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[SarunasAndSoOn]

Jessica Merizan wrote...

Again, please quit the MP money talk and get back on topic or thread gets locked.

I should go,
Jess

if the mp talk gets ast page 9, I as the OP will start begging you to do so.

[SarunasAndSoOn]

ha! look at that!

[Ricinator]

@Sarunasandsoon
it may not lose anything but it really doesn't gain much either because the resources are being spent else where. It is alot of effort they could have focused into the SP instead of splitting teams.

[FluffyScarf]

They could have focused on SP in ME 1 if they didn't dumb it down for the console.

[didymos1120]

1136342t54 wrote...

False. Wreav didn't have a big meeting ground for the different clans. Wreav had his plan and a few ambassadors from others so he wouldn't be in a war with the others or some other reasons.

I think the complaint is that Wreav shouldn't have allowed Grunt to attempt the Rite because he was a traditionalist.  Thing is, Wreav's reasons for doing so actually were traditionalist ones: he allowed it because of who Okeer was, as opposed to Wrex, who allowed it in spite of that.

[Terror_K]

SarunasAndSoOn wrote...

they should be ignoring us based on the way were behaving, assuming that theyre some ****s who only want to leech money off us isnt going to impress them much, it wont make them want to give you want you want either. 

So... you're saying that because we're accusing BioWare of being corporate tools pandering to the mainstream CoD nut, they should retaliate by acting more like corporate tools pandering to the mainstream CoD nut?

[Ricinator]

FluffyScarf wrote...

They could have focused on SP in ME 1 if they didn't dumb it down for the console.

when it comes to the ME1 argument i think you are in the very small minority...

*waits for people to fly outta the woodwork*

[1136342t54_]

Terror_K wrote...

But all that was sound and fury signifying nothing in the game. Tuchanka was the same in either case. It looked exactly the same

Tuchanka has looked the same likely for centuries.

and had the same krogan standing in the same places with the same issues,

The camp was mostly urdnot anyway so it was likely some of those issues weren't to different.

it had the same sidequests, etc.

Pyjaks were the fault of a Salarian merchant. Urdnot still needs vehicles like everyother clan so obviously they will have mechanic. Grunt and Mordin's loyalty missions won't change because they aren't really directly related to Urdnot anyway.

Beyond colouring the dialogue a little and having somebody different sitting on the throne, the place was the same, despite supposedly completely opposite governing.

Well considering Wreav didn't take the females of the Blood pack like Wrex did. Isn't researching food and genetics like Wrex ordered and Wreav is also not seen as a reformer like Wrex along with many other things there were differences.

Edit: If you really are talking more about the environment and design of the main part of Tuchanka you have to understand one thing. It was always a **** hole:P

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 10 novembre 2011 - 12:45 .

[1136342t54_]

didymos1120 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

False. Wreav didn't have a big meeting ground for the different clans. Wreav had his plan and a few ambassadors from others so he wouldn't be in a war with the others or some other reasons.

I think the complaint is that Wreav shouldn't have allowed Grunt to attempt the Rite because he was a traditionalist.  Thing is, Wreav's reasons for doing so actually were traditionalist ones: he allowed it because of who Okeer was, as opposed to Wrex, who allowed it in spite of that.

Well I didn't have much of a problem with Wreav's reasoning for letting Grunt do the rite since it wasn't totally off for a krogan.

[AdmiralCheez]

I have reached the conclusion that anyone who thinks Tuchanka is the same regardless of who's on the throne has no soul.

"Shepard! My friend!"

If you didn't cry manly tears, you have no soul.

/wrex fangirl bias

[Epic777]

jreezy wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

They could have focused on SP in ME 1 if they didn't dumb it down for the console.

For the love of all that's intelligent please tell me you're joking.

I could have sworn ME1 was for the XBOX first, then got ported over...

[FluffyScarf]

Well it's obvious they were limited by consoles. Imagine how much more content they could have packed into the uncharted worlds. Or how much more complex they could have made the combat beyond holding down one button and going pew pew? Or how much larger and open all the levels could have been instead of packed with boxes and linear corridors. Fact is controllers only have a finite amount of buttons. Why do you think they had to combine some of the actions into one button?

You guys forget how negatively ME 1 was recieved initially on the old forums. Now it's all 'ME 1 is the best and is the pinnacle of BW games'.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 10 novembre 2011 - 12:46 .

