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If you could, would you still be working with Cerberus?


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Hell no! After Admiral Kahoku and Toombs in the first game I didn't even want work with them in the second, but then we kinda have to... The third?! Not a chance!

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Yuoaman wrote...

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Actually I would stay with Cerberus, aside from their unethical ways of experimenting and getting things done, you have to admit that they actually get sh*t done when it comes to the human race. I mean Shepard was dead for TWO years and the Alliance had already screwed him and his team over within that period of time. Meanwhile Cerberus was spending a ridiculous amount of money to revive him and get him a new ship. Sure their true intentions weren't as clear as we would want them to be but at least because of them you were able to kill a Reaper and save millions of human lives, along with the alliance's lazy asses.


I don't know, Cerberus also decided that turning Grayson into a Reaper puppet was a good investment.

Cerberu's competency completely depends on what makes the plot more interesting at the moment.

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Yuoaman wrote...

I don't know, Cerberus also decided that turning Grayson into a Reaper puppet was a good investment.


If you know the plot of ME3 then you know...

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Yuoaman wrote...

GigaBurger wrote...

Actually I would stay with Cerberus, aside from their unethical ways of experimenting and getting things done, you have to admit that they actually get sh*t done when it comes to the human race. I mean Shepard was dead for TWO years and the Alliance had already screwed him and his team over within that period of time. Meanwhile Cerberus was spending a ridiculous amount of money to revive him and get him a new ship. Sure their true intentions weren't as clear as we would want them to be but at least because of them you were able to kill a Reaper and save millions of human lives, along with the alliance's lazy asses.


I don't know, Cerberus also decided that turning Grayson into a Reaper puppet was a good investment.

Who knows?  Maybe they learned something from the experience, Cerberus can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.  People are always complaining about how cerberus is grossly incompetent and their operation at the derelict reaper with a fiasco, but in the end it got Shepard the IFF, and I think that they may have accomplished something equally important from this.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

GigaBurger wrote...

Actually I would stay with Cerberus, aside from their unethical ways of experimenting and getting things done, you have to admit that they actually get sh*t done when it comes to the human race. I mean Shepard was dead for TWO years and the Alliance had already screwed him and his team over within that period of time. Meanwhile Cerberus was spending a ridiculous amount of money to revive him and get him a new ship. Sure their true intentions weren't as clear as we would want them to be but at least because of them you were able to kill a Reaper and save millions of human lives, along with the alliance's lazy asses.


I don't know, Cerberus also decided that turning Grayson into a Reaper puppet was a good investment.

Who knows?  Maybe they learned something from the experience, Cerberus can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.  People are always complaining about how cerberus is grossly incompetent and their operation at the derelict reaper with a fiasco, but in the end it got Shepard the IFF, and I think that they may have accomplished something equally important from this.

Or maybe you are an idiot?

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bobobo878 wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

GigaBurger wrote...

Actually I would stay with Cerberus, aside from their unethical ways of experimenting and getting things done, you have to admit that they actually get sh*t done when it comes to the human race. I mean Shepard was dead for TWO years and the Alliance had already screwed him and his team over within that period of time. Meanwhile Cerberus was spending a ridiculous amount of money to revive him and get him a new ship. Sure their true intentions weren't as clear as we would want them to be but at least because of them you were able to kill a Reaper and save millions of human lives, along with the alliance's lazy asses.


I don't know, Cerberus also decided that turning Grayson into a Reaper puppet was a good investment.

Who knows?  Maybe they learned something from the experience, Cerberus can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.  People are always complaining about how cerberus is grossly incompetent and their operation at the derelict reaper with a fiasco, but in the end it got Shepard the IFF, and I think that they may have accomplished something equally important from this.


Yep, the Illusive Man can't save his ass without breaking a few space stations and letting loose the Reaper's puppet.

Wait.

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Quole wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
Who knows?  Maybe they learned something from the experience, Cerberus can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.  People are always complaining about how cerberus is grossly incompetent and their operation at the derelict reaper with a fiasco, but in the end it got Shepard the IFF, and I think that they may have accomplished something equally important from this.

