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[onelifecrisis]

AwesomeName wrote...

LexXxich wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

It doesn't have to be foreshadowed in the previous games, as long as you are aware of that weapon from an early stage of the game, and spend most of it trying to activate it, it's not a DEM.

Actually, it has to be. As I said, in a scope of trilogy. If one plays ME3 without playing previous ones, it won't stand out. Situation is introduced and resolved in one game. But the full story becomes disjointed. War is won by means never before mentioned, and not influenced by our previous decisions/adventures.

Imho, there has been - that's all I'm going to say though

uh? There has been what?

[aridor1570]

onelifecrisis wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

LexXxich wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

It doesn't have to be foreshadowed in the previous games, as long as you are aware of that weapon from an early stage of the game, and spend most of it trying to activate it, it's not a DEM.

Actually, it has to be. As I said, in a scope of trilogy. If one plays ME3 without playing previous ones, it won't stand out. Situation is introduced and resolved in one game. But the full story becomes disjointed. War is won by means never before mentioned, and not influenced by our previous decisions/adventures.

Imho, there has been - that's all I'm going to say though

uh? There has been what?

There has been a hint to this "Weapon", I'm not going to say anything else.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

aridor1570 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

LexXxich wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

It doesn't have to be foreshadowed in the previous games, as long as you are aware of that weapon from an early stage of the game, and spend most of it trying to activate it, it's not a DEM.

Actually, it has to be. As I said, in a scope of trilogy. If one plays ME3 without playing previous ones, it won't stand out. Situation is introduced and resolved in one game. But the full story becomes disjointed. War is won by means never before mentioned, and not influenced by our previous decisions/adventures.

Imho, there has been - that's all I'm going to say though

uh? There has been what?

There has been a hint to this "Weapon", I'm not going to say anything else.

To be honest I've never read the leaked story and never will. Tell me, is there chekov gun involved? You know it's been recovered by cerberus and probably reverse engineered by now (game time)

[onelifecrisis]

aridor1570 wrote...

LexXxich wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

It doesn't have to be foreshadowed in the previous games, as long as you are aware of that weapon from an early stage of the game, and spend most of it trying to activate it, it's not a DEM.

Actually, it has to be. As I said, in a scope of trilogy. If one plays ME3 without playing previous ones, it won't stand out. Situation is introduced and resolved in one game. But the full story becomes disjointed. War is won by means never before mentioned, and not influenced by our previous decisions/adventures.

That still isn't the definision of a DEM.

Actually, it is the definition of a DEM.
http://en.wikipedia....Deus_ex_machina
http://tvtropes.org/...n/DeusExMachina

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 08 novembre 2011 - 08:51 .

[aridor1570]

onelifecrisis wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

LexXxich wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

It doesn't have to be foreshadowed in the previous games, as long as you are aware of that weapon from an early stage of the game, and spend most of it trying to activate it, it's not a DEM.

Actually, it has to be. As I said, in a scope of trilogy. If one plays ME3 without playing previous ones, it won't stand out. Situation is introduced and resolved in one game. But the full story becomes disjointed. War is won by means never before mentioned, and not influenced by our previous decisions/adventures.

That still isn't the definision of a DEM.

Actually, it is the definition of a DEM.
http://en.wikipedia....Deus_ex_machina

But this thing isn't just something that happens out of nowhere, you find out about it and you're looking for a way to activate it throughout the game, it's not just *Poof* and the reapers are gone.

I think I should qoute someone from the old thread, but it's bery spoilery.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

^chekov gun reverse engineered by cerberus back in me2? the gun that made this to reaper:
http://images.wikia....Dead_Reaper.png

Modifié par PnXMarcin1PL, 08 novembre 2011 - 08:55 .

[aridor1570]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

AwesomeName wrote...

LexXxich wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

It doesn't have to be foreshadowed in the previous games, as long as you are aware of that weapon from an early stage of the game, and spend most of it trying to activate it, it's not a DEM.

Actually, it has to be. As I said, in a scope of trilogy. If one plays ME3 without playing previous ones, it won't stand out. Situation is introduced and resolved in one game. But the full story becomes disjointed. War is won by means never before mentioned, and not influenced by our previous decisions/adventures.

Imho, there has been - that's all I'm going to say though

uh? There has been what?

There has been a hint to this "Weapon", I'm not going to say anything else.

To be honest I've never read the leaked story and never will. Tell me, is there chekov gun involved? You know it's been recovered by cerberus and probably reverse engineered by now (game time)

Actually, this thing from the leaks is very huge plot-wise, are you sure you want to risk the spoilers?

[PnXMarcin1PL]

no aridor, i dont want to risk it xD
to be honest i dont want to ruin my game

[onelifecrisis]

aridor1570 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

LexXxich wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

It doesn't have to be foreshadowed in the previous games, as long as you are aware of that weapon from an early stage of the game, and spend most of it trying to activate it, it's not a DEM.

