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[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

What about EDI, the SR2, the Lazarus Project, the Reaper IFF, and the whole Collector operation? Those didn't help at all?

Right. Because all that weighs up to everything bad they've done.

Especially in ME3.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

What about EDI, the SR2, the Lazarus Project, the Reaper IFF, and the whole Collector operation? Those didn't help at all?

Right. Because all that weighs up to everything bad they've done.

Especially in ME3.

Those are just there to railroad the player into working against them, and even then not everything they do in ME3 is so "bad".

[Someone With Mass]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Those are just there to railroad the player into working against them, and even then not everything they do in ME3 is so "bad".

Except when they're doing things like *spoiler*assassinating Councilors, kidnapping children from the Academy around Elysiums orbit, declaring curfew on the Citadel and detonating WMDs on planets where Shepard's allies are located*spoiler*, of course.

Then again, that just shows that you are so much in denial, it's pretty funny to watch.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Those are just there to railroad the player into working against them, and even then not everything they do in ME3 is so "bad".

Except when they're doing things like *spoiler*snip*spoiler*, of course.

Then again, that just shows that you are so much in denial, it's pretty funny to watch.

That latter one, while right up there with what a comic book villain would do, still has a motivation behind it that the player can somewhat agree with in the previous games. The one before that really is TOTALLY ABSURD in a time of war, as for the first one, that's just politics.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 12 novembre 2011 - 12:13 .

[Volus Warlord]

Yawn. I think it's funny how hard Bioware tries to discredit Cerberus.

[Volus Warlord]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yawn. I think it's funny how hard Bioware tries to discredit Cerberus.

They really go overboard in ME3.

Bioware or Cerberus?

Is is the same old "it's ugly, so it's evil" bull**** like Overlord?

[Golden Owl]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yawn. I think it's funny how hard Bioware tries to discredit Cerberus.

They really go overboard in ME3.

Bioware or Cerberus?

Is is the same old "it's ugly, so it's evil" bull**** like Overlord?

Clarify please?...

[Volus Warlord]

Golden Owl wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yawn. I think it's funny how hard Bioware tries to discredit Cerberus.

They really go overboard in ME3.

Bioware or Cerberus?

Is is the same old "it's ugly, so it's evil" bull**** like Overlord?

Clarify please?...

To make Cerberus look as evil as possible, they had a pic of this dude hooked up to a machine at the end of Overlord that looked atrocious. It's ugly, so it's wrong. No other rationale to call what Cerberus did in Overlord "wrong" other than the end results weren't aesthetically pleasing.

[Volus Warlord]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Bioware or Cerberus?

Is is the same old "it's ugly, so it's evil" bull**** like Overlord?

Well... both. However Cerberus going overboard is of-course because of Bioware. I mean it actually does get bit funny and melodramatic at one point.

Wow. So the end of Cerberus will be a borderline laughingstock. There goes my favorite organization in the ME universe. No blaze of glory, nothing? Just an emo joke?

Cmon.

[Golden Owl]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Yawn. I think it's funny how hard Bioware tries to discredit Cerberus.

They really go overboard in ME3.

Bioware or Cerberus?

Is is the same old "it's ugly, so it's evil" bull**** like Overlord?

Clarify please?...

To make Cerberus look as evil as possible, they had a pic of this dude hooked up to a machine at the end of Overlord that looked atrocious. It's ugly, so it's wrong. No other rationale to call what Cerberus did in Overlord "wrong" other than the end results weren't aesthetically pleasing.

David being strung up like that is definitely very confronting...as to his actual comfort or lack there of, I concede it remains speculation on the behalf of the player....Though his constant "Quiet. please make it stop" does make it clear that he is at the very least in mental or emotional trauma.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 12 novembre 2011 - 12:49 .

[Volus Warlord]

Golden Owl wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...


To make Cerberus look as evil as possible, they had a pic of this dude hooked up to a machine at the end of Overlord that looked atrocious. It's ugly, so it's wrong. No other rationale to call what Cerberus did in Overlord "wrong" other than the end results weren't aesthetically pleasing.

David being strung up like that is definitely very confronting...as to his actual comfort or lack there of, I concede it remains speculation on the behalf of the player....Though his constant "Quiet. please make it stop" does make it clear that he is at the very least in mental or emotional trauma.