[Terror_K]

1136342t54 wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

False. Wreav didn't have a big meeting ground for the different clans. Wreav had his plan and a few ambassadors from others so he wouldn't be in a war with the others or some other reasons.

I think the complaint is that Wreav shouldn't have allowed Grunt to attempt the Rite because he was a traditionalist.  Thing is, Wreav's reasons for doing so actually were traditionalist ones: he allowed it because of who Okeer was, as opposed to Wrex, who allowed it in spite of that.

Well I didn't have much of a problem with Wreav's reasoning for letting Grunt do the rite since it wasn't totally off for a krogan.

Actually Grunt's loyalty mission being pretty much the same didn't bother me at all. It was most of the other stuff there that did.

[Jessica Merizan]

SarunasAndSoOn wrote...

ha! look at that!

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Jess! You're getting better at the Pulse thing.

Aww shucks! I'm not much of a polished "host"... I'm better at improv or just talking from the heart IMO

--

To answer the OP's question, I was a "fan" two months ago and of course I had worries and concerns. It's natural for anyone who loves something like the ME franchise to have those fears, reasonable or not. Mostly I've tried to know only what you guys know, but occassionally I get a sneak peak at things during my Edmonton visits and... Wow! 

So I know where you guys are coming from and I guess I've either been indoctrinated or the guys in Canada are truly doing some magical things

I should go,
Jess

[Epic777]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Well it's obvious they were limited by consoles. Imagine how much more content they could have packed into the uncharted worlds. Or how much more complex they could have made the combat beyond holding down one button and going pew pew? Or how much larger and open all the levels could have been instead of packed with boxes and linear corridors. Fact is controllers only have a finite amount of buttons. Why do you think they had to combine some of the actions into one button?

Do you think that was not taken into account when they made this game? This is true for the PC as well.  As an example any software for the PC will have to take into account the dominant video cards 

[SarunasAndSoOn]

Ricinator wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

They could have focused on SP in ME 1 if they didn't dumb it down for the console.

when it comes to the ME1 argument i think you are in the very small minority...

*waits for people to fly outta the woodwork*

no im saying that theyre not acting like corporate tools in the first place. the only tools in this shed are the BSN.

[1136342t54_]

Jessica Merizan wrote...

SarunasAndSoOn wrote...

ha! look at that!

fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb wrote...

Jess! You're getting better at the Pulse thing.

Aww shucks! I'm not much of a polished "host"... I'm better at improv or just talking from the heart IMO

--

To answer the OP's question, I was a "fan" two months ago and of course I had worries and concerns. It's natural for anyone who loves something like the ME franchise to have those fears, reasonable or not. Mostly I've tried to know only what you guys know, but occassionally I get a sneak peak at things during my Edmonton visits and... Wow! 

So I know where you guys are coming from and I guess I've either been indoctrinated or the guys in Canada are truly doing some magical things

I should go,
Jess

Magic is Indoctrination 

[didymos1120]

1136342t54 wrote...

Well I didn't have much of a problem with Wreav's reasoning for letting Grunt do the rite since it wasn't totally off for a krogan.

Yeah, like I said, he did it because Okeer's name was something of a byword for fear among krogan, something he respected.

[1136342t54_]

didymos1120 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Well I didn't have much of a problem with Wreav's reasoning for letting Grunt do the rite since it wasn't totally off for a krogan.

Yeah, like I said, he did it because Okeer's name was something of a byword for fear among krogan, something he respected.

Well they did sort of respect Okeer for different reasons. Wrex didn't like him but he knew Okeer had a vision and was intelligent something that was a bit more than what most Krogan had. 

[FluffyScarf]

You're comparing visuals, which can be scaled down, to gameplay content, which when scaled down, gets all the RPG-fanatics into an orgy of nerd rage?

If you have a weak video card, a simple upgrade can solve all that. You can't 'upgrade' the simplistic gameplay in ME 1.

And disliking ME 1 is hardly a minority view. You obviously weren't around when it was launched.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 10 novembre 2011 - 12:53 .

[1136342t54_]

FluffyScarf wrote...

You're comparing visuals, which can be scaled down, to gameplay content, which when scaled down, gets all the RPG-fanatics into an orgy of nerd rage?

If you have a weak video card, a simple upgrade can solve all that. You can't 'upgrade' the simplistic gameplay in ME 1.

And disliking ME 1 is hardly a minority view. You obviously weren't around when it was launched.

It seems we have gotten off topic again.