Actually, it has to be. As I said, in a scope of trilogy. If one plays ME3 without playing previous ones, it won't stand out. Situation is introduced and resolved in one game. But the full story becomes disjointed. War is won by means never before mentioned, and not influenced by our previous decisions/adventures.

That still isn't the definision of a DEM.

Actually, it is the definition of a DEM.
http://en.wikipedia....Deus_ex_machina

But this thing isn't just something that happens out of nowhere, you find out about it and you're looking for a way to activate it throughout the game, it's not just *Poof* and the reapers are gone.

I think I should qoute someone from the old thread, but it's bery spoilery.

A plot device introduced in Act 3, with no foreshadowing, which then completely solves the Big Problem which was introduced in Act 1, is a DEM by practically any definition. And speaking of definitions, I really think you should read the extra link I added in my edit, as it explains that whether something is a DEM is not always clear-cut.

[Phaedon]

IanPolaris wrote...
They can't be that old since they were for the last beta test of the Demo before it was to be released in Jan.  Consider too that the basic story arc and lines are finalized FIRST.  Yes there can be some tweaking and deletions done later, but the major story won't change much from even a year old draft.

-Polaris

Wait. A .tlk file that doesn't import data on to the beta can't be "too old"? How old it is, remains to be seen. The fact that it doesn't actually carry info on the demos we have been showed doesn't say much however.

[CDRSkyShepard]

Thanks for the update, Chris. Good to know this was a first draft.

I didn't get why people were letting their stomachs get into knots in the first place over this, it reads just like the early draft notes I write for my essays, short stories, and fan fictions...just getting a feel for what I want to see happen.

[aridor1570]

Phaedon wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...
They can't be that old since they were for the last beta test of the Demo before it was to be released in Jan.  Consider too that the basic story arc and lines are finalized FIRST.  Yes there can be some tweaking and deletions done later, but the major story won't change much from even a year old draft.

-Polaris

Wait. A .tlk file that doesn't import data on to the beta can't be "too old"? How old it is, remains to be seen. The fact that it doesn't actually carry info on the demos we have been showed doesn't say much however.

But, the OP already explains how old it is, it's one of the very first drafts.

[CptBomBom00]

Hold the spoilers threads until the release.
I know that this is impossible^^^.

[Stardusk78]

I think ME3 should be postponed an extra 6 months...people will wait, I will.

[aridor1570]

onelifecrisis wrote...



A plot device introduced in Act 3, with no foreshadowing, which then completely solves the Big Problem which was introduced in Act 1, is a DEM by practically any definition. And speaking of definitions, I really think you should read the extra link I added in my edit, as it explains that whether something is a DEM is not always clear-cut.

I really can't explaing it more than that, I suggest you read a post in the old thread at the 42th page, by Balek.

[onelifecrisis]

aridor1570 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...



A plot device introduced in Act 3, with no foreshadowing, which then completely solves the Big Problem which was introduced in Act 1, is a DEM by practically any definition. And speaking of definitions, I really think you should read the extra link I added in my edit, as it explains that whether something is a DEM is not always clear-cut.

I really can't explaing it more than that, I suggest you read a post in the old thread at the 42th page, by Balek.

Just how spoilery is it?

[aridor1570]

onelifecrisis wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...



A plot device introduced in Act 3, with no foreshadowing, which then completely solves the Big Problem which was introduced in Act 1, is a DEM by practically any definition. And speaking of definitions, I really think you should read the extra link I added in my edit, as it explains that whether something is a DEM is not always clear-cut.

I really can't explaing it more than that, I suggest you read a post in the old thread at the 42th page, by Balek.

Just how spoilery is it?

After re-reading it, not that spoilery, but it still mentions the weapon, so if you don't know about it, don't read it.

[Phaedon]

aridor1570 wrote...
But, the OP already explains how old it is, it's one of the very first drafts.

Yeah, I didn't word my post very well. I don't think that it could be much older than one year old plus something, though.

[onelifecrisis]

aridor1570 wrote...

After re-reading it, not that spoilery, but it still mentions the weapon, so if you don't know about it, don't read it.

Okay thanks for the tip, I'll have a think about whether I want to read it or not.

[staindgrey]

Well, that's a relief.

Still left a bad taste in my mouth, though, from what was spoiled for me in goddamn topic titles.

[Drone223]

Good to hear Chris

Also the guy who released the beta has he been fired?

[CptBomBom00]

 

[HK-90210]

Usefull update is usefull.

[Phaedon]

Drone223 wrote...

Good to hear Chris

Also the guy who released the beta has he been fired?

I hope not. It was an honest mistake, the kind that you don't want to see people get fired over in this economic climate.

[IanPolaris]

Phaedon wrote...

Drone223 wrote...

Good to hear Chris

Also the guy who released the beta has he been fired?

I hope not. It was an honest mistake, the kind that you don't want to see people get fired over in this economic climate.

It's my undertstanding that it wasn't a Bioware employee that made the mistake anyway.  That was courtesy MS.

-Polaris