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Trying to see why everyones a downer. (possible spoilers)


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#251
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Not really. ME 1 was a downer for lots of people originally. It's just fun when they stick fingers into their ears and deny it.

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FluffyScarf wrote...

Not really. ME 1 was a downer for lots of people originally. It's just fun when they stick fingers into their ears and deny it.


It was mostly a bit of a downer for RPG players who were also shooter fans (me). I loved ME1 but seriously it was supposed to be a rather awesome mix of RPG charcteristics and good shooter mechanics that would be challenging and very good. It was fun but when I look at ME3 that looks like what ME1 gameplay should have been like. Even the stats and power evolution look far superior to ME1.

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@fluffytroll
gtfo, ME1 was amazing which in turn set up expectations of ME2 which may or may not have been accomplished. DA2, ME2 DLC (excluding LOTSB) were let downs so in turn creating this crazy environment on the forums we are in right now leading up to the release of ME3.

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FluffyScarf wrote...

You're comparing visuals, which can be scaled down, to gameplay content, which when scaled down, gets all the RPG-fanatics into an orgy of nerd rage?

If you have a weak video card, a simple upgrade can solve all that. You can't 'upgrade' the simplistic gameplay in ME 1.

And disliking ME 1 is hardly a minority view. You obviously weren't around when it was launched.


Simple upgrade? Not so fast! Can you motherboard support it? Do you have enough power? You knowhow  building a computer is,  you have to check so much, the type of CPU, your motherboard support, power supply, type of RAM etc.

Also I am confused. You are saying you don't like me1 because it was lighter of the RPG parts which in turn was caused by it being on a console?

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Pretty much. ME 2 may have been a disappointment. But ME 1 was a far greater one based on the standards of BW's previous works.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 10 novembre 2011 - 01:04 .


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The only bad thing about ME3 is that it will be the end.

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FluffyScarf wrote...

You can tell them that in 10 different languages, and they'll keep on denying it. They're the worst fans of all. No company should use them as a sounding board.


shut your cornhole.... you joined in june you are not a fan of mass effect and you are here to troll. GTFO

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FluffyScarf wrote...

Not really. ME 1 was a downer for lots of people originally. It's just fun when they stick fingers into their ears and deny it.


Why "was"? It is still. No proper s/s romance, hellloooo! 

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Ramdori wrote...

FluffyScarf wrote...

You can tell them that in 10 different languages, and they'll keep on denying it. They're the worst fans of all. No company should use them as a sounding board.


shut your cornhole.... you joined in june you are not a fan of mass effect and you are here to troll. GTFO


Says the person who joined a couple weeks ago?

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Ricinator wrote...

DA2, ME2 DLC (excluding LOTSB) were let downs...


Speak for yourself.  Hell, some people didn't even like Lair, rare as they are.  I've seen plenty say they liked some of the other DLCs more as well.

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Not according to Ricinator's narrow-minded view.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

DA2, ME2 DLC (excluding LOTSB) were let downs...


Speak for yourself.  Hell, some people didn't even like Lair, rare as they are.  I've seen plenty say they liked some of the other DLCs more as well.


sure, that is my opinion of the dlc.
But there is alot more love for that one then the other dlc.

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FluffyScarf wrote...

Not according to Ricinator's narrow-minded view.


you haven't giving any opinion other then me1 should be built around your computer, and blah blah blah i hate consoles...

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Even I think LotSB was brilliance. Best thing to come out of ME2 so far.

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Even the biggest purist of them all likes Liara's Shadow Broker Lair.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 10 novembre 2011 - 01:16 .


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Ricinator wrote...

But there is alot more love for that one then the other dlc.


Yes, but that doesn't translate into "Lots of hate for the other DLC" either. Pretty much all of them (if we're talking the story DLCs) were well-received.  The only one that really got a significant (but by no means universal) negative reaction was Arrival. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

Ricinator wrote...

But there is alot more love for that one then the other dlc.


Yes, but that doesn't translate into "Lots of hate for the other DLC" either. Pretty much all of them (if we're talking the story DLCs) were well-received.  The only one that really got a significant (but by no means universal) negative reaction was Arrival. 


i'll agree with you there

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Re: DLC

Zaeed and Kasumi were only really let down by the lack of proper conversations aboard The Normandy. Otherwise they were great.

Firewalker was weak, but free, largely let down by the vehicle itself.

Overlord was great, and only let down (again) by the Hammerhead bits (that said, some of the areas you took the vehicle through were gorgeous and brilliant, and what I'd like to see more of in vanilla ME3 if you get large, roaming sidequest planets).

LotSB was brilliance in almost every way. The only let-downs for me were not being able to properly badmouth Cerberus after the Vasir encounter, and the fact that the big reveal was... somebody we'd never even heard of before, giving it a feel akin to a bad mystery book where the guilty party is none of the suspects. Beyond that... a fantastic piece of DLC. Best thing to come out of ME2, a better story than ME2's vanilla main story and well polished, with some varied combat and well-designed levels. The car chase section was not only fun and "juuuust right" length wise, but finally made Illium feel big and gave a sense of scale to the place ME2 my itself failed to do with almost all its levels.

