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[bleetman]

Well, they're hardly going to point out which parts are accurate and which parts aren't, are they?

[ryoldschool]

To Chris, ok, I am deleting the shortcut to this forum, never to return, its too dangerous to avoid spoilers. A shame really. Looking forward to the game.

[IanPolaris]

bleetman wrote...

Well, they're hardly going to point out which parts are accurate and which parts aren't, are they?

No, that would indeed be asking too much, but if some of the most contraversial/poorly recieved parts of the leaked files are wrong (such as the VS confrontation), then BW would do themselves a lot of good by saying so.  The fact they haven't tells me that the leaked files are probably correct about this and many other problematic things.

-Polaris

[CroGamer002]

bleetman wrote...

Well, they're hardly going to point out which parts are accurate and which parts aren't, are they?

Well then they would start to spoil stuff if they do that.


If they say x is inaccurate, then people will know y is accurate.

[onelifecrisis]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Thanks for the update, but isn't this stuff we already knew?

Pretty much. The last official word was "it seems that some outdated files were leaked".
This new update says "some outdated files were leaked".

[CroGamer002]

IanPolaris wrote...

No, that would indeed be asking too much, but if some of the most contraversial/poorly recieved parts of the leaked files are wrong (such as the VS confrontation), then BW would do themselves a lot of good by saying so.  The fact they haven't tells me that the leaked files are probably correct about this and many other problematic things.

-Polaris

What about this and this?

Why isn't that real in ME2?

[Dragoonlordz]

Well done Bioware, the gameplay demo leak was one thing and only covered small part of game. With this new leak unlike the other one you have effectively made me from this point on avoid your ME3 section of forums 100% (after this post) incase some retard posts excerpts from leak as thread titles. Learn to take more care of information, especially plot based information and no I don't buy into it will all be way off base regarding plot in final game vs leaked information; as I am sure some of it maybe even some of the major bits might be actually spot on.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 novembre 2011 - 05:27 .

[aridor1570]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Thanks for the update, but isn't this stuff we already knew?

Pretty much. The last official word was "it seems that some outdated files were leaked".
This new update says "some outdated files were leaked".

But they've also confirmed how old these drafts are.

Modifié par aridor1570, 08 novembre 2011 - 05:28 .

[bleetman]

Mesina2 wrote...

If they say x is inaccurate, then people will know y is accurate.

Exactly.

[IanPolaris]

Mesina2 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

No, that would indeed be asking too much, but if some of the most contraversial/poorly recieved parts of the leaked files are wrong (such as the VS confrontation), then BW would do themselves a lot of good by saying so.  The fact they haven't tells me that the leaked files are probably correct about this and many other problematic things.

-Polaris

What about this and this?

Why isn't that real in ME2?

Did you read what you quoted?  There are some parts of the leaked files that are causing angst (and not just from me....the VS confrontation for starts) and the fact that Bioware isn't saying that part is false is almost a red flag to many of us that it is in fact accurate.

-Polaris

[shepskisaac]

I just love how IanPolaris pretends he doesn't see my posts any longer. C'mon. What do you have to say to the FACT James is being called Jimmy in half of the script even though we've known he's called James since the beginning of the year? And what do you have to say to the FACT that virtually all games contain outdated/unused files/concepts/dialogues in their files including many other BioWare games in the past?

[ODST 5723]

IanPolaris wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Well, they're hardly going to point out which parts are accurate and which parts aren't, are they?

No, that would indeed be asking too much, but if some of the most contraversial/poorly recieved parts of the leaked files are wrong (such as the VS confrontation), then BW would do themselves a lot of good by saying so.  The fact they haven't tells me that the leaked files are probably correct about this and many other problematic things.

-Polaris

If they don't come out and tell you that the things you find most controversial, or that you recieved poorly, aren't correct, you will assume they are probably correct.

I don't like that logic at all.

If they come out and talk about that point, what else do they need to talk about?  Seems to me just about everything because there's pockets of people who have issues all over the place.

Instead, I'm content with hearing nothing and getting to play wait and see.

[DCarter]

bleetman wrote...

Well, they're hardly going to point out which parts are accurate and which parts aren't, are they?

No and i can appreciate that bioware are in a difficult spot right now but this update just seems to be a recommunication of stuff they've already said. 

[onelifecrisis]

IsaacShep wrote...

I just love how IanPolaris pretends he doesn't see my posts any longer. C'mon. What do you have to say to the FACT James is being called Jimmy in half of the script even though we've known he's called James since the beginning of the year? And what do you have to say to the FACT that virtually all games contain outdated/unused files/concepts/dialogues in their files including many other BioWare games in the past?

You do know that Jimmy is an informal version of James, right?

[CroGamer002]

IanPolaris wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

What about this and this?

Why isn't that real in ME2?

Did you read what you quoted?  There are some parts of the leaked files that are causing angst (and not just from me....the VS confrontation for starts) and the fact that Bioware isn't saying that part is false is almost a red flag to many of us that it is in fact accurate.

-Polaris

There are some stupid things in those files I linked and were not in final game.



And they CAN'T say x is inaccurate since then people will know y is accurate, cause it spoils the game.

[IanPolaris]

ODST 5723 wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Well, they're hardly going to point out which parts are accurate and which parts aren't, are they?

No, that would indeed be asking too much, but if some of the most contraversial/poorly recieved parts of the leaked files are wrong (such as the VS confrontation), then BW would do themselves a lot of good by saying so.  The fact they haven't tells me that the leaked files are probably correct about this and many other problematic things.

-Polaris

If they don't come out and tell you that the things you find most controversial, or that you recieved poorly, aren't correct, you will assume they are probably correct.

I don't like that logic at all.

If they come out and talk about that point, what else do they need to talk about?  Seems to me just about everything because there's pockets of people who have issues all over the place.

Instead, I'm content with hearing nothing and getting to play wait and see.

You might not like that logic but it's how the human mind works.  "Where there is smoke, there is fire" is an old saying for a reason.  I understand why Bioware wants to keep details a secret.  I do.

However, the damage is done and some of the information that's been leaked is clearly damaging.  It's best to deal with those parts (like the AS issue) directly.  At least that's my take.

-Polaris

[xx M Rossi xx]

Anyone can send me a pm linking to the actual script or a file? I'd like to read it.

[Almostfaceman]

IsaacShep wrote...

I just love how IanPolaris pretends he doesn't see my posts any longer. C'mon. What do you have to say to the FACT James is being called Jimmy in half of the script even though we've known he's called James since the beginning of the year? And what do you have to say to the FACT that virtually all games contain outdated/unused files/concepts/dialogues in their files including many other BioWare games in the past?

Let it flail about, it's fun to watch.

[aridor1570]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

aridor1570 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Thanks for the update, but isn't this stuff we already knew?

Pretty much. The last official word was "it seems that some outdated files were leaked".
This new update says "some outdated files were leaked".

But they've also confirmed how old these drafts are.

No they haven't. They've said "first drafts", which most of us already could tell. They gave no specific date as to when they come from.

By first drafts we already know they are more than 5 months old.

[onelifecrisis]

bleetman wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

If they say x is inaccurate, then people will know y is accurate.

Exactly.

Yeah, I agree, it'd make no sense for them to start confirming or denying anything for certain. Better to vaguely imply that some of it might or might not be innacurate, like they did with MP.

[Estelindis]

Thanks for the very clear update, Chris. I'm glad that Bioware is endorsing a spoiler-free policy for the BSN. :-)

[IanPolaris]

Mesina2 wrote...

And they CAN'T say x is inaccurate since then people will know y is accurate, cause it spoils the game.

That is a non-sequitor.  Just because x is confirmed to be inaccurate doesn't confer any information about y.  I agree that all other things being equal it's best not to say anything.  The problem BW has now is all other things are no longer equal.  There are definate issues that people are having with the leaked information, and that damage will continue until and unless it's confirmed or denied.  Better to remove a foot than lose an entire limb (or your life).  The same principle applies here.

-Polaris

[CroGamer002]

IanPolaris wrote...

You might not like that logic but it's how the human mind works.  "Where there is smoke, there is fire" is an old saying for a reason.  I understand why Bioware wants to keep details a secret.  I do.

However, the damage is done and some of the information that's been leaked is clearly damaging.  It's best to deal with those parts (like the AS issue) directly.  At least that's my take.

-Polaris

I they know that's poorly written, then why do they keep it in complete game?


It makes no sense.




And if they go directly, they'll start to spoil an entire game.
Which would be worse then ME2's spoilerific marketing.