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[Costin_Razvan]

IanPolaris wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

No it is not clear. That is your interpretation (and likely assumption). Nothing confirms that Cerberus was always independent.

Sorry but it is very clear.  Cerberus is independant of the Alliance and has been for decades although it's tendrils grow deep in the Alliance miltitary-industrial infrastructure. 

Sorry but you're wrong and you have been wrong for a couple of years now.

-Polaris

Not like Bioware didn't retconn anything in regards to Cerberus right? I personally think they did just that.

Not sure why you say they are a terror group however, I haven't kept with the thread, but what makes you think that? ( Except that the Alliance and Council label it as such, but what some gov labels it as doesn't make it true example: Hamas/Hezbollah )

[Killjoy Cutter]

Bad King wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Christ. For the nth time: the creepers were Exo-Geni, not Cerberus. They just bought a couple to study, which you see locked up behind a barrier when looking for Kahoku.

Oh, yes, Cerberus certainly had nothing to do with any of the creeper accidents... [/sarcasm]

All you've got is suspicion (and sarcasm), not evidence.  It's an Exo-Geni outpost. The scientist you find there is an Exo-Geni employee. And you find no logs or anything like that indicatng Cerberus was ever there.  Also, Shep (even if inadvertently) caused them to run amok by killing the Thorian.  Before that, they were docile. 

I'm fairly certain that there's evidence of a link between the creepers and Cerberus in at least one case.  Which is why I want to go wiki-digging tonight or Saturday, whenever I get time.

As for "They were docile until Shep killed the Thorian", it's just proof that the scientists didn't really understand the creepers well enough to have allow them to roam about uncontained.  Just more sloppy work by researchers in the ME1 universe. 

Check my post above. There is no evidence of a link between the Nodacrux ExoGeni team (who worked on the creepers) and Cerberus.

In response to your above post, the Matano system was where a colony was turned into husks.

So despite the journal entry you linked to that connects multiple members of the  Nodacrux team to Cerberus, and indicates that samples of the work on Nodacrux are sent to the same place where Cerberus turned a colonly into husks, there's no link between Nodacrux and Cerberus? 

Hmm, you have a very high threshold for what constitutes a "evidence of a link".

[xCirdanx]

I would, i made a new char in ME2 just to play pro Cerberus as much as possible, you know to get the most out of it in ME3. I´m curious how that could work out.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Why is this stickied?

Why do people keep spamming that meaningless question?

How about you do something about that attitude of yours?

That's a laugh coming from you.

You need to learn your place, son.

[Fixers0]

No, i'm Never worked and Never will work for Terrorists and My Loyalty will Always remain with the System's Alliance Marines.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Why is this stickied?

Why do people keep spamming that meaningless question?

How about you do something about that attitude of yours?

That's a laugh coming from you.

You need to learn your place, son.

LoL.  Trolling Kaiser is trolling.  Have fun with that, under your bridge. 

EDIT:  Went and found the block function, we'll see how well it works.  I'm sure he'll have something childish to say about that... oh well.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 11 novembre 2011 - 10:03 .

[Bad King]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Christ. For the nth time: the creepers were Exo-Geni, not Cerberus. They just bought a couple to study, which you see locked up behind a barrier when looking for Kahoku.

Oh, yes, Cerberus certainly had nothing to do with any of the creeper accidents... [/sarcasm]

All you've got is suspicion (and sarcasm), not evidence.  It's an Exo-Geni outpost. The scientist you find there is an Exo-Geni employee. And you find no logs or anything like that indicatng Cerberus was ever there.  Also, Shep (even if inadvertently) caused them to run amok by killing the Thorian.  Before that, they were docile. 

I'm fairly certain that there's evidence of a link between the creepers and Cerberus in at least one case.  Which is why I want to go wiki-digging tonight or Saturday, whenever I get time.

As for "They were docile until Shep killed the Thorian", it's just proof that the scientists didn't really understand the creepers well enough to have allow them to roam about uncontained.  Just more sloppy work by researchers in the ME1 universe. 

Check my post above. There is no evidence of a link between the Nodacrux ExoGeni team (who worked on the creepers) and Cerberus.

In response to your above post, the Matano system was where a colony was turned into husks.

So despite the journal entry you linked to that connects multiple members of the  Nodacrux team to Cerberus, and indicates that samples of the work on Nodacrux are sent to the same place where Cerberus turned a colonly into husks, there's no link between Nodacrux and Cerberus? 

Hmm, you have a very high threshold for what constitutes a "evidence of a link".

Um... what? The log entry that mentions Cerberus is found on Feros not on Nodacrux- and that's the only thing found in-game that links ExoGeni to Cerberus. Nothing on Nodacrux implies that Cerberus were involved in that particular experiment in any way.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Bad King wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Bad King wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Christ. For the nth time: the creepers were Exo-Geni, not Cerberus. They just bought a couple to study, which you see locked up behind a barrier when looking for Kahoku.

Oh, yes, Cerberus certainly had nothing to do with any of the creeper accidents... [/sarcasm]

All you've got is suspicion (and sarcasm), not evidence.  It's an Exo-Geni outpost. The scientist you find there is an Exo-Geni employee. And you find no logs or anything like that indicatng Cerberus was ever there.  Also, Shep (even if inadvertently) caused them to run amok by killing the Thorian.  Before that, they were docile. 

I'm fairly certain that there's evidence of a link between the creepers and Cerberus in at least one case.  Which is why I want to go wiki-digging tonight or Saturday, whenever I get time.

