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[AlexXIV]

Atakuma wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Of course the warden's story is over, as it should be.  It was wrapped up nicely in Origins.

Yeah that's why there wasn't an import option to Awakenings ...

Only thing wrapped up in DA:O was the Blight, and only for now.

The blight is over and stopping the blight was the warden's purpose, therefor the wardens story is over. The import to Awakening was just fanservice.

Fanservice as in the devs making games for people to like? I don't really understand this fanservice talk either here or over at the ME board. According to some people Morrigan and Leliana are fanservice, also Tali and Liara. Hell probably half of the features are fanservice, does that disqualify them in any way?

[Teddie Sage]

Yes it is. You just keep wanting more and more. All it does is ruining the original story. Let your hero die in peace, happily, ever after and move on. This is only a game. I just don't understand why people have so much attachment over something that isn't real.

[WhiteKnyght]

Wonder what happens to the Warden if he goes into the Eluvian with Morrigan.

Arguably he should appear with her if that choice was made. Provided he didn't die or get separated from her while in that other dimension.

[HiroVoid]

My warden's in a hole in the ground.....so I'll only accept the Warden returning if he comes back as Skeletor.

[MacrossMan]

I haven't been on these boards in sooo long, but after playing Skyrim, I can't believe how limiting DA2 was!?? I really wish Bioware would reconsider bringing back the warden as the main character and use Hawke as a companion. The amount dialogue choices that DA1 had and the ability to use our customized character made DA1 sooo memorable. I'm definitely going to wait for DA3 to hit the bargain bins before I get duped into another DA2 experience.

[AlexXIV]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Yes it is. You just keep wanting more and more. All it does is ruining the original story. Let your hero die in peace, happily, ever after and move on. This is only a game. I just don't understand why people have so much attachment over something that isn't real.

Funny because you obviously have attachment to something that 'isn't real' as well. Be it the world, the story, all unreal, why care if it gets 'ruined'? Let's not pretend here that attachment is what divides us. Or whether someone wants more or less. We just want different things, and don't think what you want is any more valuable than what others want in this game.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 18 novembre 2011 - 01:54 .

[Realmzmaster]

Let's assume that the Warden gets to come back. At what level does he come in at so that it does not seriously imbalance the game. Also assume that Bioware allows any Hawke also to be imported. I will use my characters as an example. My Warden from Origins was at level 24. My Warden after Awakenings was at level 35 since i did all the DLCs. My Hawke is at level 26 not counting the dlc. If you want to create a new character for DA3 which level does it come in at?

Or does Bioware nerf the Warden and Hawke which has been done in other cRPGs. Your thoughts, please?

[Lynata]

MacrossMan wrote...
I haven't been on these boards in sooo long, but after playing Skyrim, I can't believe how limiting DA2 was!?? I really wish Bioware would reconsider bringing back the warden as the main character and use Hawke as a companion.

I'm gonna point out the obvious and emphasize that content quantity has absolutely nothing to do with the protagonist. DA2 would have been just as short if it would feature the Warden instead of the Champion.

As for DA3, I don't think I really care as to whether the studio would bring back the Warden or the Champion or go for another new character. However, I am convinced that it would be much, much easier to tell a compelling story with a new protagonist. This way, the developer would not be forced to try and bring the game in line with the gazillion decisions the players made in the previous titles (especially in DA:O), and you would not have that dreaded effect of throwing an already epic hero with veteran stats and a ton of magical equipment into a new saga that inadvertedly would have to try to be even more epic than the Blight (it would not be a challenge for the player otherwise). Which could only end up being a ridiculous high fantasy clusterf**k messing up the entire setting. Fighting elite Darkspawn +2 and dragons as trashmobs? Something even more dangerous than an arch-demon as a boss? No, thanks.

Modifié par Lynata, 18 novembre 2011 - 02:36 .

[Fidget6]

Teddie Sage wrote...

Yes it is. You just keep wanting more and more. All it does is ruin the original story..

THIS.

[HiroVoid]

Fidget6 wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Yes it is. You just keep wanting more and more. All it does is ruin the original story..

THIS.

Once again, THIS.  For the love of god, why couldn't they have let the Warden's story end with Origins?!

[MacrossMan]

I agree it would be a little messy importing characters at different levels for warden and hawke. Bioware must of realized that this would come up. Dragon Age started off as a personalized fantasy story like Mass Effect and ended up becoming a game that polarized the fan base. I'm not offering suggestions on how to fix this, but after reading the books before playing DA1 and making all of the decisions in DA1 that Bioware would have understood that the fans wanted to continue the story of THEIR warden or the world that they played in and not some generic Enchanted Arms hero set in a different part of the world. Heck Bioware could of called the game something other than Dragon Age and it have been better recieved by those that didn't like it because of what it did to each persons dragon age story.

My biggest hope is that Bioware returns to what made the original great by creating a fleshed out world full of choices.  Dragon Age 2 did not do that.  Hopefully like the warden, we have seen the end of Hawkes story. 

Modifié par MacrossMan, 18 novembre 2011 - 06:08 .

[AlexXIV]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Let's assume that the Warden gets to come back. At what level does he come in at so that it does not seriously imbalance the game. Also assume that Bioware allows any Hawke also to be imported. I will use my characters as an example. My Warden from Origins was at level 24. My Warden after Awakenings was at level 35 since i did all the DLCs. My Hawke is at level 26 not counting the dlc. If you want to create a new character for DA3 which level does it come in at?