Hm. First off, the was he was strung up was enitrely unnecessary. They could've had him in a hospital bed for the same purpose. But it had to look ugly. It had to look wrong. So strap him up sideways. lol.

As per mental trauma.. eh, it happens. 3/4s of your squad is mentally traumatized in one way or another and you are free to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to it and have it be A-OK:D. Why's this any different?

[sponge56]

Volus Warlord wrote...


Hm. First off, the was he was strung up was enitrely unnecessary. They could've had him in a hospital bed for the same purpose. But it had to look ugly. It had to look wrong. So strap him up sideways. lol.

As per mental trauma.. eh, it happens. 3/4s of your squad is mentally traumatized in one way or another and you are free to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to it and have it be A-OK:D. Why's this any different?

How about I do the same thing to one of your relatives and then you can come back to me and say the whole overlord project was 'fine'

[Golden Owl]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...


To make Cerberus look as evil as possible, they had a pic of this dude hooked up to a machine at the end of Overlord that looked atrocious. It's ugly, so it's wrong. No other rationale to call what Cerberus did in Overlord "wrong" other than the end results weren't aesthetically pleasing.

David being strung up like that is definitely very confronting...as to his actual comfort or lack there of, I concede it remains speculation on the behalf of the player....Though his constant "Quiet. please make it stop" does make it clear that he is at the very least in mental or emotional trauma.

Hm. First off, the was he was strung up was enitrely unnecessary. They could've had him in a hospital bed for the same purpose. But it had to look ugly. It had to look wrong. So strap him up sideways. lol.

As per mental trauma.. eh, it happens. 3/4s of your squad is mentally traumatized in one way or another and you are free to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to it and have it be A-OK:D. Why's this any different?

The squad have the freedom, ability and mostly (well supposed to have) the mental clarity to sort their own issues and problems out...David doesn't...David is subjected to it, he has no say or choices....An elite squad have the capacity to sort themselves out.

[Volus Warlord]

sponge56 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...


Hm. First off, the was he was strung up was enitrely unnecessary. They could've had him in a hospital bed for the same purpose. But it had to look ugly. It had to look wrong. So strap him up sideways. lol.

As per mental trauma.. eh, it happens. 3/4s of your squad is mentally traumatized in one way or another and you are free to turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to it and have it be A-OK:D. Why's this any different?

How about I do the same thing to one of your relatives and then you can come back to me and say the whole overlord project was 'fine'

Yawn. You let your emotion and idealism blind you.

[Volus Warlord]

Golden Owl wrote...
The squad have the freedom, ability and mostly (well supposed to have) the mental clarity to sort their own issues and problems out...David doesn't...David is subjected to it, he has no say or choices....An elite squad have the capacity to sort themselves out.

Freedom? No, not quite. They have the freedom to do what you tell them to do until they die or you dismiss them. Many only joined you because they either had no better options or no other options. And all the drama and infighting shows they certainly do not "sort themselves out."

[Golden Owl]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...
The squad have the freedom, ability and mostly (well supposed to have) the mental clarity to sort their own issues and problems out...David doesn't...David is subjected to it, he has no say or choices....An elite squad have the capacity to sort themselves out.

Freedom? No, not quite. They have the freedom to do what you tell them to do until they die or you dismiss them. Many only joined you because they either had no better options or no other options. And all the drama and infighting shows they certainly do not "sort themselves out."

Their on Sheps squad for how greater slice of their lives? Their existance and issues don't start and end with the time they spend with Shep and none of them are forced into Sheps service, they all join of their own free will...even Grunt is recruited, not forced....As for their drama and infighting, why I wrote ...(well supposed to have)...once again that is a free choice they themselves make, immature prats does not make for inability to deal with their own issues...David on the other hand has no say what so ever or choice in what happens to him....David is a true victim...the squad self inflict their own choices.

[sponge56]

Volus Warlord wrote...


Yawn. You let your emotion and idealism blind you.

funnily enough, thats usually how life works

[Volus Warlord]

Haha. Pretty naive view of things.

Jack's choice was to join the squad or die on Purgatory.
Grunt's choice was to join or get vented.
Garrus's choice was to join or get overrun on Omega.
Tali's choice was to join or starve out in a bunker.

Indeed, tough choices to make.