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[Derahu]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

KingDuncan wrote...

Alex_SM wrote...

Just add a few more lines  on the side and you'll have the plot structure of the Witcher 2

That's because making a plotline where decisions matter is extremely easy, you only have to accept that it's impossible to see 100% of the story in a single playtrhough. 

No one read those "choose your own story" books as a kid? It's mostly the same. And those books made it in less than 100 pages. 

I think you may on to something here. Maybe for some unknown reason BioWare is intentionally avoiding that by having linear stories? Do they not realize that a sizable part of their audience plays through the game more than once? I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would do that, because IMO, doing one playthrough and shelving the game afterwards is just a waste of money.

Oh I have a friend that played through it once completely, tried to replay but could never complete the game a second time.  Also, in regards to the supposed linear plot, remember that every decision across the trilogy branches exponentially with every choice by the player.  I think Bioware underestimated the sheer size of decisions at the end of the trilogy even when their games are usually 30 hrs in length to complete anyway.  I just hope in the final script that they will make the major decisions count and not waste time on side missions.  I would prefer the main story to be amazing than a side quest that started in ME1 be amazing but only lasting 10 minutes.

[Alanosborn1991]

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[AquamanOS]

Yeah alot of that is placeholder stuff that's clearly joke lines they certainly aren't going to have in the actual game.

I think. Most of it is unintelligble to me. And the only thing I actually want to know, namely who all the squadmates (aside from the surviving ME1 and James, who we already know) and whether you can freely choose them I can't seem to find here.

[thatguy212]

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[Nanuzsh]

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wtf...?

Modifié par Jessica Merizan, 12 novembre 2011 - 04:51 .

[marstor05]

I lol'd

[BobTheAndroid]

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[Alex_SM]

Derahu wrote...

Also, in regards to the supposed linear plot, remember that every decision across the trilogy branches exponentially with every choice by the player.  I think Bioware underestimated the sheer size of decisions at the end of the trilogy even when their games are usually 30 hrs in length to complete anyway.

And that's the reason why, when you want to make a trilogy, you need to write down the whole story before starting. 

If you have all the paths you are going to make at least described since the begining, then there's no problem with decisions. You know what are the key ones, and what they imply, and what are the details, and the amount of possible paths never "grows exponentially". 

[Siansonea]

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I gotta disagree, there, Sugarcube. This reads like bad fanfiction. The Chakwas scene was melancholy and heartfelt, it had gravitas. This is so fanservicey it's not even funny.

Modifié par Jessica Merizan, 12 novembre 2011 - 04:52 .

[Iakus]

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That would be ideal for me too, but I don't mind having other squadmates helping out on certain  missions.It's a galactic war after all.

I just hope I can keep them both alive.  Looks like in ME3, plot armor is gone.

Modifié par Jessica Merizan, 12 novembre 2011 - 04:53 .

[Venydar]

@Siansonea II - It is bad fanfiction. I have not found anything like that in leaked files.

[Someone With Mass]

Siansonea II wrote...
I gotta disagree, there, Sugarcube. This reads like bad fanfiction. The Chakwas scene was melancholy and heartfelt, it had gravitas. This is so fanservicey it's not even funny.

You haven't seen half of it. 

There are references out the ass in this file when it comes to the squad and their lives.

[Someone With Mass]

Venydar wrote...

@Siansonea II - It is bad fanfiction. I have not found anything like that in leaked files.

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Modifié par Jessica Merizan, 12 novembre 2011 - 04:55 .

[Someone With Mass]

Nevermind.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 11 novembre 2011 - 08:37 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

IanPolaris wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Except they don't and that's the point.  The Rachni Arc is a prime example.

-Polaris

You've played it, then?  Maybe you could PM me the full details (since, you know, spoilers).  It won't take long, since I guess there won't be any variation between the options.

If you've read both sets of spoilers then you know exactly what I mean, so don't be cheeky.  Your choice in ME1 doesn't matter at all, and the game LIES to you in ME2.

-Polaris

Can you PM me with the details?  Thanks.

[Killjoy Cutter]

IanPolaris wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

They're not retcons. A retcon undoes something that is previously established with no justification.

These are treated as story developments. Even Leliana would be one if her ressurection is explained. They're cheap developments that make your choices meaningless, but developments all the same.

Then it's a retcon.  If an important choice is made irrelevant, then it's a retcon at least in my book.  Either way it disrspects the player's prior choice and is contrary to the promises that we were given.

-Polaris

A retcon involves an undoing of what has already happened, so that it did not actually happen or happened in a way significanty different from what we were originally shown.  Lucas changing SW:ANH so that Greedo fires first is a retcon. 

[Someone With Mass]

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Modifié par Jessica Merizan, 12 novembre 2011 - 04:56 .

[Genshie]

Guys it is has been asked not just by me, but many other users, and admins/mods that you guys not post spoilers. Keept them off the threads, pm eachother, and ect..

[Killjoy Cutter]

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Why, because it has Tali in it?

Modifié par Jessica Merizan, 12 novembre 2011 - 04:56 .

[Someone With Mass]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Why, because it has Tali in it?

Don't you know? Anything that has Garrus or Tali in it is fanservice according to this forum.

[AdmiralCheez]

Ctrl+Fing "drunk" when I get back from dinner.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Why, because it has Tali in it?

Don't you know? Anything that has Garrus or Tali in it is fanservice according to this forum.

(Pssst... that was kinda my point...   )

[Killjoy Cutter]

Genshie wrote...

Guys it is has been asked not just by me, but many other users, and admins/mods that you guys not post spoilers. Keept them off the threads, pm eachother, and ect..

At least on my screen, they need to be selected / highlighted manually before they're visible...

[Someone With Mass]

They should really improve their spoiler system.

[charmingcharlie]

Thought I would post this, I was a bit bored of Minecraft so I had a browse through the leaked files (yeah yeah I am scum should burn in hell and all that jazz).  I suddenly noticed this that actually made me laugh out loud.  Now I would NOT class this as a spoiler, it has nothing to do with the Mass Effect universe but it may make some chuckle :-

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