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Yuoaman wrote...

Hey, I love Mordin and Wrex as much as the next guy (they're on par with Garrus and Tali for me), but they're not exactly the kind of people to have time to just hang around Shepard's ship all the time. Wrex is uniting the clans on Tuchanka and Mordin is a genius scientist who would probably do more good working in a lab not constantly on the move.

Which reminds me of Tali & Garrus who would be much more needed on their homeworlds.

Someone With Mass wrote...

Still, that is one weak excuse.

Not weaker than "Tali's important to Geth/Quarian war" lololol

Cthulhu42 wrote...

But the point is they can't put every squadmate on the ME3 team. And if they can only have a certain amount, it makes sense to include the ones who've been through the most with Shepard. They can't please everyone, but by including Tali and Garrus they're probably keeping more people happy than if they had chosen any other two squadmates instead.

No. Since the numbers of spots is limited, it makes sense to give the spot to characters who only had it once, not to Tali & Garrus who had it twice already. That pleases more people throughout the entire trilogy than focusing on pleasing the same fanbase as in ME2 again and again.

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ratzerman wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

And for many Shepard's they will have been.


Not mine.  My Shepard's bff is... :crying:


I think it's time for all us old timers to admit the obvious: Bioware hates us, and wants us to go away.

Rest assured, we still have Liara.

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jlb524 wrote...

I for one don't give a rat's butt hole if Tali/Garrus are back full time.

It's something ELSE I don't like.


The damned guns are back, I know.

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No. Since the numbers of spots is limited, it makes sense to give the spot to characters who only had it once, not to Tali & Garrus who had it twice already. That pleases more people throughout the entire trilogy than focusing pleasing the same fanbase as in ME2 again.

Risky. I believe that it's likely that, regardless of what squadmate role sizes are, each fan group would feel the same way about each squadmate getting that spot. The VS fans want a large role because it would make up for ME2, while the Dextro fans want a large role because of the precedent set. We of Liara's house, of course, are confident of glory eternal because our hands have touched divinity, but that's beside the point. People will be equally pleased or pissed regardless of whom they like, if their squadmate has a certain role, and it's safer to focus on the more popular ones in such a case.

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IsaacShep wrote...
Not weaker than "Tali's important to Geth/Quarian war" lololol


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> Number of spots available is limited.

> Let's use the less popular characters to fill those spots.

> Profit.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
Not weaker than "Tali's important to Geth/Quarian war" lololol


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I'm not sure. I don't like that that situation has occurred, but I do believe that it fits the VS best.

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IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

> Number of spots available is limited.

> Let's use the less popular characters to fill those spots.

> Profit.


Let's put Jacob in that spot.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Rest assured, we still have Liara.


Yeah, but at what cost? Once again, the ME1 fans suffer while everyone who came onboard with ME2 won't have to shed a tear. 

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Someone With Mass wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

> Number of spots available is limited.

> Let's use the less popular characters to fill those spots.

> Profit.


Let's put Jacob in that spot.


Well there will be profit... not great profit, but still profit.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

> Number of spots available is limited.

> Let's use the less popular characters to fill those spots.

> Profit.


Let's put Jacob in that spot.


Would be better than Tali. She needs to actually help out her own race in the whole geth/quarian deal.

Jacob doesn't really have anything like that to be doing.

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S: Have a minute to talk, Jacob?

J: Yes, Commander.

S: So about that mission..

J: It's all good.

S: Good talk, Jacob.

J: Any time, Commander.




S: Got a minute, Jacob?

J: Again? I'm not into this whole talk-y thing.

S: Oh.

J: . . .

S: I should go.



..Jacob would have been perfect. Lol.

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ratzerman wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Rest assured, we still have Liara.


Yeah, but at what cost? Once again, the ME1 fans suffer while everyone who came onboard with ME2 won't have to shed a tear. 


I don't see why you have to belong to one or the other camp. Characters from both lineups will be in the game in differing capacaties, and pretty much every character that was a squadmate in ME1 has a major role.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

> Number of spots available is limited.

> Let's use the less popular characters to fill those spots.

> Profit.


Let's put Jacob in that spot.


Would be better than Tali. She needs to actually help out her own race in the whole geth/quarian deal.

Jacob doesn't really have anything like that to be doing.


I haven't read any of the spoilery files so I don't know if she actually does help or not.

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ratzerman wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Rest assured, we still have Liara.


Yeah, but at what cost? Once again, the ME1 fans suffer while everyone who came onboard with ME2 won't have to shed a tear. 