Or maybe you are an idiot?

Why'd you have to say that? Now you've gone and hurt my feelings.

Modifié par bobobo878, 11 novembre 2011 - 08:45 .


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Yuoaman wrote...

Yep, the Illusive Man can't save his ass without breaking a few space stations and letting loose the Reaper's puppet.

Wait.


Yeah, that wasn't the turians' and Anderson's fault or anything.

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Anyway, I don't see any need to kill tIM, I'm sure he's just one speech check away from redemption.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Anyway, I don't see any need to kill tIM, I'm sure he's just one speech check away from redemption.

I hope not.

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That would depend on my Shepard. Some of them would, I suspect the majority wouldn't. However I suspect that even on or two of those "more Cerberus inclined" Shepard might not

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Hell, [add whichever expletive you feel is harshest here], NO!

1. Railroaded into working with Cerberus.
2. Absolutely lame responses concerning Cerberus in conversation with Tela Vasir after defeating her.
3. Death of Kahoku who was only trying to care for his team.
4. Cerberus made integral despite minute (completely avoidable) part in ME.

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Yes, after reading the spoilers I agree completely with his goals. They'd lead to a more peaceful galaxy in the long term and would strengthen Humanity. Though I don't understand why he has to be working with them to achieve said goals.

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NO

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Yes, after reading the spoilers I agree completely with his goals. They'd lead to a more peaceful galaxy in the long term and would strengthen Humanity. Though I don't understand why he has to be working with them to achieve said goals.


There will always be problems, so if you think murder, torture and so on are necessary to solve them then you are just another problem yourself.

Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 11 novembre 2011 - 10:34 .


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Why this thread has sticky?

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Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

There will always be problems, so if you think murder, torture and so on are necessary to solve them then you are just another problem yourself.


I'd rather be the problem than having to deal with it.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 11 novembre 2011 - 10:42 .


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Then why ally why Cerberus?
Ally with the reapers instead!

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Yes, after reading the spoilers I agree completely with his goals. They'd lead to a more peaceful galaxy in the long term and would strengthen Humanity. Though I don't understand why he has to be working with them to achieve said goals.


A thousand times this! Bioware didn't think any of this crap through. It makes about as much sense as the plot of Star Wars Episode One.

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Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Then why ally why Cerberus?
Ally with the reapers instead!


The Reapers are tools.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Yes, after reading the spoilers I agree completely with his goals. They'd lead to a more peaceful galaxy in the long term and would strengthen Humanity. Though I don't understand why he has to be working with them to achieve said goals.


Peaceful galaxy? Cerberus? Ha. 

They'll declare dictatorship the nanosecond they get the chance and enslave everyone that aren't following their twisted cause.

Oh, but TIM said that he's working for a good cause. I'm sure we can just take this very trustful man's word for it, right?

It's not like they'll build concentration camps or torture chambers or anything.

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They'll declare dictatorship the nanosecond they get the chance and enslave everyone that aren't following their twisted cause.


Don't be ridiculous. What purpose would it serve to enslave the other races? Just wipe them out and be done with it.

Someone With Mass wrote...

It's not like they'll build concentration camps or torture chambers or anything.


Well they didn't until ME3 came out.

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I could never, and really disliked that the closest you could get to saying " I hate cerberus" in ME2 was a vague " I work with not for" sort of comment. I was weary of them after the first game...the books just made it that much worse...retribution just signed their death warrant.

Im not a supporter of terra firma, My own Soto-Zen philosophies make me see everything and everyone human or not as one and the same. What they have done, and how they go about doing it churns my stomach.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Well they didn't until ME3 came out.


Yeah, Project TRAPDOOR didn't exist when it was inconvenient either, right?

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Yeah, Project TRAPDOOR didn't exist when it was inconvenient either, right?


It was for a good cause. Shut up that asari matriarch didn't it?