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[The_11thDoctor]

That's what I was wandering? I mean if the people here have any comprehension of the story in ME1-2, they know there were tons of plot holes making all who played frustrated with the story and pulling us out of immersion especially with ME1 and having evidence against Serien the entire time we never brought to them, the council as a whole didnt make sense, there were tons of things, but the tone of the game due to the settings, world, the high quality Voice Acting, the Conversation system was amazing, they had tons of loot, armor, exploring though annoying due to sparse planets and things to kill. The shooting wasnt the best but it was good enough to play and there was powers to have fun with. These things made ME games fun to play despite the huge plot holes.

Despite the fact that they havent shown almost anything on ME3, I wander where his/ her judgment is coming from? I just hope they finally make the ME3 mature again like ME1 was. ME2 should have been a teen rated game.

[Haron50]

http://www.3djuegos....fect-3-tras-la/

i not understood,why Bioware change the history of ME3 only for a leaked,no look spoilers and this is a solution but no change the history,only have few months and no is possible create in five months other history.

the product need work for much tieme no a product incomplete,i wait a good game no other Dragon Fail 2!!

this information is true?i think seriously cancel the preorder.

[JeffZero]

But the actual interview with BioWare's founders gives only the slightest hint that any changes will be made based upon fan feedback. I'm not sure what the article you're linking says -- I don't speak that language -- but I can assure you it isn't going to be anything big, regardless of what that article may claim.

Modifié par JeffZero, 16 novembre 2011 - 11:24 .

[Haron50]

didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

And that's the trouble with relying on IGN's second-hand summary of another site's article:

The leaked script generated much debate among fans, and it is this feedback that BioWare may use to tweak the story ahead of the game's 2012 launch.

is true?Bioware change the history only for a fans furious?

ok the result of this is similarity of Dragon fail 2,few months and work Fast only create a fail of game.

please no change the history only for a noobs of look the leaked.

i look more confirmation and in the moment of this is true i cancel the preorder and never buy more games of Bioware.

Modifié par Haron50, 16 novembre 2011 - 11:28 .

[onelifecrisis]

JeffZero wrote...

But the actual interview with BioWare's founders gives only the slightest hint that any changes will be made based upon fan feedback.

I didn't think it even so much as hinted. It looked to me like they took a quote and intentionally removed it from its original context in order to make a headline.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 16 novembre 2011 - 11:35 .

[JeffZero]

Haron50 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

And that's the trouble with relying on IGN's second-hand summary of another site's article:

The leaked script generated much debate among fans, and it is this feedback that BioWare may use to tweak the story ahead of the game's 2012 launch.

is true?Bioware change the history only for a fans furious?

ok the result of this is similarity of Dragon fail 2,few months and work Fast only create a fail of game.

please no change the history only for a noobs of look the leaked.

i look more confirmation and in the moment of this is true i cancel the preorder and never buy more games of Bioware.

Hey. Heeey. *waves flag* Hey, I'm trying to tell you that this isn't the case and that second-hand accounts are confusing you, not what was actually stated by BioWare.

*puts flag down* But you know, if you really wanna stick it to the man and all that jazz, then by all means, don't buy BioWare games. It's your money... *shrug*

[JeffZero]

onelifecrisis wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

But the actual interview with BioWare's founders gives only the slightest hint that any changes will be made based upon fan feedback.

I didn't think it even so much as hinted. It looked to me like they took a quote and intentionally removed it from its original context in order to make a headline.

Yeah, probably.

[DiebytheSword]

Arcian wrote...

Really, to me reading the leaks is a little like reading a book before it's turned into a 30 hour tv series. You know what'll happen, but it's the visual and audio aspects of the show that surprises and ultimately entertains you. When it's a game, it just goes further by adding gameplay and interactivity on a level no book, movie or tv series could ever approach. Of course, this is a matter of preference - no doubt there are people out there who strongly oppose my view.

Worse, its like reading a dialogue outline, perhaps with production notes thrown in, for the subtitles of the finished product before watching the TV show.  A book has full disclosure through flavor text and description, this datamine has neither.

[chris2365]

Has anyone heard this before?:

( This must be what happens when Garrus miscalibrates the Normandy's guns) Sorry if already posted

Modifié par chris2365, 16 novembre 2011 - 11:43 .