There's been an albatross hanging over those particular two ever since ME1, regrettably. And the way things are now, if this plot must take place, then it seems most appropriate for them to fulfill it.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

> Number of spots available is limited.

> Let's use the less popular characters to fill those spots.

> Profit.


Let's put Jacob in that spot.


Would be better than Tali. She needs to actually help out her own race in the whole geth/quarian deal.

Jacob doesn't really have anything like that to be doing.


I think he has a Blandness Pageant to be in next week...

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Xilizhra wrote...

Risky. I believe that it's likely that, regardless of what squadmate role sizes are, each fan group would feel the same way about each squadmate getting that spot. The VS fans want a large role because it would make up for ME2, while the Dextro fans want a large role because of the precedent set. We of Liara's house, of course, are confident of glory eternal because our hands have touched divinity, but that's beside the point. People will be equally pleased or pissed regardless of whom they like, if their squadmate has a certain role, and it's safer to focus on the more popular ones in such a case.

The point is, every other character has to 'fight' for that 2nd spot. And the pool is limited. And here comes Tali & Garrus to make that pool even smaller. And they already had their 2nd spot. I like Garrus myself alot. But I like other characters too and would like to see more of them, Legion for example. Or Wrex.

Someone With Mass wrote...

Let's put Jacob in that spot.

And if BioWare did that then what, he deserves that spot less than Tali?

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ratzerman wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Rest assured, we still have Liara.


Yeah, but at what cost? Once again, the ME1 fans suffer while everyone who came onboard with ME2 won't have to shed a tear. 

I don't follow this.
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jlb524 wrote...

I for one don't give a rat's butt hole if Tali/Garrus are back full time.

It's something ELSE I don't like.


Agreed. And agreed.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Would be better than Tali. She needs to actually help out her own race in the whole geth/quarian deal.

Jacob doesn't really have anything like that to be doing.


The Reapers aren't restricted to Earth. They're slowly but steady cleansing the galaxy.

Garrus probably knows that he can make more of a difference by Shepard's side than fighting Reapers on Pavalen.

Same with the rest of the crew that are actively by Shepard's side.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Risky. I believe that it's likely that, regardless of what squadmate role sizes are, each fan group would feel the same way about each squadmate getting that spot. The VS fans want a large role because it would make up for ME2, while the Dextro fans want a large role because of the precedent set. We of Liara's house, of course, are confident of glory eternal because our hands have touched divinity, but that's beside the point. People will be equally pleased or pissed regardless of whom they like, if their squadmate has a certain role, and it's safer to focus on the more popular ones in such a case.

The point is, every other character has to 'fight' for that 2nd spot. And the pool is limited. And here comes Tali & Garrus to make that pool even smaller. And they already had their 2nd spot. I like Garrus myself alot. But I like other characters too and would like to see more of them, Legion for example. Or Wrex.

Someone With Mass wrote...

Let's put Jacob in that spot.

And if BioWare did that then what, he deserves that spot less than Tali?

 Wait, what precisely do you mean by "2nd spot?"

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Same with the rest of the crew that are actively by Shepard's side.

Ohh right, so it's "Tough luck ME2 characters, you met Shepard too late"?

Xilizhra wrote...

 Wait, what precisely do you mean by "2nd spot?"

Second time as a perma squaddie. Garrus and Tali already were and will be perma squaddies AGAIN, for the 3rd time, while the rest of the characters have to 'fight' to get even that 2nd time.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

I don't follow this. There are more returning squadmates from ME1 than from ME2. There are more scripted ME2 squadmate deaths than ME1 squadmate deaths, if the spoilers are to be believed. So what's the problem?


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Dasher1010 wrote...]
If it's not the final version does that mean that we might ahve even MORE weapons?


Or fewer. :devil:



:devil:

What ever you do, leave the Black Widow alone! ...please?

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IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

S: Have a minute to talk, Jacob?

J: Yes, Commander.

S: So about that mission..

J: It's all good.

S: Good talk, Jacob.

J: Any time, Commander.




S: Got a minute, Jacob?

J: Again? I'm not into this whole talk-y thing.

S: Oh.

J: . . .

S: I should go.



..Jacob would have been perfect. Lol.


S: Have a minute to talk, Tali?

T: No, I'm in trouble WAH!

S: let's go take care of that


S: Tali, it wasn't your fault, let's expose the truth

T: WAH, WAH, WAH!!!!


S: Hey tali

T: OMG THE GETH! WAH WAH WAH!


Yeah, so much better.

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