and she is always my Marian Hawke's other half, I find blood magic rather interesting as I am going to make a blood mage to go with Merrill 
Modificata da SinnSly, 09 novembre 2011 - 07:16 .
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Modificata da happy_daiz, 08 novembre 2011 - 07:12 .
alex90c wrote...
I found Merrill's braindead character just infuriating.
Seven years later in Kirkwall: "HURDURHUR IM STUPID GUYS"
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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
alex90c wrote...
I found Merrill's braindead character just infuriating.
Seven years later in Kirkwall: "HURDURHUR IM STUPID GUYS"
Nope, don't recall her ever being stupid in Act 3. Or in the whole game really.
How rude.alex90c wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
alex90c wrote...
I found Merrill's braindead character just infuriating.
Seven years later in Kirkwall: "HURDURHUR IM STUPID GUYS"
Nope, don't recall her ever being stupid in Act 3. Or in the whole game really.
Just how I *don't* recall myself ever wanting to repeatedly whack her with a spade to beat the naive out of her.
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That's funny, coming from someone with a Liara avatar.alex90c wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
alex90c wrote...
I found Merrill's braindead character just infuriating.
Seven years later in Kirkwall: "HURDURHUR IM STUPID GUYS"
Nope, don't recall her ever being stupid in Act 3. Or in the whole game really.
Just how I *don't* recall myself ever wanting to repeatedly whack her with a spade to beat the naive out of her.
Cthulhu42 wrote...
That's funny, coming from someone with a Liara avatar.alex90c wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
alex90c wrote...
I found Merrill's braindead character just infuriating.
Seven years later in Kirkwall: "HURDURHUR IM STUPID GUYS"
Nope, don't recall her ever being stupid in Act 3. Or in the whole game really.
Just how I *don't* recall myself ever wanting to repeatedly whack her with a spade to beat the naive out of her.
alex90c wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
alex90c wrote...
I found Merrill's braindead character just infuriating.
Seven years later in Kirkwall: "HURDURHUR IM STUPID GUYS"
Nope, don't recall her ever being stupid in Act 3. Or in the whole game really.
Just how I *don't* recall myself ever wanting to repeatedly whack her with a spade to beat the naive out of her.
Modificata da The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 novembre 2011 - 08:53 .
SinnSly wrote...
I'm wondering what are your opinions on her?
adneate wrote...
SinnSly wrote...
I'm wondering what are your opinions on her?
I don't much like her.
Cute characters are much like sugar for a cup of tea, too little is not great but you can manage. Just right is perfect and you greatly enjoy it, but too much sugar is almost instantly off putting and it just ruins it.
Merril spends too much time in this big eyed, naive, socially awkward Kawaii wasteland. Nothing puts me off a character faster than when I feel the writers using the cute stick to bludgeon me into liking them. Characters have cute moments, they should not be defined by being cute. If they are then they cease to be characters and become cartoons as far as I'm concerned.
Also the voice, It grates on my nerves. Which is unfair of me, I admit it, but it doesn't make her any less annoying sounding.
TeenZombie wrote...
This is what my problem is with Merrill, I think. I *want* to like her, because it's not her fault that she was pigeonholed into the cute+innocent female character slot, but I'm just not a fan of that trope. There's nothing wrong with cute and innocent, but after seven years in Kirkwall, I would have liked to know that she could get home without her ball of twine...if she remembered her ball of twine. I started liking Leliana and Liara a lot more after their own DLC...because we got to see more layers to their personalities, and I got new insights into them, that made them more understandable, and attractive, to me personally.
Perhaps if I saw Merrill on an adventure of her own, or after being away from Hawke and the gang for a while, I would see her being more self reliant and competent, and that would go a long way towards making her a relatable character for me.
She is very pretty, but not sexy to me. Cute and innocent and unable to find her way home after seven years in a city just isn't my cup of tea.
Modificata da The Ethereal Writer Redux, 08 novembre 2011 - 09:14 .
TeenZombie wrote...
Perhaps if I saw Merrill on an adventure of her own, or after being away from Hawke and the gang for a while, I would see her being more self reliant and competent, and that would go a long way towards making her a relatable character for me.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
You do know that she doesn't need that ball of twine anymore right? She tries to give it back to Varric since she now knows her way around Kirkwall fairly well, and Varric tells her to keep it because it can serve other purposes beyond being a trail.
Merrill must always be with Hawke. The gods demand it.
jlb524 wrote...
TeenZombie wrote...
Perhaps if I saw Merrill on an adventure of her own, or after being away from Hawke and the gang for a while, I would see her being more self reliant and competent, and that would go a long way towards making her a relatable character for me.
So her entire personal mission means nothing?
Modificata da TeenZombie, 08 novembre 2011 - 09:23 .
bleetman wrote...
She gets called "stupid" around as often as Isabela gets called a w****, from what I can tell. That, and a whole lot of expressed desire to murder her, for some bizarre reason. Look at her, not picking up on innuendo or doing everything Hawke says! She deserves death and so forth.
*shrug*
For me, she's my joint favourite character. Not that I think she's flawless or necessarily agree with everything she does, but neither serve as prerequisites to being interesting as far as I'm concerned. Other way around, actually. It also helps that she's adorable, caring and has funny banters with Isabela. Funny banters with Isabela are never a bad thing.
(She also has her own thread for just this kind of thing
Cthulhu42 wrote...
Merrill's my favourite character in the game (although Varric is close), and I romance her as often as not. As to how anyone could hate her, some people just have an irrational hatred for cute female LI characters. It's why Tali has as many haters as she does.
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
alex90c wrote...
The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
alex90c wrote...
I found Merrill's braindead character just infuriating.
Seven years later in Kirkwall: "HURDURHUR IM STUPID GUYS"
Nope, don't recall her ever being stupid in Act 3. Or in the whole game really.
Just how I *don't* recall myself ever wanting to repeatedly whack her with a spade to beat the naive out of her.
Naivety =/= stupidity. It does however equal inexperience with the world.
And that's natural for Merrill. She's lived in her clan for her whole life, and she's never really fit in. Only a few other clan members were friendly -- which isn't the same as being her friends -- with her. Her clan has never seen fit to lie and trick people, because they've never been near humans and have never seen the need.
Her first year in Kirkwall, she doesn't pick up on these things because she doesn't understand the need for them. Again, that's kinda natural. And personally, I find it adorable that she's inexperienced. It makes things funny in a sort of "Oh you" type of way.
She's smart enough though to realize that if she was by herself and tried to go to Kirkwall she wouldn't make it.
But over the years, her friendship with Varric and Isabela (and potentially Hawke) helps her to become more comfortable with life. She ceases to be naive and becomes more experienced. She's able to pick up on sarcasm and jokes more easily.
Confidence is another issue. In her clan, she was definitely confident. Although she never quite fit in -- which might be due to her being from another clan and going to Marethari's when she was 4 -- she has no qualms about telling off Master Ilen, Hahren Paivel, and eventually Keeper Marethari.
Again, her lack of confidence outside the clan is understandable. She's never dealt with humans or city elves before. The only city elf she's ever known is Pol. But just hanging out with one city Elf isn't enough to know how to act around them all.
And again, this is where her own experience in the Alienage and her friendship with Varric and Isabela helps her to grow. By Act 3, she has friends within the Alienage, Nyssa being one.
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