As for "They were docile until Shep killed the Thorian", it's just proof that the scientists didn't really understand the creepers well enough to have allow them to roam about uncontained.  Just more sloppy work by researchers in the ME1 universe. 

Check my post above. There is no evidence of a link between the Nodacrux ExoGeni team (who worked on the creepers) and Cerberus.

In response to your above post, the Matano system was where a colony was turned into husks.

So despite the journal entry you linked to that connects multiple members of the  Nodacrux team to Cerberus, and indicates that samples of the work on Nodacrux are sent to the same place where Cerberus turned a colonly into husks, there's no link between Nodacrux and Cerberus? 

Hmm, you have a very high threshold for what constitutes a "evidence of a link".

Um... what? The log entry that mentions Cerberus is found on Feros not on Nodacrux- and that's the only thing found in-game that links ExoGeni to Cerberus. Nothing on Nodacrux implies that Cerberus were involved in that particular experiment in any way.

I thought you meant that the linked journal entry was for Nodacrux, sorry.  Like I said, no wiki access at work without a little bypassing, etc.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Yeah, the journal just must be faulty if it links something sloppy and stupid to Cerberus...

[sponge56]

Saphra Deden wrote...

There are no journal entries linking Nodacrux to Cerberus at all. The journal entry links Cerberus to Chasca, where the husks killed everyone. The journal says Cerberus paid well for several specimens, that's it. The reason it gets confusing is that when you complete the Chasca quest the journal for some reason says "Cerberus has a lot to answer for here". I'm thinking someone writing the quest got a little confused or something was changed.

However there is no indication Cerberus did anything to Chasca or was involved other than swinging by to pick up some specimens.

Really?

If there willing to test out what a thresher maw will do to a platoon of marines, why wouldnt they huskify a small colony?  classic Cerberus

Modifié par sponge56, 11 novembre 2011 - 10:42 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Why is this stickied?

Why do people keep spamming that meaningless question?

How about you do something about that attitude of yours?

That's a laugh coming from you.

You need to learn your place, son.

LoL.  Trolling Kaiser is trolling.  Have fun with that, under your bridge. 

EDIT:  Went and found the block function, we'll see how well it works.  I'm sure he'll have something childish to say about that... oh well.

I ask a normal question, you act like an ass and I'm the troll? Oh please, and your use of internet slang (from that site, no less) doesn't exactly add to your credibility.

Oh well, that's one entitled fool less to deal with. You have fun with your delusion of Origin being "spyware" and all that.

[John Renegade]

sponge56 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

There are no journal entries linking Nodacrux to Cerberus at all. The journal entry links Cerberus to Chasca, where the husks killed everyone. The journal says Cerberus paid well for several specimens, that's it. The reason it gets confusing is that when you complete the Chasca quest the journal for some reason says "Cerberus has a lot to answer for here". I'm thinking someone writing the quest got a little confused or something was changed.

However there is no indication Cerberus did anything to Chasca or was involved other than swinging by to pick up some specimens.

Really?

If there willing to test out what a thresher maw will do to a platoon of marines, why wouldnt they huskify a small colony?  classic Cerberus

Does presumption of innocence tell you anything? You either find me a viable proof, that Cerberus experimented with creepers or you must presume that they didn't do it.

Modifié par John Renegade, 11 novembre 2011 - 10:55 .

[Someone With Mass]

John Renegade wrote...
Does presumption of innocence tell you anything? You either find me a viable proof, that Cerberus experimented with creepers or you must presume that they didn't do it.

Tali and Garrus tells you about it in ME2.

[John Renegade]

Someone With Mass wrote...

John Renegade wrote...
Does presumption of innocence tell you anything? You either find me a viable proof, that Cerberus experimented with creepers or you must presume that they didn't do it.

Tali and Garrus tells you about it in ME2.

About the husks, sure. Unles they provide me proof about the creepers however, they can say whatever they want. It won't make them right.

Modifié par John Renegade, 11 novembre 2011 - 11:28 .

[Someone With Mass]

John Renegade wrote...
About the husks, sure. Unles they provide me proof about the creepers however, they can say whatever they want. It won't make them right.

Right, because that's convenient for you.

You know what, I can pull that card too.

I have yet to see anything good coming from Cerberus that have significantly changed humanity's place in the galaxy and I won't accept Timmy's word for it.

[John Renegade]

Saphra Deden wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

About the husks, sure. Unles they provide me proof about the creepers however, they can say whatever they want. It won't make them right.

Goddamn. If you are going to defend Cerberus GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

FYI: we know they experimented on creepers because we see creepers in the Cerberus bases on Binthu. However there is otherwise no evidence that they had anything to do with Nodacrux or Feros.

Oops, sorry, I was actually refering to the Nodacrux base. This I have for not sleeping for three days straight.
By husks I meant Chasca colony and by creepers Nodacrux.

Modifié par John Renegade, 11 novembre 2011 - 11:46 .

[BlueMagitek]

Some of my Shepards would. I wouldn't want to destroy them though.

[Golden Owl]

Saphra Deden wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

About the husks, sure. Unles they provide me proof about the creepers however, they can say whatever they want. It won't make them right.

Goddamn. If you are going to defend Cerberus GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

FYI: we know they experimented on creepers because we see creepers in the Cerberus bases on Binthu. However there is otherwise no evidence that they had anything to do with Nodacrux or Feros.

Cerberus aquired the Creepers from Exo-Geni.