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[Someone With Mass]

shep82 wrote...
Thank you finally someone else with reason I thought that didn't exist here.

Yeah, I agree.

If it had been the actual script for the game, that'd been one thing, but it isn't. Because then it'd contain a lot more than that.

Not to mention that it could've might as well been the devs brainstorming some ideas.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 10 novembre 2011 - 03:10 .

[burr beer]

Now that we know how the previous squadmates appear in the game, who are the 2 most useless members to bring into ME3 for a save where only 2 survive the suicide mission?

[Costin_Razvan]

What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck. And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)

Yeah because Bioware has an amazing track record at providing consequences for player choices, especially those in previous games.

Right.

[Someone With Mass]

Genshie wrote...
What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck.  And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)

You forgot to add those who seriously thinks that this script or whatever was made like last week.

Or those who believe that it's based on the whole game, for that matter. Like, every scene and moment there is.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 10 novembre 2011 - 03:43 .

[Yuoaman]

[/quote]What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck.  And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)
[/quote]

BUT THE BETA WAS LEAKED LAST WEEK, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE FILES IN IT ARE FROM THEN.

[KotorEffect3]

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

[shep82]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

Problem is there are those that won't believe Mr. Priestly at all.

[burr beer]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

What do you think he's supposed to say in a PR statement 4 months before the game ships? Sorry, this is the dialogue from the game, enjoy.

Some of it will change, it's very unlikely the plot will change at this point.  Game has been content complete for a while now.

shep82 wrote...
Problem is there are those that won't believe Mr. Priestly at all.

His job is to do PR for Bioware.  I'm not blaming him for doing his job.  Just keep in mind that this is the same person who told us that Kasumi wasn't real when her character files leaked before the announcement.

Modifié par burr beer, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:50 .

[Yuoaman]

burr beer wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

What do you think he's supposed to say in a PR statement 4 months before the game ships? Sorry, this is the dialogue from the game, enjoy.

Some of it will change, it's very unlikely the plot will change at this point.  Game has been content complete for a while now.

Oh god, you really believe that, don't you?

Suuuure, that's exactly how game development works.

[KotorEffect3]

shep82 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

Problem is there are those that won't believe Mr. Priestly at all.

Or they are more likely looking for excuses to continue the negativity, troll the bsn, or whatever.  There is nothing they can do to disprove what Mr Priestly is saying.

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:54 .

[KotorEffect3]

Yuoaman wrote...

burr beer wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

What do you think he's supposed to say in a PR statement 4 months before the game ships? Sorry, this is the dialogue from the game, enjoy.

Some of it will change, it's very unlikely the plot will change at this point.  Game has been content complete for a while now.

Oh god, you really believe that, don't you?

Suuuure, that's exactly how game development works.

And you know how it works?  Do you have any basis to validate your negativity?  I love how you say "it is just PR".  Anything to keep you negativity going eh?

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:55 .

[burr beer]

Yuoaman wrote...

burr beer wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

What do you think he's supposed to say in a PR statement 4 months before the game ships? Sorry, this is the dialogue from the game, enjoy.

Some of it will change, it's very unlikely the plot will change at this point.  Game has been content complete for a while now.

Oh god, you really believe that, don't you?

Suuuure, that's exactly how game development works.

Since you seem to be a know-it-all, explain to me why I'm wrong.

[shep82]

burr beer wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

What do you think he's supposed to say in a PR statement 4 months before the game ships? Sorry, this is the dialogue from the game, enjoy.

Some of it will change, it's very unlikely the plot will change at this point.  Game has been content complete for a while now.

shep82 wrote...
Problem is there are those that won't believe Mr. Priestly at all.

His job is to do PR for Bioware.  I'm not blaming him for doing his job.  Just keep in mind that this is the same person who told us that Kasumi wasn't real when her character files leaked before the announcement.

And I can throw this at you. What would you like him to say? "Oh yeah thats a special secret character that is in development?" I'm sorry that doesn't track for me. HE is saying that this is data from early builds of the game and likely some notes of general plot ideas just like the unused data from ME 2. I believe him you and many others don't that's fine. I fully expect that some of this is in the game but likely in a very changed format. 

[SkittlesKat96]

The whole write up of the loyalty quest and the character of Zaeed was completely different before the game came out...they still kept the files in the game of Zaeed's old personality/character and loyalty quest and everything.

Also iirc there were a batch of well hidden files in ME 1 and apparently they were meant to have Batarian enemies, and quests involving Batarians and the end choice of the game was a little different...

[burr beer]

KotorEffect3 wrote...
And you know how it works?  Do you have any basis to validate your negativity?  I love how you say "it is just PR".  Anything to keep you negativity going eh?

I gave you an example with Kasumi.  Was that PR or was that the truth?

[MasterEcabob]

What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck.  And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)

BUT THE BETA WAS LEAKED LAST WEEK, OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE FILES IN IT ARE FROM THEN.

I know you're being sarcastic, but since there are actual people out there who believe something like this...

- The 'scipt' refers to James as Jimmy, when we've known his official name since early this year
- A major squady/plot point has now been either scrapped or reduced to day-one DLC
- Neither Thane's mission on Invictus, or any missions on Illium are mentioned
- No mention of the Abjuntants (new husk forms SEEN IN PULSE)
- The descriptions for the Prologue and Krogan Princess level DIRECTLY CONTRADICT the sequences actually found on the demo.

And those are just off the top of my head.  Here's how I take the spoilers:  All those homeworlds mentioned in the outline?  Yeah, we're probably going to all those and doing more or less what the spoilers say.  The endgame, "DEM" and final decision?  Those are all probably legit.  Everything else, especially anything talking about squadmates?  Old crap that has since been changed. 