[Haron50]

JeffZero wrote...

Haron50 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

And that's the trouble with relying on IGN's second-hand summary of another site's article:

The leaked script generated much debate among fans, and it is this feedback that BioWare may use to tweak the story ahead of the game's 2012 launch.

is true?Bioware change the history only for a fans furious?

ok the result of this is similarity of Dragon fail 2,few months and work Fast only create a fail of game.

please no change the history only for a noobs of look the leaked.

i look more confirmation and in the moment of this is true i cancel the preorder and never buy more games of Bioware.

Hey. Heeey. *waves flag* Hey, I'm trying to tell you that this isn't the case and that second-hand accounts are confusing you, not what was actually stated by BioWare.

*puts flag down* But you know, if you really wanna stick it to the man and all that jazz, then by all means, don't buy BioWare games. It's your money... *shrug*

but you no understood? the problem is the change in few months of release!!

the result of games is a game with Less content and work very fast.

 
remember DA2 and the product result for the time.

i no read the leaked,why i receive a product changed for other people?

the fans of miranda,the fans of tali and the other fans only have problems and for this bioware change the history?

what is the result of game for the Conformity of all people a ending happy and all squad importants lives?no man.

much people only have a problem for the leaked,and the question is why read the leaked?

Modifié par Haron50, 16 novembre 2011 - 11:45 .

[Sharizah]

I hope so. There are people out there, who are quite confident with the story, but they tend not to go /rage mode in the official forums, so maybe you don't see them as much here around, but they exist

Don't want anything major changed in the "last minute".

Modifié par Sharizah, 16 novembre 2011 - 11:46 .

[Karulo]

I strongly doubt Bioware will throw away the story and history they've been working on for months and replace it with some half-hearted slapdash plot. They'll probably make some small changes here and there, but in my opinion, even if there HADN'T been a leak, I reckon they'd still tweak story and dialogue between now and release anyway since there are always better ways of doing things. This might even be a blessing in disguise; some fan input may help change some things for the better.
At the moment, I'm not too steamed up about this whole thing (unless it starts radically altering things) as there's still some user-control over it all; I certainly don't intend to go looking for leaked info. I'm operating an eyes-closed, ears-blocked, la-la-la policy regarding ME3, have been all the way through. No spoilers for me THIS time around!

[TheDangerZone91]

I just hope the game isn't as follows:

Pick Option A in ME1: Outcome 1
Pick Option B in ME1: Outcome 1

the whole "characters doing a 180" thing troubles me. I don't know why they could not shape the game based on what choices you made in 1 and 2.

IF, that is the case.

[alperez]

lucidfox wrote...

It's the overall direction and execution of the setting, and the way the plot and characters fit within the worldbuilding framework. It's hard to convey in words, but I did get an impression back in ME1 that the writers took their world seriously and genuinely wanted it to look believable. Something I don't see in what I know so far of ME3.

This is a huge problem i have with the leaks, from what i've seen a lot of the overall direction seems to be something they actually never put that much thought into, a lot of the plot points and the characterisation just seems off almost as if its another game or series altogether imo.

At time certain things and certain actions taken by characters seem forced to fit the plot which creates a potential for a complete lack of immersion or having that immersion blown away by certain things that happen.

The worst thing though is that its not as if mass effect was a single game that they decided to expand into 2 sequels and then also tried to incorporate all the key points or choices of the previous 2 games into the last one (if this was the case it would be a lot more forgiveable), but the series was conceived as a trilogy where choices carried forward through 2 games leading to an ending in the third.

So rather than have character arcs flow and make sense, some characters actions seem to make no sense at all and others are given the most ridicolous of motivations for what they're doing which again breaks immersion imo.

To me it comes across as whatever original idea they may have had has been abandoned (maybe because it ended up being to hard to implement all the choices and ramifications) and what were getting is a mish mash that technically covers all the bases even if it doesn't do so that well.

[shep82]

Haron50 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Haron50 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

And that's the trouble with relying on IGN's second-hand summary of another site's article:

The leaked script generated much debate among fans, and it is this feedback that BioWare may use to tweak the story ahead of the game's 2012 launch.

is true?Bioware change the history only for a fans furious?

ok the result of this is similarity of Dragon fail 2,few months and work Fast only create a fail of game.

please no change the history only for a noobs of look the leaked.

i look more confirmation and in the moment of this is true i cancel the preorder and never buy more games of Bioware.

