Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Yuoaman wrote...
And I think having information from the experiment made public and having the Alliance investigating kind of mitigates any success.
Saphra Deden wrote...
Yuoaman wrote...
And I think having information from the experiment made public and having the Alliance investigating kind of mitigates any success.
How so? The Alliance can investigate all it wants. What is it going to find? Toombs already killed the other scientists (those Alliance scientists).
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
IanPolaris wrote...
If they were working for Cerberus (and they were) then they were no longer Alliance Scientists but traitors...
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
If they were working for Cerberus (and they were) then they were no longer Alliance Scientists but traitors...
Sure they were.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
IanPolaris wrote...
What part of "treason" and "working for terrorists" did you miss?
-Polaris
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
What part of "treason" and "working for terrorists" did you miss?
-Polaris
The part where at this point in time Cerberus was part of the Alliance. Therefore they weren't traitors.
Izhalezan wrote...
When does the 3 headed Reaper dog come out to play?
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
IanPolaris wrote...
The timeline I've read indicates that Cerberus wasn't part of the alliance pretty much ever.
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
The timeline I've read indicates that Cerberus wasn't part of the alliance pretty much ever.
Then you didn't read a very good time-line.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
IanPolaris wrote...
Right back at you. Read the timeline. Cerberus has been a terrorist/human radical fringe group for decades.
-Polaris
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
Right back at you. Read the timeline. Cerberus has been a terrorist/human radical fringe group for decades.
-Polaris
No, it hasn't.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
IanPolaris wrote...
Yes it has. Read the timeline from ME2. Kohoku got it wrong (or more to the point Bioware changed the story).
-Polaris
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
Yes it has. Read the timeline from ME2. Kohoku got it wrong (or more to the point Bioware changed the story).
-Polaris
No, nothing proves that Kohoku was wrong. I've also read other things that suggest Bioware didn't change the story.
Spoilers though.
Ian...go back and play ME1, listen to Kahoku's and Hackett's comments about Cerberus and it ties to the Alliance....Cerberus had been the Alliance's black Op's arm and only fairly recently went rogue...the Scientists were employee's of the Alliance working on an Alliance tied project....Hackett states this himself....Basically when Toombs and his squad were set up for the Thresher Maw attack Cerberus was still at that point very much a part of the allaince.IanPolaris wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
If they were working for Cerberus (and they were) then they were no longer Alliance Scientists but traitors...
Sure they were.
What part of "treason" and "working for terrorists" did you miss?
-Polaris
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
IanPolaris wrote...
We are given a full timeline for Cerberus in ME2 and that along with the books pretty clearly show that Cerberus has been in business AS a terror/human-survivalist group for decades. Bioware changed the story. In short, you're wrong.
-Polaris
Golden Owl wrote...
Ian...go back and play ME1, listen to Kahoku's and Hackett's comments about Cerberus and it ties to the Alliance....Cerberus had been the Alliance's black Op's arm and only fairly recently went rogue...the Scientists were employee's of the Alliance working on an Alliance tied project....Hackett states this himself....Basically when Toombs and his squad were set up for the Thresher Maw attack Cerberus was still at that point very much a part of the allaince.
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
We are given a full timeline for Cerberus in ME2 and that along with the books pretty clearly show that Cerberus has been in business AS a terror/human-survivalist group for decades. Bioware changed the story. In short, you're wrong.
-Polaris
No they didn't and no I'm not.
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
IanPolaris wrote...
Yes they did. The current Cerberus timeline (books/ME2) show that Cerberus has been in business as an independant agency for decades. So you are wrong (this was changed from ME1).
-Polaris
Well, I am currently running an ME2 game and will check the timeline out...though it's nearly midnight here, so will have to wait until my morning.IanPolaris wrote...
Saphra Deden wrote...
IanPolaris wrote...
We are given a full timeline for Cerberus in ME2 and that along with the books pretty clearly show that Cerberus has been in business AS a terror/human-survivalist group for decades. Bioware changed the story. In short, you're wrong.
-Polaris
No they didn't and no I'm not.
Yes they did. The current Cerberus timeline (books/ME2) show that Cerberus has been in business as an independant agency for decades. So you are wrong (this was changed from ME1).
-Polaris
Guest_Saphra Deden_*
Book marked it...will read it tomorrow...thanks.IanPolaris wrote...
Read it here:
http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Cerberus
It's very clear that Cerberus was influencing the Alliance but was seperate from it for decades. Yes, this is a lore change from ME1 but is reflected in the current lore (books and games both).
-Polaris
Saphra Deden wrote...
No it is not clear. That is your interpretation (and likely assumption). Nothing confirms that Cerberus was always independent.
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