Arrival was okay-ish. I didn't hate it as much as most seemed to, though the jury's still out for me depending on ME3, simply because I feel it was either pretty obvious I was getting played from the start but couldn't actually control Shepard to reflect that, or it was poorly written with gaping plot-holes. It's an adequate DLC, if a little too combat focused and lacking in any meaningful choices.

Modifié par Terror_K, 10 novembre 2011 - 01:30 .


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ME 1 is my favorite of the two games, it was hardly a letdown for me. It's not Origins to DA2 type drop off, but I still prefer the first ME.

I'm split on ME2 DLC. I liked LOTSB, & Overlord. Stolen Memory was alright. The rest I could have done without.

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Aaleel wrote...

ME 1 is my favorite of the two games, it was hardly a letdown for me. It's not Origins to DA2 type drop off, but I still prefer the first ME.

I'm split on ME2 DLC. I liked LOTSB, & Overlord. Stolen Memory was alright. The rest I could have done without.


To be honest the main thing I really liked better in ME1 than ME2 was the good build up to the epic climatic final battle and the revelation at Illos that gave a Atmosphere of doom and despair if you fail. The conversation with Vigil pretty much told you how utterly screwed you were if the Reapers came. Even Sovereign itself was just great and it built up rather well.

Now ME2 build up to the Suicide mission didn't really work out to well. The loyalty missions did interfere with the build up (no matter how fun or good they were) even teh Suicide mission itself while visually gorgeus and effectively getting you hyped it basically felt more like a Big Goddamn heroes moment.

Edit: I guess at that point I didn't really feel the Collectors were that much of an enemy since you were supposed to be ready to whoop all kinds of ass, save your crew, not take casualties and kill a freaking Reaper while riding a damn explosion.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 10 novembre 2011 - 01:36 .


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Ilos was the only good thing from ME 1.

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The only thing that has me down are the ammount of downers here. I have read the spoilers and it increased my anticipation of the game not diminish it. I don't get how some people just can't realize those notes are very old. I see people mention that our choices don't matter, where praytell was that mentioned? Answer it wasn't people just don't like that some choices arent there but Bioware themselves have said past decisions will matter. I believe them. They havent let me down on ME 1 or Me 2 with the exception of Pinnacle Station. They won't let me down now.

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1136342t54 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

ME 1 is my favorite of the two games, it was hardly a letdown for me. It's not Origins to DA2 type drop off, but I still prefer the first ME.

I'm split on ME2 DLC. I liked LOTSB, & Overlord. Stolen Memory was alright. The rest I could have done without.


To be honest the main thing I really liked better in ME1 than ME2 was the good build up to the epic climatic final battle and the revelation at Illos that gave a Atmosphere of doom and despair if you fail. The conversation with Vigil pretty much told you how utterly screwed you were if the Reapers came. Even Sovereign itself was just great and it built up rather well.

Now ME2 build up to the Suicide mission didn't really work out to well. The loyalty missions did interfere with the build up (no matter how fun or good they were) even teh Suicide mission itself while visually gorgeus and effectively getting you hyped it basically felt more like a Big Goddamn heroes moment.

Edit: I guess at that point I didn't really feel the Collectors were that much of an enemy since you were supposed to be ready to whoop all kinds of ass, save your crew, not take casualties and kill a freaking Reaper while riding a damn explosion.

I disagree. I liked the ME 1 buildup but I feel ME 2 did it just as good as ME IMO.

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shep82 wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Aaleel wrote...

ME 1 is my favorite of the two games, it was hardly a letdown for me. It's not Origins to DA2 type drop off, but I still prefer the first ME.

I'm split on ME2 DLC. I liked LOTSB, & Overlord. Stolen Memory was alright. The rest I could have done without.


To be honest the main thing I really liked better in ME1 than ME2 was the good build up to the epic climatic final battle and the revelation at Illos that gave a Atmosphere of doom and despair if you fail. The conversation with Vigil pretty much told you how utterly screwed you were if the Reapers came. Even Sovereign itself was just great and it built up rather well.

Now ME2 build up to the Suicide mission didn't really work out to well. The loyalty missions did interfere with the build up (no matter how fun or good they were) even teh Suicide mission itself while visually gorgeus and effectively getting you hyped it basically felt more like a Big Goddamn heroes moment.

Edit: I guess at that point I didn't really feel the Collectors were that much of an enemy since you were supposed to be ready to whoop all kinds of ass, save your crew, not take casualties and kill a freaking Reaper while riding a damn explosion.

I disagree. I liked the ME 1 buildup but I feel ME 2 did it just as good as ME IMO.


To be honest the Loyalty missions kind of messed it up. ME2 build up was great but ME1 was a little better (not significantly so).
Edit: Seriously I was expecting a rather awesome ship to ship fight with the Collector vessel but that was a bit of a let down. Still its understandable why it had to be short.

Modifié par 1136342t54 , 10 novembre 2011 - 01:42 .


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You just discovered the biggest flaw the majority of 'gamers' have. They love jumping to conclusions. You can see it in comments section on every gaming website. Apparently, because the leak doesn't include every possible personal choice/outcome, it must mean that they won't be in the game, and it'll be a linear shooting gallery. For the sake of society, I hope they don't enter a sector that requires objective and level headed thinking.