Okay, rant over.  ME3 will be the worst game ever, blah blah blah.  This hurts you!

Modifié par MasterEcabob, 10 novembre 2011 - 05:26 .

[burr beer]

It's just unfortunate that people will take Priestly at his word when he's shown time and time again he's willing to lie to keep the community calm just as often as he tells the truth.  Like you said, he can't tell us that the script is real, all he can say is that it's "old."

[Yuoaman]

burr beer wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

burr beer wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Damn negative nancies since most of you can't seem to read let me quote Mr Priestly here

"Following the accidental public release of the internal beta, some information was extracted from game files that was then released on the internet. That information was found in test entries in our database which represent rough notes on mission summaries from early story drafts. These story outlines do not form the actual game script, and since most of these entries are from first-draft story documents, many of the elements will be different in the final game. These simplified entries also do not represent the actual dialog, non-linearity, or interactive choices in the actual game. In fact, the team is still hard at work writing and implementing final versions of storylines and dialog."

He specificaly says it does not represent actual dialog, non-linearity, or choices in game. Negative ones you need to learn to read entire posts and stop ignoring things.

What do you think he's supposed to say in a PR statement 4 months before the game ships? Sorry, this is the dialogue from the game, enjoy.

Some of it will change, it's very unlikely the plot will change at this point.  Game has been content complete for a while now.

Oh god, you really believe that, don't you?

Suuuure, that's exactly how game development works.

Since you seem to be a know-it-all, explain to me why I'm wrong.

I'm in a game development program at university and while I'm not an expert, I do know one thing: **** happens. Sometimes a game will be going fine until, suddenly, a couple of months before launch a new feature or an entirely new level may be added because somebody higher up wanted it, or because it was forgotten. Things aren't cut-and-dry in game development. Things are tumultuous and they'll change at a moment's notice.

[1136342t54_]

burr beer wrote...

It's just unfortunate that people will take Priestly at his word when he's shown time and time again he's willing to lie to keep the community calm just as often as he tells the truth.  Like you said, he can't tell us that the script is real, all he can say is that it's "old."

Because it is old. It doesn't take a genius level intellect to figure out that a datamine from a 6 month old beta contains old information about some of the plot.

[Someone With Mass]

I like to think that talking about a secret character and talking about dated scripts will be two different things.

That they're not lying all the time.

With a character like this rumored Prothean, they have all the rights to lie about it or throw people off track, so they're not ruining the fun for everyone. There's no harm in playing with people a little about it.

With a dated script, they have no reason to give false information and they're just saying "Hey, some of this might make it into the final game and some of it won't, so we're urging you to not take it all to the heart."

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 10 novembre 2011 - 05:19 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Genshie wrote...
What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck.  And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)

Statistics and probability.
Almost every time a scrip for a game has been leaked, the end game was practicly the same. Ayn changes were cosmetic in nature. And given that it's only a few months left, I'd say chances are that that scrip is what's really going on. Chances of any major changes (and major changes would be necessary) is miniscule.

Besides, what's in the script is totally something EA/BioWare would do now, so why should anyone have any trouble believing it?

[Lotion Soronarr]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Genshie wrote...
What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck.  And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)

You forgot to add those who seriously thinks that this script or whatever was made like last week.

Or those who believe that it's based on the whole game, for that matter. Like, every scene and moment there is.

Thing is - it doesn't matter.

The basic story outline doesn't require every sentance and every scene. The main plot points can tell you how well thought out the main story arc is.
Seriously, the romances and interaction with crew members can be the greatest Bioware has ever done yet - and it would still have 0 impact on the actual main plot.
If the main plot does end as it does in the script, no amount of nakes alien babe ass can salvage it.

[Kanon777]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Genshie wrote...
What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck.  And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)

You forgot to add those who seriously thinks that this script or whatever was made like last week.

Or those who believe that it's based on the whole game, for that matter. Like, every scene and moment there is.

Thing is - it doesn't matter.

The basic story outline doesn't require every sentance and every scene. The main plot points can tell you how well thought out the main story arc is.
Seriously, the romances and interaction with crew members can be the greatest Bioware has ever done yet - and it would still have 0 impact on the actual main plot.
If the main plot does end as it does in the script, no amount of nakes alien babe ass can salvage it.

And what is so bad about what you read?
Unless youre a Cerberus fanboy who wanted Cerberus to be just a missunderstood organization instead of the evil group they've always show to be, theres nothing there you should really complain...

[Dexi]

Was the script this bad?...

[DiebytheSword]

tobito113 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Genshie wrote...
What I am getting sick of is everyone automatically assuming that ending to the leak script is 100% true. I am sick of Nancys taking the script so seriously when it is old as heck.  And people who don't think that Bioware can't change things in 4+ months. (They may not be able to change anything huge but that doesn't mean the can't change things at all)

You forgot to add those who seriously thinks that this script or whatever was made like last week.

Or those who believe that it's based on the whole game, for that matter. Like, every scene and moment there is.

Thing is - it doesn't matter.

The basic story outline doesn't require every sentance and every scene. The main plot points can tell you how well thought out the main story arc is.
Seriously, the romances and interaction with crew members can be the greatest Bioware has ever done yet - and it would still have 0 impact on the actual main plot.
If the main plot does end as it does in the script, no amount of nakes alien babe ass can salvage it.

And what is so bad about what you read?
Unless youre a Cerberus fanboy who wanted Cerberus to be just a missunderstood organization instead of the evil group they've always show to be, theres nothing there you should really complain...

Either that, or he misapplies Deus Ex Machina to the final bit of the leak, which I have successfully debunked multiple times.

I have a feeling that a lot of people are using confirmation bias to tell them what they were already planning to know, ME3 will not satisfy the version they built up for themselves.