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Who here actually likes Call of Duty?


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greengoron89 wrote...

You need to calm down, my friend. You're getting a bit too aggressive than is necessary.

At any rate, CoD being such a massive success is exactly what's wrong with it IMHO - it encourages the developers to rest on their laurels rather than keep pushing the limit with each subsequent release. No one cares if CoD isn't some art house game like Ico - people only wish for something new to be added to the somewhat formulaic gameplay, a reasonable expectation of any game series.

Also, there's no need to bust out sales figures here - this is a thread asking for peoples' personal opinions about a game, not how much the game sells. That's irrelevant to how the individuals in this thread may or may not feel, so there is nothing to prove here.

And one more thing - dick move on bashing Skyrim fans. You're the only person in the thread who's even mentioned Skyrim, so I don't see where you get off taking potshots like that during a discussion that has nothing to do with it. Turn that pointless aggression aside and stay on topic.


It's a military style fps. There's only so much you can do given the parameters of the genre. Obviously if it has gained critical regard along with humongous sales, its doing something right for both critics and regular game buyers. The same lack of innovation could be said (and has) of just about any genre. CoD has found the sweet spot that other developers would give their firstborn for. Game companies exist to make a profIit from a game/franchise and obvoiously they've done their job better than just about anyone.

Modifié par chrisuuuu, 09 novembre 2011 - 06:09 .


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Innovation for innovation's sake is silly.

If something works, and people are happy with it, there's no need to change it just to change it.

If something doesn't work, by all means try to fix it. If something could really be done better, sure, give it a go. If you are tired of doing something the same way and want to expand your horizons, more power to you.

If you like what you do, and others like it too, there's zero wrong with giving yourself and the people what you all want.

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I liked MW2 and Black Ops but i don't like to play them as i seem to get very stressed whilst playing. Unsure why.

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i like call of black ops but my game was cracked and does not save so i cold not complete the game
i like world at war too !!!

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greengoron89 wrote...

You need to calm down, my friend. You're getting a bit too aggressive than is necessary.

At any rate, CoD being such a massive success is exactly what's wrong with it IMHO - it encourages the developers to rest on their laurels rather than keep pushing the limit with each subsequent release. No one cares if CoD isn't some art house game like Ico - people only wish for something new to be added to the somewhat formulaic gameplay, a reasonable expectation of any game series.


Not only you are trying to lower the values of Call of Duty .. also you're insulting the Democracy which is accepted by the majority of people *calling 911 to arrest you!* :police:

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I liked Black Ops. It's the only COD I have played.

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I like what my Bro did with his copy of CoD 4.
His skill and insane i dont give a damn would get him like 30+ kills before the match would end and that was him not caring let alone even trying while playing his DS.the end result was him throwing his copy into the trash..Hes badass like that

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Warheadz wrote...

I liked Black Ops. It's the only COD I have played.


^Borrowed it from my cousin for a week. Really enjoyed the SP campaign and multiplayer.

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Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

You need to calm down, my friend. You're getting a bit too aggressive than is necessary.

At any rate, CoD being such a massive success is exactly what's wrong with it IMHO - it encourages the developers to rest on their laurels rather than keep pushing the limit with each subsequent release. No one cares if CoD isn't some art house game like Ico - people only wish for something new to be added to the somewhat formulaic gameplay, a reasonable expectation of any game series.


Not only you are trying to lower the values of Call of Duty .. also you're insulting the Democracy which is accepted by the majority of people *calling 911 to arrest you!* :police:


Oh boohoo the majority can get over it.

Twilight makes tons of money so it must be great :P

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chrisuuuu wrote...
It's a military style fps. There's only so much you can do given the parameters of the genre. Obviously if it has gained critical regard along with humongous sales, its doing something right for both critics and regular game buyers. The same lack of innovation could be said (and has) of just about any genre. CoD has found the sweet spot that other developers would give their firstborn for. Game companies exist to make a profIit from a game/franchise and obvoiously they've done their job better than just about anyone.


Nobody is asking CoD's developers to redefine the genre. They're just asking for something new to be thrown into the mix.

I know one thing they can do for the next CoD game to freshen it up a bit - how about a campaign mode that isn't a couple of hours long and actually has an engaging storyline? Seriously, it'd be nice to play a campaign that isn't completely and utterly phoned in for a change.

Not that I particularly care either way - I don't like military shooters to begin with. I'll take Half-Life and Halo over that stuff any day.

Modifié par greengoron89, 09 novembre 2011 - 07:55 .


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greengoron89 wrote...
Nobody is asking CoD's developers to redefine the genre. They're just asking for something new to be thrown into the mix.

I know one thing they can do for the next CoD game to freshen it up a bit - how about a campaign mode that isn't a couple of hours long and actually has an engaging storyline? Seriously, it'd be nice to play a campaign that isn't completely and utterly phoned in for a change.

Not that I particularly care either way - I don't like military shooters to begin with. I'll take Half-Life and Halo over that stuff any day.


Rather than making hese kind of demands that "COD developers should do something new! They should improve their game!", we can ask ourselves why they would do such a thing when they sell literally tens of millions of copies by putting out the same thing every year.
If the customer enjoys it, or is such a dumb **** that he buys it again and again when he doesn't enjoy it, they have no reason to change their game. It's not like they need a bigger audience.

The point I'm trying to get across through my incoherent, tired ramble is that:

People, stop
a) saying that COD ruins games. It doesn't. It is the equivalent of the Hollywood blockbuster films, and the industry needs that too. It can't all be artsy or innovative.
b)saying that Treyarch/Infinity Ward needs to change their game or improve it. Because they don't.
c) hating on COD because it's popular.

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Rather than making hese kind of demands that "COD developers should do something new! They should improve their game!", we can ask ourselves why they would do such a thing when they sell literally tens of millions of copies by putting out the same thing every year.
If the customer enjoys it, or is such a dumb **** that he buys it again and again when he doesn't enjoy it, they have no reason to change their game. It's not like they need a bigger audience.

The point I'm trying to get across through my incoherent, tired ramble is that:

People, stop
a) saying that COD ruins games. It doesn't. It is the equivalent of the Hollywood blockbuster films, and the industry needs that too. It can't all be artsy or innovative.
b)saying that Treyarch/Infinity Ward needs to change their game or improve it. Because they don't.
c) hating on COD because it's popular.


If the developers are content to lazily churn out one indistinguishable title after another, then by all means, that is their right - and it certainly doesn't cause them any shortage of income.

But that doesn't mean everyone has to like it, and it doesn't mean people should stop criticizing them for it - because they won't.

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greengoron89 wrote...
But that doesn't mean everyone has to like it, and it doesn't mean people should stop criticizing them for it - because they won't.


But why would you criticize them for doing the smart thing to do? They get huge profits with minimal innovation.

If I could sell my **** to people for 60 euros a turd, you bet your damn ass I would be ****ting as much as I can as fast as I can. I wouldn't be worried about the quality of my ****, or about the nutrients that my **** may hold. I would not put a flag on top of my pile of **** to make it look prettier, and I wouldn't dress my pile of **** in nice clothes or teach it to dance. I would dish out that same, boring brown pile of **** out at people. They love it  and I want money.

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No sir, I don't like it.

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I have to say though, while I do enjoy the COD franchise I don't really like the fans that I usually find in their forums or over the mic. Not the crowd I enjoy hanging out with.

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Warheadz wrote...
But why would you criticize them for doing the smart thing to do? They get huge profits with minimal innovation.

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You're talking about the commercial side of the equation - in that case, what the developers are doing is just good business sense.

But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the gameplay itself, which some people find formulaic and uninteresting. So how much money is involved doesn't matter in the slightest from that perspective.

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If the whole industry had that kind of mentality, we'd still be playing goldeneye clones. 


But this is different. If it ain't broke, why fix it? I'm not saying that we should discourage innovation, but CoD doesn't sell tens of millions of copies a year cause people hate it or think it's repackaged. And to the people that like to blame the marketing, you both severely underestimate people's intelligence and over estimate Activiosion's marketing skills.  But to stay on point, when the fans start complaining, then IW should drastically change the CoD formula, till then I'll just keep enjoying it. 


Why not improve the game? Is it a crime to expect the developers to deliver something better in the next installment? Can we not raise our standards?


They do improve it. But to do a complete over haul would take a lot of time. Look at BF3. They made a whole new engine and it was years between BF2 and BF3. In a market as competative as the FPS market, for CoD to dip out of the race for that long could be crippling. 


Most people aren't asking for an over haul. They're asking for improvements that aren't miniscule. 

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I hate the Treyarch CoD games, but i like the modern warfare series. Though i am dissapointed in the Modern Warfare 3 campaign, but that should be expected since all the talent was fired in the activision debacle shortly after MW2 was released. But the multiplayer is fun.

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Not Metacritic, That's for sure

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csfteeeer wrote...

Not Metacritic, That's for sure


As much as I dislike the series.  It really doesn't deserve 0s.
0 means its unplayable garbage like superman 64 sheesh.
The trend is pretty terrible at metacritic.  almost everyone gives every game either a full 10 or a 0.
Nothing ever goes in between.
It sure as hell doesn't deserve a 10 either.
But what do you expect from people who are either easily happy or judge everything on graphics or purposely score it low out of spite?

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csfteeeer wrote...

Not Metacritic, That's for sure


Now that's just silly. Call of Duty isn't some masterpiece, but it is still a decent shooter with fun multiplayer. It deserves at least a 5 or 6, not an extremely low score of 2-3.

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You know, I recently vowed to never buy another CoD game again, but I just found out that the G36C is featured in MW3. I <3 G36C!

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csfteeeer wrote...

Not Metacritic, That's for sure



Metacritic professional critic scores are excellent for Modern Warfare 3 and that's what most go for sourcing for reviews. The user reviews are probably between swayed and bombed by CoD or BF fanboys.

If you want to use Metacritic user review scores, than Square's masterpiece Xenogears with a user score of 9.7 just absolutely blows away EVERY offering from Bioware, all Elder Scroll games, the Witcher, Dark Souls, etc..

Elder Scrolls: Oblivion - 7.8 user score
www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/the-elder-scrolls-iv-oblivion
Mass Effect 2 - 8.1 user score
http://www.metacriti...3/mass-effect-2
Dragon Age 2 - 4.2 user score
http://www.metacriti...c/dragon-age-ii
Witcher - 8.5 user score
Jade Empire - 8.7
Knights of Old Republic 8.9
Dark souls - 8.9

  Gamers just like any consumer speak with their wallets.

Modifié par chrisuuuu, 10 novembre 2011 - 02:34 .


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cod gameplay is mediocre at best. i dont like it. but it sure is dressed up in a lot of razzledazzle. i think people will confuse that with the actual game and say that they like it.

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Can't believe it already sold 9.2 mil on the first day. It's the same crap dammit! How can people buy this stuff anymore.