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[Relix28]

SirBoomstick wrote...

"Blue Rose of Illium"

+1

Other than that, no. It did, however, make me feel like a god damn panzy sometimes.

[Nizzemancer]

Another_Golden_Dragon wrote...

I always viewed Paragon as more like trying to save as many as possible, and Renegade as trying to gather as much Glory for myself as possible.

Renegade - Taking the fastest easiest way possible to achieve the goal, regardless of if that means using a hand-grenade in a hostage-situation or killing a yielding enemy.
Paragon - going through hell and high water to secure as good outcome as possible for as many as possible.

[John Renegade]

What about this:

Renegade: Sacrificing a few to save many.

Paragon: Risking many to save few.

[Xilizhra]

John Renegade wrote...

What about this:

Renegade: Sacrificing a few to save many.

Paragon: Risking many to save few.

I'd say Renegade sacrifices few, or many, to either save many, or few, or possibly just move faster. The name of the game regardless is expediency.

Paragon more accurately risks many, or few, to save all.

[HiroVoid]

Renegade risks less to save most.
Paragon risks most to save all.

That alright?

Modifié par HiroVoid, 20 novembre 2011 - 09:39 .

[Yezdigerd]

Mm, not bad but it's hilarious when when parashep chastize the human looters in Mordin's loyalty mission. "looting the dead, that is pretty low". You should really get renegade points for most safes you crack.

The endorsement on the citadel seemed pretty funny too. Milking your reputation for cash is standard renegade scam, while the renegade persuasion through reason was paragon.

[Sisterofshane]

And this is the problem with having a morality system within a game -- it's always going to be someone elses ideas of morality.  That is why certain choices seem flip-flopped to people, or why a choice may make perfect sense to someone but not to the next person to come along.

As far as make me feel bad, no.  I'd have to say not one choice I've made (paragon or renegade or neutral) have ever made me feel bad.  Have I ever second-guessed myself?  Countless times, especially with the new game coming up.

I try to stick with decisions that seem to go along with my personality IRL.  It feels wrong when I make a decision with logic that isn't presented in the game along with the choice (such as killing that Eclipse Merc).  Especially when the next game comes out and I'm not given a chance within the game to defend my specific choice (which is why I HATE the saving/destroying the council decision.  I specifically picked the neutral option to avoid an emotionally charged backlash, and get it anyway.  But do I have any chance to explain why I allowed the Council to die? No.  I just get lumped in with all of the pricks who did it out of some vengeful need to watch the DA burn in space).

[Sisterofshane]

Arcian wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

Mm, not bad but it's hilarious when when parashep chastize the human looters in Mordin's loyalty mission. "looting the dead, that is pretty low". You should really get renegade points for most safes you crack.

Safes aren't dead bodies, though.

Yeah, their fault for leaving bank terminals out in the open with no defenses except for an annoying minigame.

Modifié par Sisterofshane, 21 novembre 2011 - 03:18 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Saph's back from his ban?

Crap, I was starting to have fun.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

You and I, we're like water and oil.

Look on the bright side: we get shaken up real good with a few spices and WAPOW classY SALAD DRESSING.

The BSN is my lettuce.

Wow okay no more Mountain Dew past its expiration date.

[inversevideo]

Yezdigerd wrote...

Mm, not bad but it's hilarious when when parashep chastize the human looters in Mordin's loyalty mission. "looting the dead, that is pretty low". You should really get renegade points for most safes you crack.
.

In all honesty I believe, in this issue, that  Shep is fully aware of the hypocrisy, but has the best interests of the humans left in the district at heart.

Shep is told, by the sick Batarian she encounters,after he accuses her of wanting to loot his stuff, that all the aliens  blame the humans for the plague. Shep hears the same thing from the couple she encounters, hiding in their apartement.

Shep caught the humans looting, and knows damn well that if it had been the Suns that caught them, it would have gone badly, not only for them, but for all humans in the district.   So she scares them straight. And they even admit they had not thought through their looting.

[inversevideo]

SirBoomstick wrote...

"Blue Rose of Illium"

Agreed. That did bother me a great deal.

[Yezdigerd]

The point wasn't the looters, but how casually paragon Shepard steal other people's money. What if a PDA on Horizon was the money of a family that got melted into goo by the collectors leaving a orphan to starve to death because you took their savings?
A renegade might argue that he put money to good use for the greater purpose but for a paragon this shouldn't be acceptable. If he needed money he wouldn't steal but ask the colonists to pitch in.

[AdmiralCheez]

Yezdigerd wrote...

The point wasn't the looters, but how casually paragon Shepard steal other people's money. What if a PDA on Horizon was the money of a family that got melted into goo by the collectors leaving a orphan to starve to death because you took their savings?
A renegade might argue that he put money to good use for the greater purpose but for a paragon this shouldn't be acceptable. If he needed money he wouldn't steal but ask the colonists to pitch in.

Video game logic.

GUYS THERE ARE RUPEES IN THESE VASES HOLY SH*T.

[Pharos]

inversevideo wrote...

SirBoomstick wrote...

"Blue Rose of Illium"

Agreed. That did bother me a great deal.

This used to bother me too until I realised that while the Paragon option advocates (and results in) the two staying together, Shep is not responsible for the Asari choosing to travel to Tuchunka afterwards. Its her choice.

As for the Looters in the Mordin collection mission mentioned earlier...even my paragon Sheps kill them (by picking the lower-right conv option). I'm a bit hard on looters I'm afraid...and yes, I'm aware of the difference between looting and scavenging, and don't loot funds from that mission or Horizon.

[thatguy212]

Krogan Sushi, you crush his hopes and dreams

[Sisterofshane]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Yezdigerd wrote...

The point wasn't the looters, but how casually paragon Shepard steal other people's money. What if a PDA on Horizon was the money of a family that got melted into goo by the collectors leaving a orphan to starve to death because you took their savings?

It's pretty funny when you can walk right passed a frozen colonist and steal their belongings. I imagine once they were cured they had an interesting story to tell.

I believe there is one colonist with his PDA right on his body, and you can loot it even as you are discussing with your team about how they are paralyzed but still aware.