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[Xilizhra]

How is or why should it be inevitable that rather than follow through with the premise you've created and present the consequences of a forced action, your response (biowares not yours) to this is to morph characters into exactly the same role and personality?

Because, in large part, the story has to have the same events and can't diverge that far. If they'd kept both alive, this wouldn't be a problem, of course...

But why should they be objective?

They're not. They just try to be. But fail.

In present day circumstances the closest analogy would be an american soldier suddenly appearing backed up by AL Qaeda, you think initially that soldiers actions would be objectively analysed?

Yes, but probably by other people.

[Xilizhra]

That's your choice. Canon Shepard is a male Soldier who abandoned the Council.

Canon Shepard can go **** himself.

It won't ever be problematic. By the end of ME2 VS already have a definitive advantage over Shepard regarding a career in the Alliance military/politics: political correctness/trustworthiness. History is littered with such examples, Belisarius being my favorite.

Evidently, you haven't seen what I have...

[Xilizhra]

I never romance Tali myself because it's illogical, irresponsible, and absurdly stupid.

Also completely awesome if you ignore the voice acting issues.

[alperez]

Xilizhra

The fact that the story needs to follow a certain path and can't diverge from that doesn't excuse the morphing of characters into basically one character, this in essence is what presentation is about.

They could still have the same resolution to the situation, they don't need to morph the characters into carbon copies in order to achieve this esp. in a five minute cameo. but rather than do so they instead present it badly.

As for objectivity, i'm not sure i really get where your coming from, you accept they try to be objective but fail and that someone faced with the scenario i presented regarding Al qaeda would perhaps leave it to others to be objective, so what exactly is your issue then?

I've explained why a romanced VS wouldn't be able to act objectively and why a non romanced one may not be either, so why should we expect objectivety when the situation doesn't actually allow it.

[Xilizhra]

I thought you were the one concerned about objectivity?

As for Kaidan... they erred with him. Unfortunate.

[alperez]

Xilizhra wrote...

I thought you were the one concerned about objectivity?

As for Kaidan... they erred with him. Unfortunate.

Nope. although i may have been arguing with myself, it happens, lol.

Erred seems like such a tame way to put it, i'd rephrase it only, but it may lead to being banned, so instead we'll go with erred.

[Xilizhra]

I admit they could have done better with Kaidan.

[alperez]

Xilizhra wrote...

I admit they could have done better with Kaidan.

Now say that 3 times really quickly turning round and round and clicking your ruby slippers, you never know it worked for dorothy so perhaps doing so will ensure it works for me3 (and no i don't have a drug problem, drink however is an entirely different matter lol).

[Xilizhra]

If that is true then Shepard is willing to risk Tali's life to satisfy their carnal lust. Perhaps BioWare and Talimancers could explain why Tali would desire friendship and sex with such a person. I cannot, no matter what facts I take into consideration.

Cthulhu was exaggerating. It's really not a life-threatening risk.

[Xilizhra]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

If that is true then Shepard is willing to risk Tali's life to satisfy their carnal lust. Perhaps BioWare and Talimancers could explain why Tali would desire friendship and sex with such a person. I cannot, no matter what facts I take into consideration.

Cthulhu was exaggerating. It's really not a life-threatening risk.

I agree. That's why I said "If that is true", because I don't think what he said (Tali risked her life for Shepard) is true at all.

True, though Tali risks her life for Shepard all the time anyway. However, Tali does make it past a psychological taboo that has to have been ingrained in her for her whole life to be with Shepard.

[Xilizhra]

For me, overcoming a social taboo (in case of Tali) is much less impressive than overcoming a political inconvenience (in case of VS). Social taboos have never affected me in my life, whereas political inconvenience frequently did.

Psychological, not social. It's not a social taboo to remove one's suit, it's overcoming one's natural instincts that have been honed into you for your entire life.

Yes, that's basically what I'm saying. Although I don't see how it's a massive deal. The only thing I'm certain is that she wants you to think it's a massive deal.

That's because you're not her. I'm still nervous about eating out thanks to having food allergies. This is far bigger.