Guest_TheDaniellasaur_*
LGTX wrote...
Fans from the Russian Bioware website. No real "hacking" is needed, I've accessed TLK files of ME2 myself when I wanted to mess around and mod some dialogue responses, it isn't difficult. The problem is that they were THERE. In a beta-demo-something.
Just have both side have an equal amount of consequences, or make the choices so that you end up with one grey option or the other, so that each choice gives you something the other doesn't.LGTX wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
TheDaniellasaur wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
Judging by those documents Bioware doesn't deserve any pity.
It was outdated but i loved it.
Their internal documents prove beyond a doubt their bias when it comes to developing Mass Effect, it's morality, it's charactes, and decisions. For that reason they are bad game designers. (at least as far as staying true to what they advertise anyway)
How can you not be biased when it comes to morality? Just interested. How would you have handled it? PM me if it's too off-topic or something.
Guest_TheDaniellasaur_*
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
LGTX wrote...
How can you not be biased when it comes to morality?
Guest_TheDaniellasaur_*
Paulinius wrote...
I was disappointed when reading the leaked plot file that our "major decisions" mostly came out the same regardless of what you chose.
But I expected that after DA2.
Paulinius wrote...
I was disappointed when reading the leaked plot file that our "major decisions" mostly came out the same regardless of what you chose.
But I expected that after DA2.
From the Internets. I don't really feel like a negative nancy, though. I will probably end up purchasing the game, but it's most definitely on afterburner due to, well, pretty much everything I've heard over the past several months.KotorEffect3 wrote...
Oh geez where do you negative nancies come from ?
I am not saying they should, I just said that I would. I also mentioned that this has most likely hurt the trust between the two companies now and it will have some sort of result later. I never sayed "We should sue them". Don't put words in my mouth thank you.Soul Cool wrote...
I am so glad none of you people are anywhere near the controls of companies that make games that I want to play. "We should sue them" is one of the worst ideas you could possibly propose the developers take one what happens to be one of the largest delivery platforms in the history of mankind.Genshie wrote...
Accident or not it still a violation of trust. Like I wouldn't sue someone who hit me with a car just because it was an "accident". If anything this hurts Bioware's trust in Microsoft which makes me a happy panda since I am Sony.Pretty likely.Genshie wrote...
And also if the Russian hacker could pull this from the beta of the demo then he/somebody probably could do the same with the actual demo on its release. In other words this was bound to happen sometime either sooner or later.
Guest_TheDaniellasaur_*
Paulinius wrote...
I agree that some changes will be made, but most of ME3 is set.
There is not enough time to completely redo the plot, redesign levels, rehire the voice actors, and redo the cinematics, etc.
Regardless of the time and resources needed to make the changes, I believe that the ME3 is happy in keeping most of the story as is or it wouldn't have been included in the beta draft.
TheDaniellasaur wrote...
LGTX wrote...
Fans from the Russian Bioware website. No real "hacking" is needed, I've accessed TLK files of ME2 myself when I wanted to mess around and mod some dialogue responses, it isn't difficult. The problem is that they were THERE. In a beta-demo-something.
I did not know that :| shows how much i bloody know haha.
Obviously implying that you believe it to be the better course of action. One you would recommend. But I forget I am on the Internet, where people take advantage of the lack of contextualization to take advantage of other people.Genshie wrote...
I am not saying they should, I just said that I would.
I agree.Genshie wrote...
I also mentioned that this has most likely hurt the trust between the two companies now and it will have some sort of result later.
You're welcome.Genshie wrote...
I never sayed "We should sue them". Don't put words in my mouth thank you.
Simple he/she wanted attention, cause a ruckus, is an ****, doesn't care, is stupid, thinks they are doing the fans a service, the list goes on and on.LGTX wrote...
TheDaniellasaur wrote...
LGTX wrote...
Fans from the Russian Bioware website. No real "hacking" is needed, I've accessed TLK files of ME2 myself when I wanted to mess around and mod some dialogue responses, it isn't difficult. The problem is that they were THERE. In a beta-demo-something.
I did not know that :| shows how much i bloody know haha.
Don't worry, it's not exactly common knowledge. There was a thread back when ME2 came out which contained instructions on how to access the dialogue TLK files in order to, say, translate them to your own language if it's not supported officially. It wasn't popular because, well, it's purpose was to extend the game TO the least popular.
But the means existed for a long time, that's the point. The Russian hackers' problem was that once they had extracted the info, they decided to just... post it on the net. It's just beyond me why anyone would do that.
TheDaniellasaur wrote...
Paulinius wrote...
I was disappointed when reading the leaked plot file that our "major decisions" mostly came out the same regardless of what you chose.
But I expected that after DA2.
It's still over a 100 days till it comes out. Changes are going to be made.
LGTX wrote...
TheDaniellasaur wrote...
LGTX wrote...
Fans from the Russian Bioware website. No real "hacking" is needed, I've accessed TLK files of ME2 myself when I wanted to mess around and mod some dialogue responses, it isn't difficult. The problem is that they were THERE. In a beta-demo-something.
I did not know that :| shows how much i bloody know haha.
Don't worry, it's not exactly common knowledge. There was a thread back when ME2 came out which contained instructions on how to access the dialogue TLK files in order to, say, translate them to your own language if it's not supported officially. It wasn't popular because, well, it's purpose was to extend the game TO the least popular.
But the means existed for a long time, that's the point. The Russian hackers' problem was that once they had extracted the info, they decided to just... post it on the net. It's just beyond me why anyone would do that.
IanPolaris wrote...
TheDaniellasaur wrote...
Paulinius wrote...
I was disappointed when reading the leaked plot file that our "major decisions" mostly came out the same regardless of what you chose.
But I expected that after DA2.
It's still over a 100 days till it comes out. Changes are going to be made.
That's what Bioware wants you to think, but that's almost certainly a lie. Oh sure there may be a couple of cosmetic changes made, but the vast majority of what we say in those leaked plot-files is almost certainly the way that ME-3 is going to be (and thank you very much for taking a big steaming dump on our actual choices we made in ME1 and ME2.....our choices mattering is yet another lie apparently).
The problem is (as alluded to above) is that with only about 100 days left to go until launch (which really means less than 60 before it goes gold), there simply isn't enough time or resouces to do any substantative changes. In fact there will barely be enough time to do final beta-testing and bug-fixing before release (and any changes would have to be tested and bug-fixed and there simply isn't time). Bottom line: ME-3 is 99% done by this point. They only thing they are doing now is cleaning it up so it looks good for the public. At this stage any major change is almost impossible which means IMHO ME-3 is looking like another DA-2. Nice work Bioware (not).
-Polaris
LGTX wrote...
The Russian hackers' problem was that once they had extracted the info, they decided to just... post it on the net. It's just beyond me why anyone would do that.
So it was written, so shall it be.GodWood wrote...
On the bright side I know I can murder Liara.
That earns them a purchase.
my guess is that you have not read the script. Tehre are indeed more outcomes than one. there are indeed all availible ending and yes it is outdated but they wont change the general main idea that late indevelopement. they will ad and cut some stuff but the main story will be the same in the end.Genshie wrote...
First off this is not Bioware's fault at all it is Microsoft's second the story that was leaked is "OLD and OUTDATED." Plus they already have deleted the original source/thread that started it all and all threads containing spoilers thus far they are either altering and or locking. People are being overly paranoid when there is really nothing to be paranoid about. The script doesn't include all the possibilities and variations of what could happen since some characters have the possibility of being dead before ME3 through ME2's suicide mission also this script contradicts itself in several ways depending on what you did in ME2, that is why alot of people believe this is a set of default choices and results.
Killed the rachni queen?KotorEffect3 wrote...
Oh geez way to jump to conclusions on sketchy details that are dated at this point. There is nothing in the details that indicate that your choices will not matter.
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Oh geez way to jump to conclusions on sketchy details that are dated at this point. There is nothing in the details that indicate that your choices will not matter.
Guest_TheDaniellasaur_*
LGTX wrote...
TheDaniellasaur wrote...
LGTX wrote...
Fans from the Russian Bioware website. No real "hacking" is needed, I've accessed TLK files of ME2 myself when I wanted to mess around and mod some dialogue responses, it isn't difficult. The problem is that they were THERE. In a beta-demo-something.
I did not know that :| shows how much i bloody know haha.
Don't worry, it's not exactly common knowledge. There was a thread back when ME2 came out which contained instructions on how to access the dialogue TLK files in order to, say, translate them to your own language if it's not supported officially. It wasn't popular because, well, it's purpose was to extend the game TO the least popular.
But the means existed for a long time, that's the point. The Russian hackers' problem was that once they had extracted the info, they decided to just... post it on the net. It's just beyond me why anyone would do that.
GodWood wrote...
Killed the rachni queen?KotorEffect3 wrote...
Oh geez way to jump to conclusions on sketchy details that are dated at this point. There is nothing in the details that indicate that your choices will not matter.
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