Or does Bioware nerf the Warden and Hawke which has been done in other cRPGs. Your thoughts, please?

I don't really care. Levels are just for gameplay reason and have nothing to do with the story. The Warden was never any level because there are no levels. Have you ever heard any NPC ask about people and their level? I don't think so. So whether you start from 20, 30 or 1 doesn't matter, the enemies are scaled anyway so you can just beat up everyone and everything that comes at you, just as before.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 18 novembre 2011 - 06:30 .

[Rorschachinstein]

It's rather tough to have people start at whatever level they're at in a new game. It's also very complicated. My Warden was level 21 after Origins. 32 after Awakening. That means if DA2 would of had the Warden he'd be 32. Which is utter bull because he'd be completely overpowered against the first enemies, and if they didn't transfer the abilities from DAO over to DA2 and I was still playing the Warden I'd be even more angry. Then they'd have to pull a Shepard instead. and kill him off and you know.

[dsl08002]

It could be like this if the warden might return when in the beginning of the game you get wounded.

You strt once again at level one but your specilasation options would function like this:

"Your abilitys will return in time so have patience however i shouldepect that you have picked up some skills in your travel"
" show that dummie over there the templar power holysmith"

even if the warden will be at peak capacity remember this quote:

"You are Judged by the strength and skill of your enemies"

High level warden = very difficult enemies

[Andraste_Reborn]

In addition to all the many, many problems I'd have with playing the Warden again on a story level, I also can't see how it would work mechanically.

I have a Dalish Warden who's a level 27 Warrior archer. I didn't actually mind archery being removed from Warriors in DA2, but I'd be mightily annoyed if I played that character again and he suddenly couldn't use his bow. Elven archer was his whole character concept!

[Nimpe]

Pft. Blockbusters will be bankrupt in a few years.

[Maria Caliban]

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

This article makes me giddy with excitement. I look forward to everything Dragon Age 3 has to offer.

Nimpe wrote...

Pft. Blockbusters will be bankrupt in a few years.

I thought they already were? All the ones in my area have shut down.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 23 novembre 2011 - 10:12 .

[Realmzmaster]

Continuing with a high level Warden or high Level Hawke is problematic. What starting level would be needed in DA3 if you want to start a new character and have the game remain challenging for high level imports? Since I have a level 35 warden and level 26 Hawke will the game nerf my characters and remove certain equipment? Or by the end of DA3 I will have a 50 to 60 level Warden and a 50 level Hawke? What will my Warden or Hawke do next become an Immortal?

What kind of enemies and loot rewards will we get?

[Lynata]

Your first quest: Slay three arch-demons.

[Realmzmaster]

Lynata wrote...

Your first quest: Slay three arch-demons.

[res27772]

Sinuphro wrote...

read this article....
http://www.joystiq.c...-age-dlc-and-3/

well this article has definitely changed my mind. I will not purchase DA 3 or other DA DLC. You would think bioware had learned from their mistakes; yet... Oh well I will just rent it when it comes to Blockbuster

Well, if what's said in that article is true, then it's disappointing in several ways... not only that neither the Warden or Hawke stories will carry over to III, despite hints they might, but changing the combat style again doesn't really make much sense, why fix it if it ain't broke.  The only thing that sounds better id that the world is larger... hopefully that means more unique places to visit rather than the excessive reuse of locations that we see in II.

[Huntress]

Realmzmaster wrote...

Let's assume that the Warden gets to come back. At what level does he come in at so that it does not seriously imbalance the game. Also assume that Bioware allows any Hawke also to be imported. I will use my characters as an example. My Warden from Origins was at level 24. My Warden after Awakenings was at level 35 since i did all the DLCs. My Hawke is at level 26 not counting the dlc. If you want to create a new character for DA3 which level does it come in at?

Or does Bioware nerf the Warden and Hawke which has been done in other cRPGs. Your thoughts, please?

Bioware have said dragon age is not about a character that is about Thedas but, if am going to pick one of the old ones as main thats going to be hawke and it should be around level 27+, the warden is level 35+ and is in an ORDER that has to be neutral, The warden's  purpuse is to destory archdemons and darkspawns. Sorry but right now we are in templars and mages! I know it sux but, we have to learn to let go to the warden who very soon has to go to the deep road ( if alive/in the mirror/adventuring alone) After hawke 7-10 years have pass, the warden has very little time left and is probably  plagued by nightmares at this point.

Hawke  is NOT part of any Order and the only reason it should had disappear was if it sided with the mages and was going to take part in Anders war game.. is sad it just disappear i wanted so much for my Hawke to go to tevinter with fenris and do a "Spartacus" entry[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie] or exit lol! Free the slaves sorta thing! hehe.

[Teddie Sage]

HiroVoid wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Yes it is. You just keep wanting more and more. All it does is ruin the original story..

THIS.

Once again, THIS.  For the love of god, why couldn't they have let the Warden's story end with Origins?!

Thank you so much for understanding my point, guys.

[Alexander1136]

HiroVoid wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Yes it is. You just keep wanting more and more. All it does is ruin the original story..

THIS.

Once again, THIS.  For the love of god, why couldn't they have let the Warden's story end with Origins?!

Cuz some people like the character that took them 50 ot playthroughs to be comfortable w/ only to load up da2 and find that zevran isnt dead after you killed him instead of recruiting him, and would like if they could remember all the decisions you made and give it some sort of cameo.... /rant over:whistle: