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[1136342t54_]

Fordtransit wrote...

Yep.

I cant understand whats the fuss and "wave of dissapointment" is about. Lets wait for the real deal.

With all previous experience, you cant expect that Bioware blows all its promices out of a airlock. Well, you can actually, but why would they do that? They know who the paying customers are, why would they want to lose them? It would not make sence. I smell a great game in baking:)

There is no real large amount of dissapointment. It just seems that way since most of the people who actually like the leak aren't as vocal about it as those who dislike it. 

[Alex06]

1136342t54 wrote...

Fordtransit wrote...

Yep.

I cant understand whats the fuss and "wave of dissapointment" is about. Lets wait for the real deal.

With all previous experience, you cant expect that Bioware blows all its promices out of a airlock. Well, you can actually, but why would they do that? They know who the paying customers are, why would they want to lose them? It would not make sence. I smell a great game in baking:)

There is no real large amount of dissapointment. It just seems that way since most of the people who actually like the leak aren't as vocal about it as those who dislike it. 

Pretty much. I personally liked it and it felt like a natural development from what happened in ME1 and ME2. And the way I see it, every character except Conrad Verner is mentionned or seen, even those from comics & novels. (Though I'm sure Conrad'll reappear too, just not as part of a quest)

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I'm still going to wait until the
ACTUAL and FINISHED product comes out before making any judgements. I
have already said on several occations that there are enough
inconsistencies between the "leaked" script and what has been
shown/confirmed by devs via interviews and game conventions for me to
NOT put much faith into the leak. In short, it's wiser to just wait and
see.

Actually, I checked, and it seems that there are no contradictions with established canon, especially if you take into account any and all possibilities, such as Wrex not being alive, Ashley having died instead of Kaidan, etc. There's also the fact it apparently is not the final plot, so changes have taken place, and I'm sure some content is missing from this "script/plot outline".

More than that, I'm not gonna say, because I refuse to spoil the story. You're going to have to do it by yourselves if you want to.

Modifié par Alex06, 15 novembre 2011 - 04:49 .

[1136342t54_]

Hey can someone PM me a link to the story leak on 4 chan? I just want some info on the codex and a little squad banter.

Edit: @Alex I didn't check the spoilers yet so I really can't judge. Although I'd say I trust the ME team to make a good or even great game. DA2 was a mixture of EA rushing that team and the team actually wanting to do something different.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 15 novembre 2011 - 01:13 .

[Fordtransit]

With all the conspiricy theories about everything, i started thinking, and decided to make one of my own; This is the ms conspiricy to promote xbox?! You get games leaked... Nah, too much coffe, too little sleep.

Modifié par Fordtransit, 16 novembre 2011 - 03:46 .

[cactusberry]

Was hoping someone here could PM me a link to the spoilers? My friend doesn't have a Social account and he is bugging me to ask for it.

[John Renegade]

TheDarkRats wrote...

Was hoping someone here could PM me a link to the spoilers? My friend doesn't have a Social account and he is bugging me to ask for it.

The link should be somewhere in the ME3 Spoilers group. Look there, or ask someone who visits the group (not me I don't have it any more).

[Patius Mehaffius]

Alex06 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Fordtransit wrote...

Yep.

I cant understand whats the fuss and "wave of dissapointment" is about. Lets wait for the real deal.

With all previous experience, you cant expect that Bioware blows all its promices out of a airlock. Well, you can actually, but why would they do that? They know who the paying customers are, why would they want to lose them? It would not make sence. I smell a great game in baking:)

There is no real large amount of dissapointment. It just seems that way since most of the people who actually like the leak aren't as vocal about it as those who dislike it. 

Pretty much. I personally liked it and it felt like a natural development from what happened in ME1 and ME2. And the way I see it, every character except Conrad Verner is mentionned or seen, even those from comics & novels. (Though I'm sure Conrad'll reappear too, just not as part of a quest)

CARL_DF90 wrote...

I'm still going to wait until the
ACTUAL and FINISHED product comes out before making any judgements. I
have already said on several occations that there are enough
inconsistencies between the "leaked" script and what has been
shown/confirmed by devs via interviews and game conventions for me to
NOT put much faith into the leak. In short, it's wiser to just wait and
see.

Actually, I checked, and it seems that there are no contradictions with established canon, especially if you take into account any and all possibilities, such as Wrex not being alive, Ashley having died instead of Kaidan, etc. There's also the fact it apparently is not the final plot, so changes have taken place, and I'm sure some content is missing from this "script/plot outline".

More than that, I'm not gonna say, because I refuse to spoil the story. You're going to have to do it by yourselves if you want to.

The only leak that was blasted to me was the ultimate ending. While it kind of um, is not what I wanted out of it, I understand, I guess. 
Still wish they'd change it though.

[Dexi]

Meh, I just wish someone would leak the whole game, I can't wait until March :-S

[Nightdragon8]

so wait... whats the complaint about really? is it because it got leaked or was it because they are disapointed in what the leak contained???

[Merchant2006]

^ Exactly. This is the unnatural f**kery that is BSN. They **** about something that probably doesn't exist anymore. Like Human Rights.

[Geth_Prime]

http://uk.ps3.ign.co.../1212599p1.html

BioWare are apparently changing the story due to the leaks, based on fan feedback.

They say the leaks had an overall positive effect, so I don't have to feel bad I posted that stuff on the forums in the first place anymore!

[DCarter]

Geth_Prime wrote...

http://uk.ps3.ign.co.../1212599p1.html

BioWare are apparently changing the story due to the leaks, based on fan feedback.

The article doesn't say that. 

Modifié par DCarter, 16 novembre 2011 - 04:45 .

[lucidfox]

I'm of two minds about the leak.

Being naturally in favor of freedom of information, I don't usually see leaks - or spoilers, for that matter - as a bad thing. A good story holds its weight even when all the "shocking" twists are known in advance, because the key is knowing how they happen.

However, I'm concerned about the game's thematic direction. Some plot points in the leaked script struck me as really stupid - something I wouldn't expect from the writers of ME1 and ME2. And some plot points are immersion-breaking and would be better fit for a Star Wars story than for the more realistic take BioWare has consistently assumed since ME1.

It was the believability, the verisimilitude, that sold me on ME1 and to a lesser extent ME2. I don't see that in the ME3 draft. Many things, too many to count, feel cartoonish and cliche.

Coupled with Origin, unnecessary multiplayer, silly comic tie-ins written by a Star Wars writer, and marketing putting emphasis on things I don't normally enjoy in the ME series (I'm one of the few people who liked DA2's story... take it as you will), I'm seriously considering passing ME3 aside, because the more I learn about it, the more I become convinced that it will fail to be a satisfying conclusion to the Reaper trilogy. It also makes me wonder if BioWare really has a sense of an intended feel of the setting, or if they just wing it and ME1's verisimilitude was accidental.

[didymos1120]

Geth_Prime wrote...

They say the leaks had an overall positive effect, so I don't have to feel bad I posted that stuff on the forums in the first place anymore!

No, Ray Muzyka said it might have a positive effect.  You didn't read the original interview:

"It's hard to say something like that having a positive benefit, but if it gets more people to check out Mass Effect 3 that would be a positive benefit, and I think they should, because I think it's a great game."

Modifié par didymos1120, 16 novembre 2011 - 05:23 .

[Someone With Mass]

Geth_Prime wrote...

http://uk.ps3.ign.co.../1212599p1.html

BioWare are apparently changing the story due to the leaks, based on fan feedback.

They say the leaks had an overall positive effect, so I don't have to feel bad I posted that stuff on the forums in the first place anymore!

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

Especially if it has been given good feedback.

[didymos1120]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

And that's the trouble with relying on IGN's second-hand summary of another site's article:

The leaked script generated much debate among fans, and it is this feedback that BioWare may use to tweak the story ahead of the game's 2012 launch.

Modifié par didymos1120, 16 novembre 2011 - 05:54 .

[Patius Mehaffius]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Geth_Prime wrote...

http://uk.ps3.ign.co.../1212599p1.html

BioWare are apparently changing the story due to the leaks, based on fan feedback.

They say the leaks had an overall positive effect, so I don't have to feel bad I posted that stuff on the forums in the first place anymore!

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

Especially if it has been given good feedback.

But it really hasn't. All I've seen is people posting the ending because they don't like it and people complaining about cartoonish plot elements. I'm compelled to agree. Some of the stuff seems like it would fit better in Metal Gear Solid 5.

[Someone With Mass]

I liked most of the stuff in the files.

I'm also not expecting the most spectacular game/story in the history of video games.

Also, this very vocal site will whine and moan about ANYTHING BioWare puts out there.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 16 novembre 2011 - 05:59 .

[Patius Mehaffius]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I liked most of the stuff in the files.

I'm also not expecting the most spectacular game/story in the history of video games.

Also, this very vocal site will whine and moan about ANYTHING BioWare puts out there.

Fair enough. It's really just one thing that strikes me as metal gearish. 

[Chewin]

Someone With Mass wrote...
I'm also not expecting the most spectacular game/story in the history of video games.

Yeah, well I never expected that in the first place. The story did look very original in the first place. Though I do like the Geth/Quarian conflict.

[lucidfox]

It's not the story being original - ME1's story was, after all, basically the standard cookie-cutter BioWare plot in a new setting. Or KOTOR without Jedi, if you will.

It's the overall direction and execution of the setting, and the way the plot and characters fit within the worldbuilding framework. It's hard to convey in words, but I did get an impression back in ME1 that the writers took their world seriously and genuinely wanted it to look believable. Something I don't see in what I know so far of ME3.

[Someone With Mass]

Chewin3 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
I'm also not expecting the most spectacular game/story in the history of video games.

Yeah, well I never expected that in the first place. The story did look very original in the first place. Though I do like the Geth/Quarian conflict.

I liked the wide variety of choices and outcomes in that particular conflict. Didn't think they could do so much with it.

[Chewin]

^Yeah, that in particular.

Modifié par Chewin3, 16 novembre 2011 - 06:19 .

[Kevin Martell]

lucidfox wrote...

It's not the story being original - ME1's story was, after all, basically the standard cookie-cutter BioWare plot in a new setting. Or KOTOR without Jedi, if you will.

It's the overall direction and execution of the setting, and the way the plot and characters fit within the worldbuilding framework. It's hard to convey in words, but I did get an impression back in ME1 that the writers took their world seriously and genuinely wanted it to look believable. Something I don't see in what I know so far of ME3.

Out of curiosity, do you mean that there are now so many plot holes that the story has become unbelievable (as in, it makes no sense), or that something has been introduced to the story that makes it unbelievable (as in, supernatural elements or something)?