommon preconception to think that given what Leliana says at the end of DA2, that the Warden and/or Hawke could come back for DA3. Not unlike how people thought a KOTOR 3 would focus on Revan and the Exile, who both disappeared as well.

[Bryy_Miller]

Loain wrote...

Come now, do you honestly think there will be a single Blockbuster left once DA 3 is out?

Got to it before me. Darn.

[megski]

I think the thing that disappoints me the most is that people that the warden knew and loved keep popping up, so I can't help but wonder what is going on with her. Obviously if the companions are still handling business around Thedas, I can't help but think somewhere in some way her story is continuing and I'm a little upset that I can't be a part of that. I would feel differently if it was like 50 years from the blight and I knew my warden was gone forever it wouldn't be so sad. lol.

[TEWR]

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

1) Witch Hunt had already established itself as being the end of the Warden's playable story.

2) A new protagonist each game isn't a mistake. How Bioware handled Hawke in DAII was a mistake, but the concept and the application are not the same thing.

[Lord_Valandil]

Well, I guess I can rest easy knowing that I can skip DA3 if it starts to smell funny in the previews.
It was safe to assume that the choices in previous games didn't matter at all anyway.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well
this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3
or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their
mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to
Blockbuster

1) Witch Hunt had already established itself as being the end of the Warden's playable story.

2)
A new protagonist each game isn't a mistake. How Bioware handled Hawke
in DAII was a mistake, but the concept and the application are not the
same thing.

To be fair, Witch Hunt was a rip-off. A smelly turd. And I haven't forgiven Bioware for that.
Not that they're waiting for my forgiveness  It didn't give any closure.

And I agree on the second point. Totally.

Modifié par Lord_Valandil, 09 novembre 2011 - 04:38 .

[Rawgrim]

I do belive the developers has said all along that Dragon Age is about the world, not single characters. So a new protagonist for each game sounds very good.

[blaidfiste]

casamar wrote...

After the 'Con season this summer, I thought this was common knowledge by now

In that case, I suggest a stickied thread of some sorts.

1) The Warden's story is over.
2) The new elves are here to stay.
3) No more silent protagonists.
etc. etc.

[Foolsfolly]

Brockololly wrote...

casamar wrote...

After the 'Con season this summer, I thought this was common knowledge by now

I think for people not necessarily paying attention to everything on the forums or what the devs have been saying, its not an uncommon preconception to think that given what Leliana says at the end of DA2, that the Warden and/or Hawke could come back for DA3. Not unlike how people thought a KOTOR 3 would focus on Revan and the Exile, who both disappeared as well.

Ok, Leliana's line is a really big tease for no reason.

Well, I guess the reason is to remind the players that their protagonists tend to disappear (apparently even in death). And... it's just a weird line. We'll see if it has any affect on the future or not.

[Lord_Valandil]

blaidfiste wrote...
2) The new elves are here to stay.
.

You gotta be kidding me.
All right, it seems that I haven't been following the news...but that's just awful.
Damn. My interest in DA3 was already low, but now it's about to sink into a really deep abyss.

[Rawgrim]

So the elves are going to look the same in DA3 as in DA2?

[Foolsfolly]

Roughly the same. I imagine they'll be prettier next time around as the graphics will no doubt improve. But the design style for them will remain. The bridge of their noses connecting with their foreheads, the slender frames, and the large eyes.

Personally, I think it's a decent look. Makes them distinctive.

[blaidfiste]

Rawgrim wrote...

So the elves are going to look the same in DA3 as in DA2?

A couple tweaks but no going back to DAO elves.

[Lord_Valandil]

blaidfiste wrote...

Rawgrim wrote...

So the elves are going to look the same in DA3 as in DA2?

A couple tweaks but no going back to DAO elves.

And is there anything regarding the new clownish-Skeletorish-Darkspawn?
Are they going to remain the same as well?

[WhiteKnyght]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

1) Witch Hunt had already established itself as being the end of the Warden's playable story.

2) A new protagonist each game isn't a mistake. How Bioware handled Hawke in DAII was a mistake, but the concept and the application are not the same thing.

I like how Hawke was handled. Bioware created a character thats more like a real person than some imaginary hero.

He lives his life and tries to get buy and keeps getting sucked into other people's crap. That happens IRL more than you'd think.

Hawke is exactly what they wanted him to be and they executed him perfectly. 

You guys are just sore over the fact that he's not heading some army against an ancient evil that threatens to destroy the world. Which has been done OVER 9000 times!!!

Also I've said this to people before and I'll say it again. If you don't like DAII you don't have to keep playing it and hanging around the boards for it. Yet you do. If it's so bad, play something else!

[AtreiyaN7]

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

Not really anything that new (except for the bit about us seeing the war). They have, time and again, stated that the Dragon Age was always about more than one hero's story. The fact that you can't accept that the Warden's part is over is your problem, not some mistake on their part. Sure, it would be nice to see him/her again at some point, but I can accept that it's done with.

There was never meant to be a single protagonist forever and ever. And since a Warden isn't likely to live into his/her 40s (unless they're an exceptional specimen or lucky), I never expected to have mine live out the whole entire Dragon Age (or what's left of it). Even if our Warden lives a really long time, he/she would be likelier to swing a cane around than a two-handed sword by the end of the Age in my opinion.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 09 novembre 2011 - 05:09 .

[Lord_Valandil]

The Grey Nayr wrote...
Hawke is exactly what they wanted him to be and they executed him perfectly. 

You guys are just sore over the fact that he's not heading some army against an ancient evil that threatens to destroy the world. Which has been done OVER 9000 times!!!

Also I've said this to people before and I'll say it again. If you don't like DAII you don't have to keep playing it and hanging around the boards for it. Yet you do. If it's so bad, play something else!

Perfectly? Hah!
And...nay. I'm not sore or butthurt because I couldn't raise a big army to kick some dragon's butt, I'm "sore" because the story sucked and...well, I'll stop there. And yeah, because the "rags to riches" story has never been told before. NEVER BEFORE. Am I right?
And, well, I don't like it. I played it, I finished it, it's collecting dust somewhere. I know I don't have to keep playing it, and I don't intend to. Does that mean that I cannot come to the forums?
And...I'm playing something else. Thanks.

Not to be rude, but I'm already tired of reading "Well if you don't like the game what are you doing here? Go away, and don't forget that the story of Origins has been done to death blahblahblah".

[Rawgrim]

So we are stuck with Harry Potter elves...ugh.

[Lynata]

Foolsfolly wrote...
Personally, I think it's a decent look. Makes them distinctive.

On the other hand, it's not what people expect from elves. Imo, if the studio was unhappy with the cliché they may as well have invented an entirely new race back then. This way it just reeks of retcon and misses people's expectations, and it's really not as if making elves look like cat people is in any way inventive. If anything it smells like trying to jump on the Avatar bandwagon.

If distinctiveness was really the reason for the change, I wonder what they would do to the dwarves next, given that the same conditions apply.


As far as all the "whining" is concerned ... in all fairness, people complain because they care. They obviously miss something and wish for the next installment of the series to return to the reasons they began loving the franchise in the first place. This kind of dedication, when brought forward in a constructive manner, deserves a certain level of acknowledgement. At the very least it is not in any way less valuable than the opinions of those who applaud these changes just because they cater to their personal preferences.

Modifié par Lynata, 09 novembre 2011 - 06:53 .

[alex90c]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

1) Witch Hunt had already established itself as being the end of the Warden's playable story.

2) A new protagonist each game isn't a mistake. How Bioware handled Hawke in DAII was a mistake, but the concept and the application are not the same thing.

I like how Hawke was handled. Bioware created a character thats more like a real person than some imaginary hero.

He lives his life and tries to get buy and keeps getting sucked into other people's crap. That happens IRL more than you'd think.

Hawke is exactly what they wanted him to be and they executed him perfectly. 

You guys are just sore over the fact that he's not heading some army against an ancient evil that threatens to destroy the world. Which has been done OVER 9000 times!!!

Also I've said this to people before and I'll say it again. If you don't like DAII you don't have to keep playing it and hanging around the boards for it. Yet you do. If it's so bad, play something else!

Yes, because real people are "diplomatic", "sarcastic" or "aggressive", and whenever they blend any of these two together in a conversation they sound bipolar.

RIIIIIIIIIGHT.

[megski]

alex90c wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

1) Witch Hunt had already established itself as being the end of the Warden's playable story.

2) A new protagonist each game isn't a mistake. How Bioware handled Hawke in DAII was a mistake, but the concept and the application are not the same thing.

I like how Hawke was handled. Bioware created a character thats more like a real person than some imaginary hero.

He lives his life and tries to get buy and keeps getting sucked into other people's crap. That happens IRL more than you'd think.

Hawke is exactly what they wanted him to be and they executed him perfectly. 

You guys are just sore over the fact that he's not heading some army against an ancient evil that threatens to destroy the world. Which has been done OVER 9000 times!!!

Also I've said this to people before and I'll say it again. If you don't like DAII you don't have to keep playing it and hanging around the boards for it. Yet you do. If it's so bad, play something else!

Yes, because real people are "diplomatic", "sarcastic" or "aggressive", and whenever they blend any of these two together in a conversation they sound bipolar.

RIIIIIIIIIGHT.

I would use the bipolar hawke