Hey. Heeey. *waves flag* Hey, I'm trying to tell you that this isn't the case and that second-hand accounts are confusing you, not what was actually stated by BioWare.

*puts flag down* But you know, if you really wanna stick it to the man and all that jazz, then by all means, don't buy BioWare games. It's your money... *shrug*

but you no understood? the problem is the change in few months of release!!

the result of games is a game with Less content and work very fast.

 
remember DA2 and the product result for the time.

i no read the leaked,why i receive a product changed for other people?

the fans of miranda,the fans of tali and the other fans only have problems and for this bioware change the history?

what is the result of game for the Conformity of all people a ending happy and all squad importants lives?no man.

much people only have a problem for the leaked,and the question is why read the leaked?

It won't be drastically changed trust me. Just tweaked it will be fine.

[lucidfox]

Kevin Martell wrote...
Out of curiosity, do you mean that there are now so many plot holes that the story has become unbelievable (as in, it makes no sense), or that something has been introduced to the story that makes it unbelievable (as in, supernatural elements or something)?

The latter.

I don't think the ME trilogy has plot holes, at least, not so far and not any that can't be explained.

There are no supernatural elements in the leak, at least none that I noticed, but there are plot elements that I would expect to see in Star Wars or Doctor Who than in a more serious SF story.

[Patius Mehaffius]

lucidfox wrote...

Kevin Martell wrote...
Out of curiosity, do you mean that there are now so many plot holes that the story has become unbelievable (as in, it makes no sense), or that something has been introduced to the story that makes it unbelievable (as in, supernatural elements or something)?

The latter.

I don't think the ME trilogy has plot holes, at least, not so far and not any that can't be explained.

There are no supernatural elements in the leak, at least none that I noticed, but there are plot elements that I would expect to see in Star Wars or Doctor Who than in a more serious SF story.

Yeah. It's more of that. 

[didymos1120]

Haron50 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Somehow I doubt that they're going to change the story they've been working on for over two years and make those changes fit in less than four months.

And that's the trouble with relying on IGN's second-hand summary of another site's article:

The leaked script generated much debate among fans, and it is this feedback that BioWare may use to tweak the story ahead of the game's 2012 launch.

is true?Bioware change the history only for a fans furious?

Uh, no, it's that site's take on their interview with Ray Muzyka in which they discussed the leak.  Hence the "may".

[Jaron Oberyn]

I'm sure the Ashley/Kaidan fanboys/girls getting angry over the certain event that occurred probably got their attention. That's one thing I'm guessing they might change. Don't know what else though. Other than the linearity of things, most likely due to it being a draft, it seemed pretty ok to me.

-Polite

[Iakus]

You gotta admit, after what they put us through already, both in ME2 and elsewhere in ME3, it was a touch excessive, no?

[Confused-Shepard]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

I'm sure the Ashley/Kaidan fanboys/girls getting angry over the certain event that occurred probably got their attention. That's one thing I'm guessing they might change. Don't know what else though. Other than the linearity of things, most likely due to it being a draft, it seemed pretty ok to me.

-Polite

I don't understand why Bioware is so intent on demonizing the VS
What did Ashley Willaims call Casey Hudson gay?

[Shockwave81]

Arcian wrote...

Really, to me reading the leaks is a little like reading a book before it's turned into a 30 hour tv series. You know what'll happen, but it's the visual and audio aspects of the show that surprises and ultimately entertains you. When it's a game, it just goes further by adding gameplay and interactivity on a level no book, movie or tv series could ever approach. Of course, this is a matter of preference - no doubt there are people out there who strongly oppose my view.

I happen to agree wholeheartedly.  I decided to read the leaked script but what I read won't spoil my gameplay experience for the reasons you've stated.

[Wittand25]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

I'm sure the Ashley/Kaidan fanboys/girls getting angry over the certain event that occurred probably got their attention. That's one thing I'm guessing they might change. Don't know what else though. Other than the linearity of things, most likely due to it being a draft, it seemed pretty ok to me.

-Polite

There is already a different version of that event in the leaked files, that seems to happen earlier in the story and without the forced choiche.